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MissMaam wrote:

Adolesece who use ANYTHING are far more likely to exhibit these behaviors, as their bodies and brains are not fully developed.
It has been proven, that any drug, or alcohol,(NOT JUST POT)can throw off the chemical balance in a teen, and cause these types of behaviors.

Mongo Lloyd wrote:

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Hey Watcher!
Hey all good non-drug people!
Never fear. Mongo is HERE!
That's right.... I am still here.
I will be back online soon. I am working on a MARIJUANA TRUTH site, which is coming along wonderfully. It should be posted in a few weeks. Once posted, I will be back here daily to battle with the minions of evil; the dope peddlers of Mendocino.
Keep your chins up, good people.
They are arresting these rats faster than they can prosecute them. Just check the booking logs, and laugh.
I do!
Nite for now!

Humboldt Thug wrote:

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Where has this been proven? You can't just say something has been proven and expect people to agree with you. It has been asserted that adolescent alcohol intake affects the prefrontal cortex, limbic system, and white matter myelin... but not proven.
There are studies that show that the rat brain doesn't do so well after adolescent exposure to nicotine such as "Long-Lasting Cognitive Deficits Resulting from Adolescent Nicotine Exposure in Rats"
DS Counotte, S Spijker, LH Van de Burgwal, ANM …- Neuropsychopharmacology, 2008.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18580873
I would say that yet another reason that children shouldn't be smoking cigarettes is nicotine can cause a long-term cognitive deficiency.
The difference between research like this and research on cannabis is the government attempts to spin the research on cannabis to match their own agenda.
Compare the discussion of "Differential effects of delta9-THC on learning in adolescent and adult rats"
http://www.drugabuse.gov/DirReports/DirRep906...
With the abstract of the actual study:
http://cat.inist.fr/...
Notice that the government propaganda cites the important evidence as being that "adolescence is a period of heightened sensitivity to the neurobehavioral effects of THC." They fail to mention the next two sentences "However, there were no long-lasting significant effects on either spatial or non-spatial learning in rats that had been previously exposed to THC for 21 days. This developmental sensitivity is analogous to the effects of ethanol, another commonly used recreational drug."
That is, "no long-lasting significant effects" from 5.0 mg / kg of 2.5 mg / kg of THC for several days in a row. To put this is human terms, one must realize how much 5.0 mg / kg is in terms of human numbers. If the average human adolescent weighs ~50kg, the human equivalent of the rat dose would be 250 mg of pure THC. Considering that high quality THC delivers at most 1 mg per inhalation, the rat dose in human terms is around 250 "bong hits."
Habitual cannabis users can take some knowledge away from this study. Do not smoke 250 times for five days straight of you may not be able to make it through the corn maze on Halloween.
This doesn't suggest any long-term brain chemistry imbalance as you suggest has been "proven."

MissMaam wrote:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.co m/articles/111796.php
This seems to be good info, you may want to check it out. It is pertaining to the response from Humboldt thug. It has to do with brain damage and chemical imbalance in heavy drinkers.

Humboldt Thug wrote:

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Says nothing about adolescent alcohol use leading to brain chemistry imbalance.
Adolescent rats exposed to alcohol do not have higher adult habituation rates than rats who are not exposed
http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S...
Adolescent ethanol "peer pressure" among rats (perhaps this precisely explains human peer pressure?)
http://www.springerlink.com/content/110l7560r...
I have still not read any study that attributes casual or moderate alcohol use with any long-term health problems for adults or adolescents. Binge drinking and alcoholism are very different in this regard as those are more toxic practices. I've read that mere casual use of some inhalants (i.e. butane, toluene, gasoline) can cause long-term health problems.
The peer pressure among rats is quite enlightening if one considers humans to have basic mammalian instincts beyond their control. That is, human children who see other kids eating candy and fast food will consider those things part of a regular diet. The same goes for alcohol and the same goes for cannabis.
Good information about the insulin. I've thought about alcohol-induced dementia being diabetes of the brain given that so many alcoholics suffer from adult-onset diabetes.

MissMaam wrote:

If someone is wasted enough to get in a wreck, or give themselves brain damage then I am not sure if that is actually considered casual or moderate usage. And if there is a possibility of brain damage in adults, then I believe it to be true for kids as well. I as well as many others are sure that a lot of kids these days way over do it. Including booze. Not all are responsible, and I have met quite a few who now have permanent brain damage from drugs and alcohol. They are riddled with all kinds of different symptoms. I'm not trying to argue with you, just saying that it IS possible, and it HAS happened.

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Mendo Local wrote:

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