Sides being chosen over marijuana initiative

reality checker wrote:

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tghe federal gov't will NOT allow any studies about the benefits of cannabis, only the negative side. So, if you are not allowed to stuty the beneficial side of an issue, where would you find the reports about the beneficial side?

Like I said-ask the FDA. Until it changes, its illegal! LMAO!

saundra richards wrote:

I usually respond to your snitch on your neighbor posts with a cut and paste of my own, but to keep it real I am a personal use advocate. I am not some **** who gets kids high or thinks its ok for them to smoke, but I am quite allright making my own decisions.
Do you speak for all yes on b people? at least one of them denies any medical benefits of MJ

Then we have some common ground. Look, I am basically a Libertarian and a live and let live type of guy. If you want to grow a couple plants, big deal. But where I draw the line is growing more than you, the adult, actually use. That inevitably is sold (money laundering) and makes its way to our youth. And THAT is completely uncool.

The problem is that the commercial growers (or growers growing more than they personally use) are using "medical marijuana" as a sham to make big tax free money. That is why Prop B is necessary: too many out of county idiots are coming here to break the law. It has degraded the county big time in the last few years. For those of you around a decade or more, you know that is the truth.

Read 'em and WEEP, druggies........

F.D.A. Dismisses Medical Benefit From Marijuana

By GARDINER HARRIS

WASHINGTON, April 20 — The Food and Drug Administration said Thursday that "no sound scientific studies" supported the medical use of marijuana, contradicting a 1999 review by a panel of highly regarded scientists.

The announcement inserts the health agency into yet another fierce political fight.

Susan Bro, an agency spokeswoman, said Thursday's statement resulted from a past combined review by federal drug enforcement, regulatory and research agencies that concluded "smoked marijuana has no currently accepted or proven medical use in the United States and is not an approved medical treatment."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/21/health/21ma...

Here is more bad news for you druggies out there:

Inter-Agency Advisory Regarding Claims That Smoked Marijuana Is a Medicine

Claims have been advanced asserting smoked marijuana has a value in treating various medical conditions. Some have argued that herbal marijuana is a safe and effective medication and that it should be made available to people who suffer from a number of ailments upon a doctor's recommendation, even though it is not an approved drug.

Marijuana is listed in schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act (CSA), the most restrictive schedule. The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), which administers the CSA, continues to support that placement and FDA concurred because marijuana met the three criteria for placement in Schedule I under 21 U.S.C. 812(b)(1)(e.g., marijuana has a high potential for abuse, has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States, and has a lack of accepted safety for use under medical supervision). Furthermore, there is currently sound evidence that smoked marijuana is harmful. A past evaluation by several Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) agencies, including the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) and National Institute for Drug Abuse (NIDA), concluded that no sound scientific studies supported medical use of marijuana for treatment in the United States, and no animal or human data supported the safety or efficacy of marijuana for general medical use. There are alternative FDA-approved medications in existence for treatment of many of the proposed uses of smoked marijuana.

http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/news/2006/new01...

Well, the Sheriff now supports Measure B. Remember the tune folks, "I'm breakin rocks, in the - HOT SUN - I fought the law, and the LAW WON... More than six plants and you go to the hoosegow to meet Bubba your new "special" friend. For you stoners, that's all your fingers on one hand, plus one more. And they better not be big plants, either.

A yes vote on measure BS takes away personal use from the people of Mendocino county and does nothing to help get rid of these big grows.
Measure B is BS!

NO ON B!!!!!!!!

A Mendo voice wrote:

A yes vote on measure BS takes away personal use from the people of Mendocino county and does nothing to help get rid of these big grows.
Measure B is BS!
NO ON B!!!!!!!!

"Breakin' rocks in the - HOT SUN -..." Jeez, I just can't get that tune out of my head. Time to round up all the freaks, Tom!

A Mendo voice wrote:

A yes vote on measure BS takes away personal use from the people of Mendocino county and does nothing to help get rid of these big grows.
Measure B is BS!
NO ON B!!!!!!!!

EXACTLY! Remove PERSONAL USE and leave real, honest to goodness medicinal MJ the he'll alone!

James M Kinder wrote:

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"Breakin' rocks in the - HOT SUN -..." Jeez, I just can't get that tune out of my head. Time to round up all the freaks, Tom!

Your HEAD is a rock in the hot sun, you blithering idiot!

YOUR song should be 'another banana in paradise'

lose lose situation wrote:

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Your HEAD is a rock in the hot sun, you blithering idiot!
YOUR song should be 'another banana in paradise'

Smoke another bong hit, idiot. I make $500.00 an hour on my thought alone.... Hope Bubba has a "big" surprise for you when you hit your cell...

James M Kinder wrote:

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Smoke another bong hit, idiot. I make $500.00 an hour on my thought alone.... Hope Bubba has a "big" surprise for you when you hit your cell...

Is THAT why you don't use it here?

I thought you were thick.

Now, I see, you're just cheap.

Ddc

It sounds like your starting to mumble nonsensically. You're probably stoned.

You say you want proof that pot is in our schools? Just ask any of the ever-increasing number of educators that are showing their concern for the kids by joining the "Yes on B" campaign.

TO ALL THOSE WHO ARE READING THIS AND AREN'T INVOLVED WITH MARIJUANA!

Please take note of the responce the Yes on B people get from the large and small commercial pot growers when we express our concern for the kids and public safety.

to all the voters on this issue, watcher has not been above generalizations and exaggerations. NOT everyone voting no on b is unconcerned about all of our kids as you may be led to believe....if you want to vote yes on b, I respect your decision as my neighbor. I am pleased to be a part of a community that loves its children, and am worried about public safety as much as the next person. I do not agree with the yes on b standpoint...this does not make me some drug hazed idiot with no cares, it just shows I have a different belief of the correct approach with regards to marijuana. And just because someone responds to your posts, doesn't make them a grower! OK i admit I grow,... lettuce, beans, and kitchen herbs!

writch wrote:

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Is THAT why you don't use it here?
I thought you were thick.
Now, I see, you're just cheap.

Coming from someone who claims "Pot is a gift from God," that is "high" praise indeed. Quit hitting the bong so hard and sober up.

James M Kinder wrote:

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Smoke another bong hit, idiot. I make $500.00 an hour on my thought alone.... Hope Bubba has a "big" surprise for you when you hit your cell...

$500 per hour for your "thoughts?" with the unemployment rate rising, can you tell us where to get that job? It seems to pay more than you claim trimmers make, and with all these high school kids wanting to trim instead of work, they could make much more money just by thinking. Have you gone to "career day" at any local schools and spoken up about your career? It would be very useful to todays student.

reality checker wrote:

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$500 per hour for your "thoughts?" with the unemployment rate rising, can you tell us where to get that job? It seems to pay more than you claim trimmers make, and with all these high school kids wanting to trim instead of work, they could make much more money just by thinking. Have you gone to "career day" at any local schools and spoken up about your career? It would be very useful to todays student.

Only if you wanted your kid to grow up a crooked scammer. This is public and online...the name and address match.....

Kinder v. Bankfirst
Plaintiff: James M Kinder,-
Defendant: Bankfirst and DOES
Case Number: 3:2007cv00877
Filed: May 15, 2007
Court: California Southern District Court
Office: San Diego Office [ Court Info ]
County: San Diego
Presiding Judge: Judge Dana M. Sabraw
Referring Judge: Magistrate Judge Louisa S Porter
Nature of Suit: Torts - Injury - Other Personal Injury
Cause: 28:1332 Diversity-Petition for Removal
Jurisdiction: Diversity
Jury Demanded By: None
----------

Kinder v. Astra Business Services Inc
Plaintiff: James M Kinder,-
Defendant: Astra Business Services Inc

Case Number: 3:2007cv02091
Filed: October 31, 2007

Court: California Southern District Court
Office: San Diego Office [ Court Info ]
County: San Diego
Presiding Judge: Judge Marilyn L. Huff
Referring Judge: Magistrate Judge Jan M. Adler

Nature of Suit: Other Statutes - Other Statutory Actions
Cause: 28:1441 Petition for Removal
Jurisdiction: Federal Question
Jury Demanded By: Defendant
----------

DONA LOSHONKOHL, Plaintiff and Respondent, v. JAMES M.
KINDER, Defendant and Appellant.

D039267

COURT OF APPEAL OF CALIFORNIA, FOURTH APPELLATE DISTRICT,
DIVISION ONE

109 Cal. App. 4th 510; 135 Cal. Rptr. 2d 114; 2003 Cal.
App. LEXIS 830; 31 Media L. Rep. 1855; 2003 Cal. Daily Op.
Service 4805; 2003 Daily Journal DAR 6056

June 6, 2003, Filed

PRIOR HISTORY: APPEAL from a judgment of the Superior Court of San Diego County,
William J. Howatt, Jr., Judge. Super. Ct. No. EC018809.

OPINION:

The issue presented in this case is whether Civil Code
section 47.5 (undesignated section references are to this code) is
unconstitutional under the First Amendment as improper content-based
discrimination. We answer this question in the negative and affirm.

FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND

Appellant failed to designate a reporter's transcript of the trial; thus, our
factual summary derives from the trial court's statement of decision.

Dona Loshonkohl, a veteran police officer with the City of San Diego Police
Department (SDPD), was responsible for establishing good community
relations as part of the SDPD's "Community Oriented Policing" program. Part of
this program, called the "Problem Oriented Policy" (POP) program, focused on
designing solutions to alleviate specific problems within a community.

James M. Kinder operates a car rental business, and several other businesses,
from a location on India Street in San Diego. After a confrontation with Kinder
on August 14, 1998, Loshonkohl obtained approval for a POP project to deal with
problems near Kinder's businesses, including problems with abandoned
vehicles, parking, creating a neighborhood eyesore and code violations. The POP
project focused on Kinder's businesses and at least six other businesses in the
area. During the course of the POP project, Kinder aggressively confronted
Loshonkohl on a number of occasions and by the project's conclusion, officers
impounded and towed a total of 41 vehicles, 16 of which belonged to Kinder.

reality checker wrote:

<quoted text>
$500 per hour for your "thoughts?" with the unemployment rate rising, can you tell us where to get that job? It seems to pay more than you claim trimmers make, and with all these high school kids wanting to trim instead of work, they could make much more money just by thinking. Have you gone to "career day" at any local schools and spoken up about your career? It would be very useful to todays student.

If you want little scammers running amok ...

Kinder v. Bankfirst
Plaintiff: James M Kinder,-
Defendant: Bankfirst and DOES
Case Number: 3:2007cv00877
Filed: May 15, 2007
Court: California Southern District Court
Office: San Diego Office [ Court Info ]
County: San Diego
Presiding Judge: Judge Dana M. Sabraw
Referring Judge: Magistrate Judge Louisa S Porter
Nature of Suit: Torts - Injury - Other Personal Injury
Cause: 28:1332 Diversity-Petition for Removal
Jurisdiction: Diversity
Jury Demanded By: None
----------

Kinder v. Astra Business Services Inc
Plaintiff: James M Kinder,-
Defendant: Astra Business Services Inc

Case Number: 3:2007cv02091
Filed: October 31, 2007

Court: California Southern District Court
Office: San Diego Office [ Court Info ]
County: San Diego
Presiding Judge: Judge Marilyn L. Huff
Referring Judge: Magistrate Judge Jan M. Adler

Nature of Suit: Other Statutes - Other Statutory Actions
Cause: 28:1441 Petition for Removal
Jurisdiction: Federal Question
Jury Demanded By: Defendant
----------

DONA LOSHONKOHL, Plaintiff and Respondent, v. JAMES M.
KINDER, Defendant and Appellant.

D039267

COURT OF APPEAL OF CALIFORNIA, FOURTH APPELLATE DISTRICT,
DIVISION ONE

109 Cal. App. 4th 510; 135 Cal. Rptr. 2d 114; 2003 Cal.
App. LEXIS 830; 31 Media L. Rep. 1855; 2003 Cal. Daily Op.
Service 4805; 2003 Daily Journal DAR 6056

June 6, 2003, Filed

PRIOR HISTORY: APPEAL from a judgment of the Superior Court of San Diego County,
William J. Howatt, Jr., Judge. Super. Ct. No. EC018809.

OPINION:

The issue presented in this case is whether Civil Code
section 47.5 (undesignated section references are to this code) is
unconstitutional under the First Amendment as improper content-based
discrimination. We answer this question in the negative and affirm.

FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND

Appellant failed to designate a reporter's transcript of the trial; thus, our
factual summary derives from the trial court's statement of decision.

Dona Loshonkohl, a veteran police officer with the City of San Diego Police
Department (SDPD), was responsible for establishing good community
relations as part of the SDPD's "Community Oriented Policing" program. Part of
this program, called the "Problem Oriented Policy" (POP) program, focused on
designing solutions to alleviate specific problems within a community.

James M. Kinder operates a car rental business, and several other businesses,
from a location on India Street in San Diego. After a confrontation with Kinder
on August 14, 1998, Loshonkohl obtained approval for a POP project to deal with
problems near Kinder's businesses, including problems with abandoned
vehicles, parking, creating a neighborhood eyesore and code violations. The POP
project focused on Kinder's businesses and at least six other businesses in the
area. During the course of the POP project, Kinder aggressively confronted
Loshonkohl on a number of occasions and by the project's conclusion, officers
impounded and towed a total of 41 vehicles, 16 of which belonged to Kinder.

reality checker wrote:

<quoted text>
$500 per hour for your "thoughts?" with the unemployment rate rising, can you tell us where to get that job?

Looks like him:

Kinder v. Bankfirst
Plaintiff: James M Kinder,-
Defendant: Bankfirst and DOES
Case Number: 3:2007cv00877
Filed: May 15, 2007
Court: California Southern District Court
Office: San Diego Office [ Court Info ]
County: San Diego
Presiding Judge: Judge Dana M. Sabraw
Referring Judge: Magistrate Judge Louisa S Porter
Nature of Suit: Torts - Injury - Other Personal Injury
Cause: 28:1332 Diversity-Petition for Removal
Jurisdiction: Diversity
Jury Demanded By: None
----------

Kinder v. Astra Business Services Inc
Plaintiff: James M Kinder,-
Defendant: Astra Business Services Inc

Case Number: 3:2007cv02091
Filed: October 31, 2007

Court: California Southern District Court
Office: San Diego Office [ Court Info ]
County: San Diego
Presiding Judge: Judge Marilyn L. Huff
Referring Judge: Magistrate Judge Jan M. Adler

Nature of Suit: Other Statutes - Other Statutory Actions
Cause: 28:1441 Petition for Removal
Jurisdiction: Federal Question
Jury Demanded By: Defendant
----------

DONA LOSHONKOHL, Plaintiff and Respondent, v. JAMES M.
KINDER, Defendant and Appellant.

D039267

COURT OF APPEAL OF CALIFORNIA, FOURTH APPELLATE DISTRICT,
DIVISION ONE

109 Cal. App. 4th 510; 135 Cal. Rptr. 2d 114; 2003 Cal.
App. LEXIS 830; 31 Media L. Rep. 1855; 2003 Cal. Daily Op.
Service 4805; 2003 Daily Journal DAR 6056

June 6, 2003, Filed

PRIOR HISTORY: APPEAL from a judgment of the Superior Court of San Diego County,
William J. Howatt, Jr., Judge. Super. Ct. No. EC018809.

OPINION:

The issue presented in this case is whether Civil Code
section 47.5 (undesignated section references are to this code) is
unconstitutional under the First Amendment as improper content-based
discrimination. We answer this question in the negative and affirm.

FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND

Appellant failed to designate a reporter's transcript of the trial; thus, our
factual summary derives from the trial court's statement of decision.

Dona Loshonkohl, a veteran police officer with the City of San Diego Police
Department (SDPD), was responsible for establishing good community
relations as part of the SDPD's "Community Oriented Policing" program. Part of
this program, called the "Problem Oriented Policy" (POP) program, focused on
designing solutions to alleviate specific problems within a community.

James M. Kinder operates a car rental business, and several other businesses,
from a location on India Street in San Diego. After a confrontation with Kinder
on August 14, 1998, Loshonkohl obtained approval for a POP project to deal with
problems near Kinder's businesses, including problems with abandoned
vehicles, parking, creating a neighborhood eyesore and code violations. The POP
project focused on Kinder's businesses and at least six other businesses in the
area. During the course of the POP project, Kinder aggressively confronted
Loshonkohl on a number of occasions and by the project's conclusion, officers
impounded and towed a total of 41 vehicles, 16 of which belonged to Kinder.

Again, hempheads, there are 7.5 million people in the greater San Diego area, including at least eight James M Kinders. The articles are not about me, so feel free to pound sand.

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James M Kinder wrote:
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Smoke another bong hit, idiot. I make $500.00 an hour on my thought alone.... Hope Bubba has a "big" surprise for you when you hit your cell...
$500 per hour for your "thoughts?" with the unemployment rate rising, can you tell us where to get that job? It seems to pay more than you claim trimmers make, and with all these high school kids wanting to trim instead of work, they could make much more money just by thinking. Have you gone to "career day" at any local schools and spoken up about your career? It would be very useful to todays student.
__________
reality checker
You don't seem like the kind of person that could handle a real job.

Yano, Kinder keeps claiming things very much unsubstantiated (much like his Measure B claims)

To wit:

He claims not to be old enough to be the James M. Kinder listed, but he bought 70 acres for $100K? When did he do that if he's not in his sixties now?

He claims that there are eight James Kinders in San Diego, but 411.com only shows two (both him, we would assume).

http://411.com