Sides being chosen over marijuana initiative

James M Kinder wrote:

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"Freedom and tolerance?" More like Money Laundering, tax evasion, and poisoning our youth. Grow up, you simpleton criminal.

Since you aren't a resident, don't vote here and only visit twice a year to kill Bambi and Thumper, why don't you worry about the drug problem in your own backyard? Those hundred or so rightwingnut frat brats at UC San Diego selling coke, meth, LSD, heroin, and those nasty evil prescription drugs to innocent children right under your big fat nose? Head stuck up your ****?

Measure G does state that sales of marijuana are illegal. If we arrested all those who are selling pot we could clean the pot out of our schools and reduce our pot problem by over 98%.

Sounds good to me.

Maybe all the pro pot people on these pages could share a jail cell.

truth_seeker wrote:

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Since you aren't a resident, don't vote here and only visit twice a year to kill Bambi and Thumper, why don't you worry about the drug problem in your own backyard? Those hundred or so rightwingnut frat brats at UC San Diego selling coke, meth, LSD, heroin, and those nasty evil prescription drugs to innocent children right under your big fat nose? Head stuck up your ****?

"Rightwing" frat brats? Are you nuts? They were a bunch of dreadlock wearing, Al Gore loving ultra-liberals. At least they were selling to adults, although I am happy to see them off to jail.

Watcher wrote:

reality checker
We have pot in our schools because of drug dealing low life like yourself.

NO ..NO.. NO.. WE HAVE DRUGS IN OUR SCHOOLS BECAUSE NO ONE TEACHES OUR KIDS TO SAY NO!! lOCAL LEO--nicest guy in the world -has a kid who's a meth freak..no pot in THAT house i can gaurentee you...ya think someone's been holdin'that kid down and shovin' it up her nose?? Musta been one of those vile pot growers MADE her do it huh? you are an ****!!!! My son goes to USC, say he sees more prescription drugs for sale than pot...black market rx drugs is big in LA...But since I taught my son to respect himSELF and his body its not a problem for him....Think this tactic might work in the schools???

MENDO MAMA wrote:

<quoted text>NO ..NO.. NO.. WE HAVE DRUGS IN OUR SCHOOLS BECAUSE NO ONE TEACHES OUR KIDS TO SAY NO!! lOCAL LEO--nicest guy in the world -has a kid who's a meth freak..no pot in THAT house i can gaurentee you...ya think someone's been holdin'that kid down and shovin' it up her nose?? Musta been one of those vile pot growers MADE her do it huh? you are an ****!!!! My son goes to USC, say he sees more prescription drugs for sale than pot...black market rx drugs is big in LA...But since I taught my son to respect himSELF and his body its not a problem for him....Think this tactic might work in the schools???

Amen, Education is the key! The growers and dopers don't want education, though. That is why there are so many pot smoking teachers. Burrell was just the tip of the iceberg. There was a teacher two years ago that was caught with weed in her desk at school! SHe very quietly disappeared from the district. It wasn't in the paper but I know some of the students that were harrassed and searched in the room as this guilty dope smokin worthless teacher looked on. It was only after one of the kids, who was clean, informed the school Narc that the weed was in the teachers desk that the truth was revealed!!!

Watcher wrote:

Measure G does state that sales of marijuana are illegal. If we arrested all those who are selling pot we could clean the pot out of our schools and reduce our pot problem by over 98%.
Sounds good to me.
Maybe all the pro pot people on these pages could share a jail cell.

As well as the buyers. Put the buyers in jail, also. equal justice for all involved in the "illegal" activity.

interesting info. on James Kinder of San Diego. Read on

SAN DIEGO -- A fax machine, pager and a telephone are what brought 24 lawyers to a local courtroom.

It's not one case; it's 165 and counting.

But there is just one plaintiff -- James Kinder, owner of Rainbow Rent-A-Car on India Street.

Kinder is a former lawyer once convicted of fraud. He is in a legal battle now on another matter.

Including one with Jack DeAngelis.

"They're asking for money, asking for money and kind of shaking me down," said De Angelis.

It all happened after De Angelis sent Kinder a fax soliciting guests for a radio show. Kinder called him.

"He said,'Today is the worst day of your life. I'm in the fax mafia and I'm in the fax suing business,'" said De Angelis.

Kinder sent De Angelis a demand for $10,000 for the one fax, claiming it violated several federal and state business and telemarketing laws.

"I said,'Go wherever you need to go, my friend. You're not getting a dime out of me,'" said De Angelis.

Kinder went to court and sued De Angelis for $25,000, plus penalties and fees, adding to the pile of Kinder cases.

"Keep in mind, this is not my only 165 cases, I have lots and lots of other cases," said Judge Ronald Styn.

So, has Kinder over the years. He has been involved in more than 600 cases.

The Superior Court lists him as a vexatious litigant, someone who abuses the court system with frivolous claims.

Kinder was a personal injury attorney until 1989. He gave up his license right before the State Bar Court was set to disbar him from crimes involving moral turpitude.

A State Bar document obtained by 10News explained that Kinder forged a marriage license so a woman could marry her dead boyfriend, collect the life insurance money and split it with Kinder.

Kinder's take for forging the license was $3,300.

In a phone call with 10News' Lauren Reynolds, Kinder described the episode as a mistake. He said it has nothing to do with the current litigation, which he said is a "public service."

Kinder claims to represent the little people against telemarketers, but defense attorneys handling the 165 current cases said it is a scam based on Kinder's unique phone number.

Defense attorney Tim Vanden Heuvel said, "Essentially this number is being used to generate litigation and nothing else."

Kinder has the phone number nine nine nine-nine nine nine nine. He said it is the most valuable number in San Diego for marketing.

The problem is many businesses, medical clinics and even charities use nine nine nine-nine nine nine nine when inputting customer information into a computer if the customer's real phone number isn't known. Kinder receives all the calls for nine nine nine-nine nine nine nine, calls meant for other people.

"This defense team is optimistic that this will be dismissed at an early stage," said defense attorney Bryan Shartle.

Kinder sues individuals, businesses, non-profits and even charities. He has just filed suit against Rady Children's Hospital and the Salvation Army.

10News attempted to talk to Kinder at his rental car business, but he was not there. It was learned that Kinder was in jail serving time for violating a court order.

10News contacted Kinder in jail by e-mail to see if he wanted to comment, but he did not respond.

Because Kinder is considered a vexatious litigation, he may be forced to post a multimillion-dollar bond before his current round of cases could go forward.

Instead of figuring out how this county can build up a local economy based on the growing solar power industry and the upcoming High-speed rail bond measure, just two name two possibilities, we're focusing on Measure B and imaginary impeachment proceedings against the outgoing President and Vice President.

This county is a **** joke, no matter which side of the Measure B debate you come out on.

MENDO MAMA wrote:

<quoted text>NO ..NO.. NO.. WE HAVE DRUGS IN OUR SCHOOLS BECAUSE NO ONE TEACHES OUR KIDS TO SAY NO!! lOCAL LEO--nicest guy in the world -has a kid who's a meth freak..no pot in THAT house i can gaurentee you...ya think someone's been holdin'that kid down and shovin' it up her nose?? Musta been one of those vile pot growers MADE her do it huh? you are an ****!!!! My son goes to USC, say he sees more prescription drugs for sale than pot...black market rx drugs is big in LA...But since I taught my son to respect himSELF and his body its not a problem for him....Think this tactic might work in the schools???

Did it occur to you that it all starts somewhere...that high is ever so elusive.

One is no less worse than the other.

MENDO MAMA wrote

WE HAVE DRUGS IN OUR SCHOOLS BECAUSE NO ONE TEACHES OUR KIDS TO SAY NO!!
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We have drugs in our schools because the pot growers take their pot to our schools and sell it to kids.

reality checker

How does all this gibberish about Kinder change the fact that your a low life drug dealer?

"Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."

Abraham Lincoln - Former President

VOTE NO ON MEASURE B!

Feds: Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness By JENNIFER C. KERR, Associated Press Writer
Fri May 9, 7:00 AM ET

WASHINGTON - Depression, teens and marijuana are a dangerous mix that can lead to dependency, mental illness or suicidal thoughts, according to a White House report being released Friday.

A teen who has been depressed at some point in the past year is more than twice as likely to have used marijuana as teens who have not reported being depressed — 25 percent compared with 12 percent, said the report by the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy.

"Marijuana is a more consequential substance of abuse than our culture has treated it in the last 20 years," said John Walters, director of the office. "This is not just youthful experimentation that they'll get over as we used to think in the past."

Smoking marijuana can lead to more serious problems, Walters said in an interview.

For example, using marijuana increases the risk of developing mental disorders by 40 percent, the report said. And teens who smoke pot at least once a month over a yearlong period are three times more likely to have suicidal thoughts than nonusers, it said.

The report also cited research that showed that teens who smoke marijuana when feeling depressed were more than twice as likely as their peers to abuse or become addicted to pot — 8 percent compared with 3 percent.

Experts who have worked with children say there's nothing harmless about marijuana.

"I've seen many, many kids' lives negatively impacted and taken off track because of marijuana," said Elizabeth Stanley-Salazar, director of adolescent services for Phoenix House treatment centers in California. "It's somewhat Russian roulette. There are so many factors, emotional, psychological, biological. You can't predict the experimentation and how it will impact a kid."

The drug control policy office analyzed about a dozen studies looking at marijuana use, including research by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration.

Walters appealed to parents to recognize signs of possible drug use and depression.

"It's not something you look the other way about when your teen starts appearing careless about their grooming, withdrawing from the family, losing interest in daily activities," Walters said. "Find out what's wrong."

Does the Yes on B supporters notice how many dopers are in town again. I sat in my nail place and watched many toking up on their pipes. This place is going up in smoke.

Marijuana Danger wrote:

Feds: Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness By JENNIFER C. KERR, Associated Press Writer
Fri May 9, 7:00 AM ET
WASHINGTON - Depression, teens and marijuana are a dangerous mix that can lead to dependency, mental illness or suicidal thoughts, according to a White House report being released Friday.
A teen who has been depressed at some point in the past year is more than twice as likely to have used marijuana as teens who have not reported being depressed — 25 percent compared with 12 percent, said the report by the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy.
"Marijuana is a more consequential substance of abuse than our culture has treated it in the last 20 years," said John Walters, director of the office. "This is not just youthful experimentation that they'll get over as we used to think in the past."
Smoking marijuana can lead to more serious problems, Walters said in an interview.
For example, using marijuana increases the risk of developing mental disorders by 40 percent, the report said. And teens who smoke pot at least once a month over a yearlong period are three times more likely to have suicidal thoughts than nonusers, it said.
The report also cited research that showed that teens who smoke marijuana when feeling depressed were more than twice as likely as their peers to abuse or become addicted to pot — 8 percent compared with 3 percent.
Experts who have worked with children say there's nothing harmless about marijuana.
"I've seen many, many kids' lives negatively impacted and taken off track because of marijuana," said Elizabeth Stanley-Salazar, director of adolescent services for Phoenix House treatment centers in California. "It's somewhat Russian roulette. There are so many factors, emotional, psychological, biological. You can't predict the experimentation and how it will impact a kid."
The drug control policy office analyzed about a dozen studies looking at marijuana use, including research by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration.
Walters appealed to parents to recognize signs of possible drug use and depression.
"It's not something you look the other way about when your teen starts appearing careless about their grooming, withdrawing from the family, losing interest in daily activities," Walters said. "Find out what's wrong."

so you mean you are WORKING FOR MEASURE B COALITION? AND, YOU ARE NOT REALLY James M Kinder?
how would you like it if someone was using your name and middle initial,
so you work for measure b coalition AND you use someone elses full name and middle initial?

AND YOU TALK ABOUT LIEING CHEATING DOPE GROWERSZ!

IDENTITY THEFT IS ILLEGAL. I EMAILED THESE FORUMS TO THE REAL KINDER AND YUP BY GOLLY-
HE'LL PROBABLY SUE YOU HE TOLD ME!

HIRE AN ATTORNEY!
IDENTITY THEFT IS ILLEGAL WATCHER!
YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT!

http://www.10news.com/investigations/15658996 ...

WE'LL AT LEAST YES ON B COALITION HAS BEEN EXPOSED!

YES ON B COALITION IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION AND LIES!
VOTE NO ON MEASURE B
THE ANTI-PATIENT JAIL YOUR NEIGHBOR BILL!

this study does not tell all the facts. does it take into consideration wether or not these teens were already depressed before beginning using? Were the peers they were compared with prone to dedpression or other health concerns? were the kids already on the track toward developing mental problems due to problems in their life.
I do not want kids to turn towards drugs and alcohol trying to numb themselves, but I dont want my information coming from one sided incomplete studies....

ps why didnt you mention that the report also says this..."The drug control policy office analyzed about a dozen studies looking at marijuana use, including research by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration.

Overall, marijuana use among teens has decreased 25 percent since 2001, down to about 2.3 million kids who used pot at least once a month, the drug control office said..."

live and let live wrote:

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so you mean you are WORKING FOR MEASURE B COALITION? AND, YOU ARE NOT REALLY James M Kinder?
how would you like it if someone was using your name and middle initial,
so you work for measure b coalition AND you use someone elses full name and middle initial?
AND YOU TALK ABOUT LIEING CHEATING DOPE GROWERSZ!
IDENTITY THEFT IS ILLEGAL. I EMAILED THESE FORUMS TO THE REAL KINDER AND YUP BY GOLLY-
HE'LL PROBABLY SUE YOU HE TOLD ME!
HIRE AN ATTORNEY!
IDENTITY THEFT IS ILLEGAL WATCHER!
YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT!
http://www.10news.com/investigations/15658996 ...
WE'LL AT LEAST YES ON B COALITION HAS BEEN EXPOSED!
YES ON B COALITION IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION AND LIES!
VOTE NO ON MEASURE B
THE ANTI-PATIENT JAIL YOUR NEIGHBOR BILL!

Stay in Hawaii, you dope smoking fool. I am not the person in the 10 News story you reference.

live and let live wrote:

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so you mean you are WORKING FOR MEASURE B COALITION? AND, YOU ARE NOT REALLY James M Kinder?
how would you like it if someone was using your name and middle initial,
so you work for measure b coalition AND you use someone elses full name and middle initial?
AND YOU TALK ABOUT LIEING CHEATING DOPE GROWERSZ!
IDENTITY THEFT IS ILLEGAL. I EMAILED THESE FORUMS TO THE REAL KINDER AND YUP BY GOLLY-
HE'LL PROBABLY SUE YOU HE TOLD ME!
HIRE AN ATTORNEY!
IDENTITY THEFT IS ILLEGAL WATCHER!
YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT!
http://www.10news.com/investigations/15658996 ...
WE'LL AT LEAST YES ON B COALITION HAS BEEN EXPOSED!
YES ON B COALITION IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION AND LIES!
VOTE NO ON MEASURE B
THE ANTI-PATIENT JAIL YOUR NEIGHBOR BILL!

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repeat after me:

"I am sofa King we Todded"