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R Dobbs
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Watcher wrote: I'm amazed at the number of people who are dedicated to making money off of poisoning kids with illegal drugs. A Mendo voice, R Dobbs, John Thomas, reality checker. What are you people going to do when the laws stop you from poisoning kids with drugs? Well considering we all probably have real jobs (at least I know I do), and there are already laws in place to put people in jail who "poison" kids...Continue on as normal. You just can't get it through your thick neanderthal skull that there might actually be tax-paying, law-abiding citizens out there who think that our current drug policies don't work, can you? As usual you see everything in the "with me or against me" mind set. You truly are an ignorant man.
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A Mendo voice
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R Dobbs wrote: <quoted text> Well considering we all probably have real jobs (at least I know I do), and there are already laws in place to put people in jail who "poison" kids...Continue on as normal. You just can't get it through your thick neanderthal skull that there might actually be tax-paying, law-abiding citizens out there who think that our current drug policies don't work, can you? As usual you see everything in the "with me or against me" mind set. You truly are an ignorant man. I to have a real job. They just believe what they want to and what they are told. Support HR 5843 Summary of HR 5843 An Act to Remove Federal Penalties for the Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults,” sponsored by U.S. Representative Barney Frank (D-Mass.), would eliminate federal penalties for the possession or not-for-profit transfer of small amounts of marijuana. The bill would remove federal penalties at the federal level only:(1) possession of up to 100 grams of marijuana and (2) the not-for-profit transfer of one ounce (28.3 grams) of marijuana. Additionally, this legislation would provide for a civil penalty of $100 for the public use of marijuana. SUPPORT HR 5843! FEDERAL LAW IS BEHIND THE TIMES!
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R Dobbs
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Watcher wrote: I'm amazed at the number of people who are dedicated to making money off of poisoning kids with illegal drugs. A Mendo voice, R Dobbs, John Thomas, reality checker. What are you people going to do when the laws stop you from poisoning kids with drugs? Continue on as normal, moron. I happen to have a real job, and most likely John Thomas, et al do too. Plus, there are already laws in place to protect our kids. So what's your point? You just can't get it through your warped head that there might actually be people out there who are normal, tax paying, law-abiding citizens who think that our current drug policies aren't working, can you? As usual you see everything in a "with me or against me" mind set, and have yet again managed to demonstrate your almost unbelievable stupidity and prejudice.
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John Thomas
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watcher
>>>"What are you people going to do when the laws stop you from poisoning kids with drugs?"
Add jumping to conclusions to your list of goof-ups. Yes. I too have a good job and would never think of selling or growing pot in the final days of marijuana hysteria.
What do you propose to keep pot out of childrens' hands? More prohibition? No thanks. We've tried in that in earnest for 40 years. Only ending marijuana prohibition will keep pot away from children. Prohibition gives away control of marijuana to criminals.
Regulate marijuana like alcohol.
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logical one
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The Yes on Measure B Coalition says it only targets the large growers. The other side says it will make one plant a felony and send all the small personal use growers to jail. Who is telling the truth?
The DA is the one who will file charges or not. She makes it clear that Measure G is used to protect the large growers. And she says she will accept Measure B as a "mandate to arrest and prosecute the large commercial growers."
It is a lie to say that Measure B targets one plant or seven plants. The Sheriff and DA have better things to do and have said so.
District Attorney Endorses Measure B
District Attorney Meredith Lintott released the following statement endorsing Measure B:
"Today I am announcing my endorsement for Measure B. I do so because Measure B is consistent with the protection of the rights of legitimate medical marijuana patients and will provide consistency in the law which will greatly assist in the successful prosecution of commercial growers.
As a candidate for District Attorney I pledged to protect the rights of medical marijuana patients and caregivers. I also said I would prosecute those who abuse the protections given to medical marijuana as a cover for commercial growing.
As District Attorney, it is obvious to me that Measure G has become a barrier that greatly complicates the prosecution of solid cases, even where there is overwhelming evidence of commercial cultivation, possession, transportation and sales. The defense attorneys never fail to cite Measure G as a defense for those charged with violating the laws against commercial marijuana. This is true even for the largest growing operations.
Measure G was widely considered to be an advisory measure when it passed, but was later codified as part of the Mendocino County Code. More recently the Board adopted the 25 plant limit from Measure G as the standard for the County, although there is some question whether or not the action of the Board adequately covered all the legal bases.
Measure G, if it is law at all, is bad law because it is internally inconsistent and its major provisions are of dubious legality. Most significantly, it is in direct conflict with state law and defense attorneys are skillful at emphasizing conflicts in the law in order to create doubt on the part of jurors.
As a prosecutor, Measure B will make my job easier by providing consistency in the law. I also believe the state limits protect the rights of medical patients and therefore no legitimate medical patient will suffer if Measure B passes. That is why I support Measure B.
I will accept the passage of Measure B as a mandate from the public to focus marijuana enforcement and prosecution activities on the large commercial growers and those that are endangering public safety and harming the environment. I will also challenge the public to support adequate funding for enforcement and prosecution so that Sheriff Allman and I can carry out the mandate of the public to go after the commercial growers that are harming our county and our environment."
Meredith J. Lintott, April 30, 2008
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Watcher
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Does pot negatively affect our kids? Teens Use Human Skull As Bong http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/09/nat...
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Watcher
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Meredith J. Lintott,
You will also have to accept your recall. You and Allman added up to be two pieces of garbage and we need to through both of you out.
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Watcher
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ukiahan apalled in Florida wrote "I have no problem with people who grow marijuana to sell smoke eat whatever theywant to do." __________ Watcher wrote: Your opinion falls apart when you take into consideration that way over half of the pot that's grown ends up in the hands of kids under the age of 18. __________ ukiahan wrote: you can repeat this a million times, but it still won't make it true. Once again, go to schools and talk to them and they will tell you the real problems (funding), but reality isn't nearly as much as a vivid imagination. __________ Watcher wrote: Ukiahan, It really helps to know what you're talking about. Unfortunately, no school or teacher has shown the courage to come out and say, "hay we have a drug problem."
Instead it's like dominoes.
First, pot pours into the schools.
Second, pot causes a huge drop in grades, a drop in attendance and an increase in the drop out rate.
Third, because schools get their money fro graduation and attendance, the schools money is cut.
Fourth, as an act of self-preservation the teachers and schools systems doctor the attendance books and give away grades.
End result, the quick patch attempted by the school systems never lasts for long and the kids end up the long-term losers.
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John Thomas
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More propaganda from watcher.
As all places where marijuana penalties have been reduced have shown, it DECREASES marijuana use. In the Netherlands, where personal consumption is legal, there is half the use of marijuana as in the U.S. Prohibition is what PUTS marijuana into schools and kids hands.
Plus, the Netherlands has found the seperation of marijuana from the hard drugs has caused the hard drug using population to age out.
Marijuana prohibition is the biggest, most destructive fraud on the planet.
End the insanity of the American Inquisition!
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truth_seeker
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May 9, 2008 AMERICAN COLLEGE OF PHYSICIANS ENDORSES USE OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA The American College of Physicians (ACP), the nation's second largest professional body of physicians, has declared its endorsement for the medicinal use of cannabis. The announcement comes after many arduous years of fighting between the federal government and states like California that have passed their own laws regarding medical marijuana. In short, the ACP feels that cannabis' classification as a Schedule I drug is unjustified in lieu of objective evidence to support its dangers and that the federal government has refuted what some say is overwhelming evidence supporting its medicinal value. The ACP's big brother, the American Medical Association (AMA), has never indicated support for the rescheduling of marijuana, but has urged for further research into the nature of cannabinols and other cannabis-related chemicals. Some hope that little brother's announcement may sway the AMA. This endorsement comes as a breath of fresh air to all of us who have been choked by the stagnancy of our government policies towards pot. The issue of medical marijuana has everything to do with our civil liberties as citizens and nothing to do with any transgression on moral boundaries, whether you consume the herb or not. The myth about marijuana is about as old as the paranoia surrounding the arrival of Halley's Comet back in 1910, and we need to take a cold, hard look at why we feel the way we do about it. Though it took until 2008 for the establishment to stop whistling in the dark and see the writing on the wall, I applaud the ACP. Hopefully, more will follow in suit, and we will take one step back towards regaining our personal liberties and our right to access the best medical care available. http://www.thesequitur.com/content/view/2421/ ...
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THE MENDO MOUNT
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Watcher wrote: ukiahan apalled in Florida wrote "I have no problem with people who grow marijuana to sell smoke eat whatever theywant to do." __________ Watcher wrote: Your opinion falls apart when you take into consideration that way over half of the pot that's grown ends up in the hands of kids under the age of 18. __________ ukiahan wrote: you can repeat this a million times, but it still won't make it true. Once again, go to schools and talk to them and they will tell you the real problems (funding), but reality isn't nearly as much as a vivid imagination. __________ Watcher wrote: Ukiahan, It really helps to know what you're talking about. Unfortunately, no school or teacher has shown the courage to come out and say, "hay we have a drug problem." Instead it's like dominoes. First, pot pours into the schools. Second, pot causes a huge drop in grades, a drop in attendance and an increase in the drop out rate. Third, because schools get their money fro graduation and attendance, the schools money is cut. Fourth, as an act of self-preservation the teachers and schools systems doctor the attendance books and give away grades. End result, the quick patch attempted by the school systems never lasts for long and the kids end up the long-term losers. WATCHER, INOTICE YOUR IN REDWAY TODAY! PICKING UP POUNDS TO DRIVE SOUTH AGAIN? BE CAREFUL GOING THROUGH LAYTONVILLE AND WILLITS, OH THATS RIGHT YOUR WHITE, NO WORRIES!
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R Dobbs
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Watcher wrote: ukiahan apalled in Florida wrote "I have no problem with people who grow marijuana to sell smoke eat whatever theywant to do." __________ Watcher wrote: Your opinion falls apart when you take into consideration that way over half of the pot that's grown ends up in the hands of kids under the age of 18. __________ ukiahan wrote: you can repeat this a million times, but it still won't make it true. Once again, go to schools and talk to them and they will tell you the real problems (funding), but reality isn't nearly as much as a vivid imagination. __________ Watcher wrote: Ukiahan, It really helps to know what you're talking about. Unfortunately, no school or teacher has shown the courage to come out and say, "hay we have a drug problem." Instead it's like dominoes. First, pot pours into the schools. Second, pot causes a huge drop in grades, a drop in attendance and an increase in the drop out rate. Third, because schools get their money fro graduation and attendance, the schools money is cut. Fourth, as an act of self-preservation the teachers and schools systems doctor the attendance books and give away grades. End result, the quick patch attempted by the school systems never lasts for long and the kids end up the long-term losers. Watcher, your logic, or lack of, never cease to amaze me. You are saying that there is DIRECT connection between drop-out rates and pot. However, pot consumption has been steadily declining among our youth, yet drop out rates are rising. So, by your backwards logic, smoking pot increases graduation rates. Obviously, this makes no sense, because there is no connection between the two.
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Watcher
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Truth Seeker is wrong!!!
The American College of Physicians does not support the smoking of marijuana, however it does support continued research of the medical efficacy of THC and cannabinoids.
The AMA states clearly that there is nothing medicinal about smoking anything. Below are quotes from recently released statements by the AMA.
1 “Of comparable or greater concern, are potential adverse effects of cannabinoids and marijuana smoke on the immune, respiratory, cardiovascular, and reproductive systems, and the potential for enhancing carcinogenesis."
2 “In addition to effects attributable to THC, the chronic effects of marijuana smoke are of perhaps greater concern than marijuana’s acute safety profile. Like tobacco, chronic marijuana smoking is associated with lung damage, increased symptoms of chronic bronchitis, and possibly increased risk of lung cancer.”
3 “The AMA recommends that marijuana be retained in Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act.”
One thing to watch out for is the way pro pot people like to play word games when presenting the opinions of others. If a report says that THC has medical benefits in several types of patients, this doesn’t mean that smoking marijuana has medical validity.
Penicillin comes from moldy bread but they are not the same thing, How ever I believe that if moldy bread cost $3,000.00 a pound and got you high, the pot growers would start trying to convince us that it’s penicillin.
The contents of cigarette smoke and pot smoke are over 90% similar. One has nicotine and the other has THC. Both have a long list of toxic carbon compounds and gases plus many known carcinogens. The AMA has stated that it would be extremely hypocritical for it to on the one hand condemn cigarettes and on the other hand condone the smoking of marijuana.
There is nothing medicinal about smoking or eating marijuana. There are numerous and unnecessary poisonous compounds and no dosage control. The benefits of THC have been known for decades. That’s why we have pill form THC,“Marinol”.
The only reason for organic marijuana is for getting high and getting rich. Most of the marijuana that is sold today ends up in the hands of school kids under the age of 18 years old. This has been verified by countless Private, Federal and State Government, Educational and Law Enforcement studies.
If you care about the health and educations of children and the truth,
Vote yes on B
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just the facts
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logical one wrote: The Yes on Measure B Coalition says it only targets the large growers. The other side says it will make one plant a felony and send all the small personal use growers to jail. Who is telling the truth? The DA is the one who will file charges or not. She makes it clear that Measure G is used to protect the large growers. And she says she will accept Measure B as a "mandate to arrest and prosecute the large commercial growers." It is a lie to say that Measure B targets one plant or seven plants. The Sheriff and DA have better things to do and have said so. District Attorney Endorses Measure B District Attorney Meredith Lintott released the following statement endorsing Measure B: "Today I am announcing my endorsement for Measure B. I do so because Measure B is consistent with the protection of the rights of legitimate medical marijuana patients and will provide consistency in the law which will greatly assist in the successful prosecution of commercial growers. As a candidate for District Attorney I pledged to protect the rights of medical marijuana patients and caregivers. I also said I would prosecute those who abuse the protections given to medical marijuana as a cover for commercial growing. As District Attorney, it is obvious to me that Measure G has become a barrier that greatly complicates the prosecution of solid cases, even where there is overwhelming evidence of commercial cultivation, possession, transportation and sales. The defense attorneys never fail to cite Measure G as a defense for those charged with violating the laws against commercial marijuana. This is true even for the largest growing operations. Measure G was widely considered to be an advisory measure when it passed, but was later codified as part of the Mendocino County Code. More recently the Board adopted the 25 plant limit from Measure G as the standard for the County, although there is some question whether or not the action of the Board adequately covered all the legal bases. Measure G, if it is law at all, is bad law because it is internally inconsistent and its major provisions are of dubious legality. Most significantly, it is in direct conflict with state law and defense attorneys are skillful at emphasizing conflicts in the law in order to create doubt on the part of jurors. As a prosecutor, Measure B will make my job easier by providing consistency in the law. I also believe the state limits protect the rights of medical patients and therefore no legitimate medical patient will suffer if Measure B passes. That is why I support Measure B. I will accept the passage of Measure B as a mandate from the public to focus marijuana enforcement and prosecution activities on the large commercial growers and those that are endangering public safety and harming the environment. I will also challenge the public to support adequate funding for enforcement and prosecution so that Sheriff Allman and I can carry out the mandate of the public to go after the commercial growers that are harming our county and our environment." Meredith J. Lintott, April 30, 2008 Notice that the anti-bee Big Liars never reply directly to the DA's endorsement. That is because she undercuts the Big Lie that B attacks small growers and does nothing against large growers. The opposite is true. The DA knows it and the big growers know it. That is why the big growers are telling Big Lies. Vote "YES" on Measure B to stop the big commercial growers.
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Mendo Local
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Well,now, there is proof that the no on b coalition is laced mith Lies, misconceptions, false innuendo and deception. CONGRATULATIONS No on B Coalition, you forced Tom Allman to choose the Yes on B side because you tried todeceive the public with your little flyer, hoping people wouldn/t read the fine print.
Keep your propoganda coming fools, you are to stoned to keep it truthful and honest.
Then there is Live and Let Live.... You stated that you sued Prop B and tried to get a TRO. Are you the long lost son of James Kinder? If you want to "Live and let Live" why not let the peoples voice be heard instead of suing us out of OUR say? I know, I know you only allow freedom of speech if it concurs with your own greed filled agenda. You are an I D I O T !!!
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RECALL
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just the facts wrote: <quoted text> Notice that the anti-bee Big Liars never reply directly to the DA's endorsement. That is because she undercuts the Big Lie that B attacks small growers and does nothing against large growers. The opposite is true. The DA knows it and the big growers know it. That is why the big growers are telling Big Lies. Vote "YES" on Measure B to stop the big commercial growers. RECALL the DA too! Allman and Lintott are about to find out that marijuana rules Medndocino County.
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James M Kinder
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RECALL wrote: <quoted text> RECALL the DA too! Allman and Lintott are about to find out that marijuana rules Medndocino County. Wow, what an admission. I guess that is why it is called "dope."
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A Mendo voice
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A yes vote on measure BS takes away personal use from the people of Mendocino county by repealing Measure G "The personal use act" and does nothing to help get rid of these big grows. Measure B is BS!
NO ON B!!!!!!!!
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Watcher
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Measure G 25 plants equal 25 pounds or 400 oz's per year. 400 oz's divided by 52 weeks is 7.692 oz's per week. Anyone who smokes over 7.5 ounces per week will soon need a funeral parlor.
Measure B 6 plants equal 6 pounds or 96 oz's per year. 96 oz's divided by 52 weeks is 1.846 oz's per week. Anyone who smokes just under two ounces per week needs to go to a drug rehab.
We know that the Med Pot growers aren't lying when they say they never sell any of their pot and that it's all for personal use, so we can conclude that voting for measure B will stop overdoses and save lives.
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John Thomas
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Some people have thousands of bottles of wine in their wine cellars. They must not be lying when they say they never sell any of their wine and it's all for personal use..........
Regulate marijuana like alcohol.
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