DA endorses Measure B

2Sense wrote:

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It's too bad you won't be around to console the 3 and 7 year old kids just taken into CPS today, because mom and dad just got busted for 800+ plants and 200+ pounds processed.
I guess their defense will be all the crap you are spouting? Maybe they should have taken some of their early profits and moved to the Netherlands while they still had the chance.

AND will measure BS help prosecute these people? NO, measure BS doesn't help with this, it only goes after the people growing over 6 plants. The full of crap BS supporters say it will "help get the big growers and diesel growers" When in fact they can already do this and measure B won't help one bit on "big growers".
B supporters stop with the lies and speak the truth about what you believe which is "zero tolerence" and "life sentences for small growers over 6 plants"
Ignorant people are suck! Learn some tolerance or move!

As 2Sense stated, the realities of the illegal world of pot go far beyond what allot of these growers care to admit to.

The growers seem to think that all would be fine if every one stopped being concerned for the kids and education and if all the greed and weirdness just disappeared.

This is a fantasy world that allows getting stoned and rich to continue for the growers but doesn't help the kids or do away with the criminal influence at all.

The world the pot growers are describing is like one of those paintings where it shows a lion, a sheep, a tiger, a deer and two people reclined under a tree.

This world doesn't exist, it never did. Greed and irresponsibility always has hurt someone. As long as it's not the pot growers, they don't seem to care.

2sense

>>>"It's too bad you won't be around to console the 3 and 7 year old kids just taken into CPS today, because mom and dad just got busted for 800+ plants and 200+ pounds processed."

That's the evil prohibitionist's fault, of course. People sell TONS of alcohol, the far worse drug, and get to go home to their families every night.

>>>"I guess their defense will be all the crap you are spouting?"

In a country that still valued justice it would. These days are shaky in that regard.

>>>"Maybe they should have taken some of their early profits and moved to the Netherlands while they still had the chance."

Maybe. But things will become that way here too. Get used to it. It's time for truth and sanity.

watcher

>>>"The growers seem to think that all would be fine if every one stopped being concerned for the kids and education and if all the greed and weirdness just disappeared."

The growers? Has someone here indicated they are a grower? I think you are referring to marijuana reformers. We are the ones who are concerned for the kids. Prohibition puts pot, and other drugs, into the hands of kids. And we are the ones who want to educate - with the truth. Not indoctrinate with the party line, like you and the prohibitionists.

And there is no greed greater than the Fortune 500, of course. They won't be satisfied until they have devoured the planet. They are so greedy, they don't want to stop raking in the billions the monstrous fraud of marijuana prohibition throws their way.

John Thomas
Your convoluted dribble isn't going to stop measure B from being voted in.

watcher

Out of arguments, eh? That's the way it goes sometimes. Let me know if you scrape something else from the bottom of the barrel.

John Thomas wrote:

watcher
Out of arguments, eh? That's the way it goes sometimes. Let me know if you scrape something else from the bottom of the barrel.

Out of arguments? Hell no, there are many, and they are old and they are tired. I am bored hearing them all over and over again.

The real problems far out weigh the claimed virtues. Anyone living in Mendocino County can see this first hand for themselves.

The only people really concerned about measure B passing are the users who can grow and use more pot than they could ever want or need under measure G.

Get real, but pleeeeeeeese don't come back with the same old tired arguments.

John Thomas wrote:

2sense
>>>"It's too bad you won't be around to console the 3 and 7 year old kids just taken into CPS today, because mom and dad just got busted for 800+ plants and 200+ pounds processed."
That's the evil prohibitionist's fault, of course. People sell TONS of alcohol, the far worse drug, and get to go home to their families every night.
>>>"I guess their defense will be all the crap you are spouting?"
In a country that still valued justice it would. These days are shaky in that regard.
>>>"Maybe they should have taken some of their early profits and moved to the Netherlands while they still had the chance."
Maybe. But things will become that way here too. Get used to it. It's time for truth and sanity.

On second thought. Go ahead. I'm sure you feel the need to sway a few more feeble minds to your cause.

As for me, I'm out of here.

VOTE YES ON B

saundra richards

"the world as many describe it can identify with the painting...many situations long for peace with less than favorable circumstances...what would you do..? Shoot the tiger and lion?"
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I'm going to keep advising that bring the greedy child poisoning actions of the pot growers to a halt.

I say directly to you saundra richards that poisoning millions of kids with illegal drugs is wrong. It's a bad thing.

saundra richards do you understand. Poisoning millions of kids with illegal drugs is wrong. It's a bad thing.

2Sense

Since there were no points in your last two posts, I went back to the beginning of the topic to see if there was some reason you supported B, but there wasn't any.

Would you care to state it (them)?

John Thomas wrote
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watcher
Out of arguments, eh? That's the way it goes sometimes. Let me know if you scrape something else from the bottom of the barrel.
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John Thomas believes that all of our concerns for the health and futures of kids are a waist of time and source from the bottom of the barrel.

YES ON B wrote

Big grows go beyond the bounds of reason in that they attempt to allow a man's appetite by ignoring legislation, and make profits out of those things that are crimes. A big grow strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded.
YES ON B
May 2008
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I'm on your side, But!
This county also has tens of thousands of smaller grow sites (several hundred plants) that also sell their pot to any buyer no matter how young.

Growing pot for sale is illegal!

There is no legitimate side to the pot business!

Any size commercial grow strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded.

Big or small, poisoning kids with illegal drugs is wrong.

saundra richards
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yes poisoning kids is wrong. I have never stated otherwise. I do not agree with you about many, many things....but poisoning kids...you don't give a crap or you would be lobbying against tobacco, which is hanging out of many Willits youngsters mouths daily out in the open. China sends us poisonous everything,,,, you are against all pot smokers and growers am at odds with that mentality.
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I focus on pot here because there aren't tens of thousands of locals trying to sell cigarettes to kids but there are that many locals supplying pot to kids all across the nation and your campaign would have that continue.

I am not against all smokers, just the ones that get high and drive, get high and go to work, get high in front of the kids. I am only against the growers that are also sellers. The growers that go into business.

If someone with no kids wants to take their legal chances on 3 or 4 plants for personal consumption, that’s one thing. But having kids around or selling any of it at all is another,

A Mendo voice wrote:

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AND will measure BS help prosecute these people? NO, measure BS doesn't help with this, it only goes after the people growing over 6 plants. The full of crap BS supporters say it will "help get the big growers and diesel growers" When in fact they can already do this and measure B won't help one bit on "big growers".
B supporters stop with the lies and speak the truth about what you believe which is "zero tolerence" and "life sentences for small growers over 6 plants"
Ignorant people are suck! Learn some tolerance or move!

I have to correct you: measure b makes any PATIENT a felon with 7 or more plants. measure b makes ANY NON PATIENT a felon with ONE plant! No more personal gardens. Not even one plant for personal use. Only patients can have plants.

watcher

>>>"John Thomas believes that all of our concerns for the health and futures of kids are a waist of time and source from the bottom of the barrel."

This is one reason why discussion of marijuana prohibition is so difficult. The prohibitionist lie about what reformers say. I have always said intoxicants of any kind - alcohol, marijuana, whatever - are not for kids. I have shown that it is PROHIBITION that PUTS drugs into the hands of kids. Legal vendors, like sellers of alcohol and cigarettes do not want to lose their licenses, so do not sell to minors. No, watcher, it's your disfunctional arguments that come from the bottom of the barrell.

Here are more scrapings.

>>>"There is no legitimate side to the pot business!"

Because of the monstrous fraud of marijuana prohibition.

>>>"Any size commercial grow strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."

Absurd. It's marijuana prohibition that has struck such a crucial blow to those principles. The war on marijuana consumers violates every precept of freedom and rights. It has made American uglier than it has ever been by not only destroying freedom, but encouraging bigoted hate-mongers to crawl out from under their rocks.

>>>"I focus on pot here because there aren't tens of thousands of locals trying to sell cigarettes to kids"

Just what I have been saying all along. So, you should "focus" by trying to fix the system so it will protect kids like tobacco regulation does. Seems you can't see the forest for the trees.

Regulate marijuana like alcohol.

Very well said. Good luck getting through to him though; it's like arguing with a CD that keeps skipping and repeating the same crap over and over and over....

Watcher wrote:

John Thomas
Your convoluted dribble isn't going to stop measure B from being voted in.

No your's is watcher!

I'm amazed at the number of people who are dedicated to making money off of poisoning kids with illegal drugs.

A Mendo voice, R Dobbs, John Thomas, reality checker. What are you people going to do when the laws stop you from poisoning kids with drugs?

Watcher wrote:

I'm amazed at the number of people who are dedicated to making money off of poisoning kids with illegal drugs.
A Mendo voice, R Dobbs, John Thomas, reality checker. What are you people going to do when the laws stop you from poisoning kids with drugs?

What are you going to do when you are the only ignorant person left? None of us are poisioning minds other than you. Since you didn't learn the first time here it is again. The people of Mendocino voted in measure G by a large margin. We do not lock up people for growing 25 plants. So, if you are so ignorant as to think you know what's better than the people of our great county then you should move because we believe in freedom and tolerance here. Measure BS will fail!

I have been noticing that there are many No ON B
signs next to herbicide soaked vineyards. Are you
legal drug growers worried. "Save Mendocino County
no competition for WINE the drug of choice"