Coast man critically injured in attack over marijuana

not a grower wrote:

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this guy has some real mental issues I bet you are a very loanly person with no friends. only a bitter person would spew out such filth.

And in the next post, you blazing hypocrite, you tell someone that they are no better than the toilet paper you wipe your butt with ......

I think that you are a latent violent person, who is just repressed. You would love to tell it like it is, but you are a typical battered housewife in search of a spine. Grow one, wimpy!

Your opinions are as milquetoast as are your posts!

your just as bad wrote:

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There is nothing you have posted to show that you are smarter than anyone here. You just insult anyone who doesn't agree with you and present no facts what so ever. While ddc may be hard to follow and gets WAY to upset and insulting as well, at least he tries to make a point and post links to back up what he has to say. He does research. You just call names and offend. You and lawnorder keep sighting ddc's posts and saying this is what pot does to your brain. You are using one person to stereotype a large group. Under this logic, one can look at your posts and assume that all nonsmokers are violent and offensive, which is not true.

No, sour grapes.....he is not the only brain-waste addled-doper-brain on these boards, or in real life. There really IS a LARGE, HUGE group of dope-smoking idiots out there. Guess you 'Don't get around much anymore'.....?

Large, huge? Please stamp out and abolish redundancy.

not a grower wrote:

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I bet you are a very loanly person

Nope! Sorry. I don't make loans.

Ddc does his research?
No. Ddc merely pastes spew... from other people, most of which are nOT researchers, but rather, compilers of convenient "facts". That does not equate to "research". It more closely resembles PROPAGANDA dissemination, as occurred during 1930s Germany, where "facts" were released to the public, and then propagated by those who claimed to be in-the-know about such things. The result: a nation full of brainless zombies, dependent on folks like Ddc to tell them what the truth is.

I use this example because Ddc uses fascism, in his long-winded rants (copied from others) against the anti-pot folks. Fact is, these pro-potters more closely map fascist behavior and tactics, than do the fascists in Washington. They use propaganda, election fraud (as we have seen recently), intimidation and coercion, bribery, etc. Common elements in a fascist state.

DdC wrote:

"Marijuana does not lead to physical dependency, although some evidence indicates that the heavy, long-term users may develop a psychological dependence on the drug"
--The Shafer Commission of 1970

Just one, to prove a point, PINHEAD!
Marijuana Addiction

Marijuana addiction has clear signs and indicators and this page will discuss this in depth. Marijuana addiction is simply an uncontrollable urge to possess and use the drug. Those with marijuana addiction are not able to stop using the drug even if they wish. Often a person with marijuana addiction will make continuous excuses about why now is not a good time to stop using the drug. Such people are not alone. Marijuana addiction is a disease that affects millions of people every year.

There is a good reason why admission to rehabilitation facilities has doubled for marijuana addiction. The potency of the drug continues to get more powerful and studies show that teens can get a hold of marijuana often easier than alcohol. Even those who seek treatment for drugs that are perceived has "harder" like heroin or cocaine will often acknowledge that marijuana is their primary drug of choice.

Marijuana addiction has the same characteristics as any other addiction to other drugs including alcohol, tobacco or even caffeine. The frequent obsession with the drug, thinking about it all the time, where to get it, when to get it, is there enough, is it good enough, will I have the money for more are frequently asked questions. Another trait of marijuana addiction is the physical craving that comes when the body adapts to the drug and begins to develop a tolerance to it. Anyone who has been smoking marijuana for awhile can tell that they must smoke more now to feel the same effect that just a few hits used to produce. It's not about the quality of the weed, it's the bodies defense mechanism as it readjusts to keep balance with the frequent supply of new chemicals being delivered by the pot.

http://www.marijuana-addiction.net/

SEE, SH!THOLE-FACE....ANYONE can cut and paste anything, and for every one of your pro-fascist (unknown to you) plugs you cut and paste, most of us can match it with 4 or 5 that will contradict your spewing of horsesh!t!

So get a life, look up facts, and not crap by Larry, Moe and Curly, and prove just one of your blah-de-blah blahs!

Whatta simpleton!
Game, Set & Match, ehhhh _S_?

Mongo Lloyd wrote:

I understand. The "tin foil hat" types have LITTLE courage, many theories, an overabundance of NORML propaganda, and a penchant for trying to look intelligent and self-important.

Holy Bejeesus, Tin Foil, huh? THAT"S my problem...I was using Aluminum foil!

Mendo Local wrote:

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Holy Bejeesus, Tin Foil, huh? THAT"S my problem...I was using Aluminum foil!

I hear they use that INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH, BBQ foil. Make sure it is nice and pointy!

http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/ove...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

DdC wrote:

Damn! They hate American vets too!
Many Veterans are the Enemy of the Bush D.E.A.th War
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php...

Look, punk......you have shot yer wad around THIS board. You can certainly keep on keepin on, but everyone's laughing at you and your (plagiarized) rhetoric.....BWAAAAAA HAAAA! Yeah, sure yer right.

Everyone who thinks drug scum like you need a rest at the expense of the State (CDC), and think the DEA, FEDS or Locals will no undoubtedly CATCH you and provide such accommodations, would be willing to give you up in a flash, and will!

And I can't speak for all, but I AM A VET, you fekkin MORONIC piece O ****!

Its YOUR ilk that promotes division within the peoples of America. Thats why you're lucky that the folks that know you let you stay. In any other country you would have been shot and left dying or dead in a ditch outside of town. Most countries summarily EXECUTE drug-dealing swine like you. And don't rest too easy. Your day in court might be just around the corner!

BWWAAA HHAAAA HAAAAAW HAAAAAWW!

DdC wrote:

Damn! They hate American vets too!
Many Veterans are the Enemy of the Bush D.E.A.th War
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php...

Hey Mongo....ain't that right?

PS....you get this DdC dweebs ISP and IP addy yet?

dopers suck wrote:

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Hey Mongo....ain't that right?
PS....you get this DdC dweebs ISP and IP addy yet?

Every word of it. You covered all bases most tactfully. I commend your honorable efforts! You get today's MONGO SEAL of APPROVAL!

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Nope. Haven't looked into it. Not really worth looking into, for this clown. Not until they start committing actual crimes. I am all about free speech, no matter how STUPID and ILL-INFORMED it is, or PLAGIARIZED.

This fool is just another pro-dope moron, likely looking to protect his profits, spewing history that he has never learned, stealing words from those who actually have degrees, and seeking to become a human. Unfortunately, he has FAILED in that endeavor. In my book, he is merely a coward in a field of cowards. Call him Goebbels.

dopers suck wrote:

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Just one, to prove a point, PINHEAD!
Marijuana Addiction
Marijuana addiction has clear signs and indicators and this page will discuss this in depth. Marijuana addiction is simply an uncontrollable urge to possess and use the drug. Those with marijuana addiction are not able to stop using the drug even if they wish. Often a person with marijuana addiction will make continuous excuses about why now is not a good time to stop using the drug. Such people are not alone. Marijuana addiction is a disease that affects millions of people every year.
There is a good reason why admission to rehabilitation facilities has doubled for marijuana addiction. The potency of the drug continues to get more powerful and studies show that teens can get a hold of marijuana often easier than alcohol. Even those who seek treatment for drugs that are perceived has "harder" like heroin or cocaine will often acknowledge that marijuana is their primary drug of choice.
Marijuana addiction has the same characteristics as any other addiction to other drugs including alcohol, tobacco or even caffeine. The frequent obsession with the drug, thinking about it all the time, where to get it, when to get it, is there enough, is it good enough, will I have the money for more are frequently asked questions. Another trait of marijuana addiction is the physical craving that comes when the body adapts to the drug and begins to develop a tolerance to it. Anyone who has been smoking marijuana for awhile can tell that they must smoke more now to feel the same effect that just a few hits used to produce. It's not about the quality of the weed, it's the bodies defense mechanism as it readjusts to keep balance with the frequent supply of new chemicals being delivered by the pot.
http://www.marijuana-addiction.net/
SEE, SH!THOLE-FACE....ANYONE can cut and paste anything, and for every one of your pro-fascist (unknown to you) plugs you cut and paste, most of us can match it with 4 or 5 that will contradict your spewing of horsesh!t!
So get a life, look up facts, and not crap by Larry, Moe and Curly, and prove just one of your blah-de-blah blahs!
Whatta simpleton!
Game, Set & Match, ehhhh _S_?

Who is REALLY the one who changes their user name quite often, huh? sparticus.mmmmhhhhhmmmm

just asking wrote:
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Thanks for a thoughtful post. Assuming state limits are allowable, what is the harm with being at the state minimum limits? Do you think Dr. Courtney would shy away from recommending more if he thinks it is medically justified?
If not, do you think local law enforcement is interested in seven plants, or that anyone will be subjected to felony arrest for seven plants? Do you think this has happened anytime in the last 20 or 30 years?
Each side has their lunatic fringe and we need to get past that if we are going to get anywhere. I hope you agree the charge that dieing cancer patients will be thrown in prison for seven plants is lunacy. It didn't happen before or after 215, SB 420 or Measure G and it won't happen with B.
Yes, their is a difference between the letter and the spirit of the law. The spirit of the Compassionate Use Act was that persons who choose to use marijuana as medicine (and "caregivers"), with a doctors recommendation, could be free from threat of criminal prosecution for possession and cultivation of amounts consistent with the personal medical use of the patient.
I will grant you that not all commercial growers are alike, but even 50 plants may yield a crop worth over 100 grand. Not bad for a small scale grow that requires no more effort than a vegetable garden.
Is the grower who makes 100 grand or more from their small scale grow in keeping with either the letter or the spirit of the compassionate use act?
By the way, the currently legal amount in Mendocino County pending Kelly is either 6 or it is the personal medical needs of the patient. The 25 plants are either repealed by B or rendered unconstitutional by Kelly. Either way, the 25 plant limit is history.

"just asking"
All of your comments about who's a commercial grower and who's a med grower don't seem to take into consideration that fact that pot is available in every High School, Junior High School and half the grade Schools in the nation. Having pot available in all those schools takes a heck of allot of pot.

The pot is in these schools because the pot industry doesn’t care who buys it as long as they get their money. If I were wrong there wouldn't be all this pot in the schools. None of the Measures, County Laws, State Laws, City or Federal laws say its OK to sell any pot at all.

The pot grown here doesn't stay here. It's shipped out all across the nation. That’s how it gets to the schools and the kids.

Over 99% of the people growing today grow pot for the sake of marketing it and they don't care who buys it. That’s why it's in all the schools.

Way more than half the pot that’s grown ends up in the hand of kids under the age of 18.

The growers don't know or care about the difference between a child and an adult. That’s why the growers think that the problem isn't that growers sell to kids, but that kids buy it from pot from the growers. This type of reasoning is unconscionable, criminal and infantile.

Mendocino County has heartlessly unleashed thousands of greedy, child poisoning drug dealers that are selling their pot to anyone no matter how young they are.

"Medical Marijuana" or smoking pot for health reasons is a lie that is making thousands of drug dealers rich and hurting the educations, health and futures of literately millions of kids.

The growers couldn't care less about the children they are poisoning. The growers feel that because alcohol is hurting kids that it's OK for them to poison kids with pot.

Watcher wrote:

just asking wrote:
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Thanks for a thoughtful post. Assuming state limits are allowable, what is the harm with being at the state minimum limits? Do you think Dr. Courtney would shy away from recommending more if he thinks it is medically justified?
If not, do you think local law enforcement is interested in seven plants, or that anyone will be subjected to felony arrest for seven plants? Do you think this has happened anytime in the last 20 or 30 years?
Each side has their lunatic fringe and we need to get past that if we are going to get anywhere. I hope you agree the charge that dieing cancer patients will be thrown in prison for seven plants is lunacy. It didn't happen before or after 215, SB 420 or Measure G and it won't happen with B.
Yes, their is a difference between the letter and the spirit of the law. The spirit of the Compassionate Use Act was that persons who choose to use marijuana as medicine (and "caregivers"), with a doctors recommendation, could be free from threat of criminal prosecution for possession and cultivation of amounts consistent with the personal medical use of the patient.
I will grant you that not all commercial growers are alike, but even 50 plants may yield a crop worth over 100 grand. Not bad for a small scale grow that requires no more effort than a vegetable garden.
Is the grower who makes 100 grand or more from their small scale grow in keeping with either the letter or the spirit of the compassionate use act?
By the way, the currently legal amount in Mendocino County pending Kelly is either 6 or it is the personal medical needs of the patient. The 25 plants are either repealed by B or rendered unconstitutional by Kelly. Either way, the 25 plant limit is history.
"just asking"
All of your comments about who's a commercial grower and who's a med grower don't seem to take into consideration that fact that pot is available in every High School, Junior High School and half the grade Schools in the nation. Having pot available in all those schools takes a heck of allot of pot.
The pot is in these schools because the pot industry doesn’t care who buys it as long as they get their money. If I were wrong there wouldn't be all this pot in the schools. None of the Measures, County Laws, State Laws, City or Federal laws say its OK to sell any pot at all.
The pot grown here doesn't stay here. It's shipped out all across the nation. That’s how it gets to the schools and the kids.
Over 99% of the people growing today grow pot for the sake of marketing it and they don't care who buys it. That’s why it's in all the schools.
Way more than half the pot that’s grown ends up in the hand of kids under the age of 18.
The growers don't know or care about the difference between a child and an adult. That’s why the growers think that the problem isn't that growers sell to kids, but that kids buy it from pot from the growers. This type of reasoning is unconscionable, criminal and infantile.
Mendocino County has heartlessly unleashed thousands of greedy, child poisoning drug dealers that are selling their pot to anyone no matter how young they are.
"Medical Marijuana" or smoking pot for health reasons is a lie that is making thousands of drug dealers rich and hurting the educations, health and futures of literately millions of kids.
The growers couldn't care less about the children they are poisoning. The growers feel that because alcohol is hurting kids that it's OK for them to poison kids with pot.

Nice post, Watcher. Very thoughtful. I am sure learning alot reading some (not all, haha) of the stuff up here. Especially liked your last line:

"The growers couldn't care less about the children they are poisoning. The growers feel that because alcohol is hurting kids that it's OK for them to poison kids with pot."

transplanted from mendo wrote:

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You ahve my support..... I have to hand to those who grow that know...
and one of those other so called not reporteds WAS reported.. but I know names and the paper doesnt give any out..
just think... "FUCSHIARAMA"....and maybe JUST MAYBE you will smell a greedy grower who cant keep his hands to himself... yes blacks did it.. and every one knows there are no blacks(the locals have another word for it) living in Fort Bragg.... not that type anyway.... hippy blacks, with no more ambitiion than the usual pothead, but not that OTHER type./... you know what i mean

Are you still watching this thread? I really don't know what you mean, but I would like to. I am interested in the original topic of the thread. I know about the Fucshiarama and who that is etc. What are you trying to say "can't keep his heands to himself"? Are "hippy blacks" white rasta types?

Just a fact wrote:

<quoted text>Where do you get your facts? I find this number grossly overinflated.

There are many pot growers just like you who don't want to accept the truth of today's drug influence on kids.

You are in Quantative Company.

Mongo Lloyd wrote:

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Nice post, Watcher. Very thoughtful. I am sure learning alot reading some (not all, haha) of the stuff up here. Especially liked your last line:
"The growers couldn't care less about the children they are poisoning. The growers feel that because alcohol is hurting kids that it's OK for them to poison kids with pot."

And there is never any violence associated with these compassionate medical grows of 800 plants in a residential neighborhood. They never attract dope dealers, drug addicts, tweekers, rip offs. It just does not happen. Got it?

dopers lie wrote:

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And there is never any violence associated with these compassionate medical grows of 800 plants in a residential neighborhood. They never attract dope dealers, drug addicts, tweekers, rip offs. It just does not happen. Got it?

Ah... NOW I see! Got it.

dopers lie wrote:

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And there is never any violence associated with these compassionate medical grows of 800 plants in a residential neighborhood. They never attract dope dealers, drug addicts, tweekers, rip offs. It just does not happen. Got it?

I really hope your being sarcastic.

dopers suck wrote:

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Just one, to prove a point, PINHEAD!
Marijuana Addiction
Marijuana addiction has clear signs and indicators and this page will discuss this in depth. Marijuana addiction is simply an uncontrollable urge to possess and use the drug. Those with marijuana addiction are not able to stop using the drug even if they wish. Often a person with marijuana addiction will make continuous excuses about why now is not a good time to stop using the drug. Such people are not alone. Marijuana addiction is a disease that affects millions of people every year.
There is a good reason why admission to rehabilitation facilities has doubled for marijuana addiction. The potency of the drug continues to get more powerful and studies show that teens can get a hold of marijuana often easier than alcohol. Even those who seek treatment for drugs that are perceived has "harder" like heroin or cocaine will often acknowledge that marijuana is their primary drug of choice.
Marijuana addiction has the same characteristics as any other addiction to other drugs including alcohol, tobacco or even caffeine. The frequent obsession with the drug, thinking about it all the time, where to get it, when to get it, is there enough, is it good enough, will I have the money for more are frequently asked questions. Another trait of marijuana addiction is the physical craving that comes when the body adapts to the drug and begins to develop a tolerance to it. Anyone who has been smoking marijuana for awhile can tell that they must smoke more now to feel the same effect that just a few hits used to produce. It's not about the quality of the weed, it's the bodies defense mechanism as it readjusts to keep balance with the frequent supply of new chemicals being delivered by the pot.
http://www.marijuana-addiction.net/
SEE, SH!THOLE-FACE....ANYONE can cut and paste anything, and for every one of your pro-fascist (unknown to you) plugs you cut and paste, most of us can match it with 4 or 5 that will contradict your spewing of horsesh!t!
So get a life, look up facts, and not crap by Larry, Moe and Curly, and prove just one of your blah-de-blah blahs!
Whatta simpleton!
Game, Set & Match, ehhhh _S_?

Not quite. You sound like a hate-monger to me. What is addiction? A lot of people feel the same way about coffee. Gotta have that morning shot! Should we make it illegal? How about beer? No more nice , cold brewski's! Lets make it illegal too. How about wine. I know people that really want a glass after work to relax. Addiction? It is the fact that it is illegal that created this dangerous market you have, drawing in people out to make a quick buck. Try thinking outside the box for a change. Love thy neighbor!