To lawnorder and DdC - you guys have gotten so into personal attacks and put downs that as representatives for both of your positions , you do your cause an injustice. You are becoming bad advertising for both points of view.
You already know I support legalization but for large scale crops I feel it should be an agricultural crop subject to all the same zoning and regulations that other crops are. I thought many of your non-emotional points were on target DdC (and hemp takes less water than cotton, much less).
Lawnorder, I know the police have a hard job to do. I know it has gotten out of control up there. I know the Mexican cartels are up there now. I know it is big time money and stakes up there now. It's dangerous. It is an artificially created market. Legalize it, erase the big profits, make it safer. Concentrate on the meth labs. Those people get desperate. It is proven to destroy brain cells and cause extreme environmental poisoning when the ingredients are dumped.(Yes, many large growers have done extreme environmental damage but the toxic chemicals of meth labs are absent.) When pot is legalized, growers will still have to follow the ag laws. Let the market "weed" out the good growers from the bad growers and we will have the new Fetzer's or Mondavi's of the pot crop. Prioritize because public monies are tight.
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Ending prohibition is fine with me. The problem here in Mendociino County is that the pro pot lobby wants us to pretend that we can somehow "legalize" pot locally without inviting in wannabe dope dealing bottom feeders from all over the country. We already have thousands who have moved here since Measure G. Measure B just restores some balance and says medical marijuana is fine but we don't want to be the commercial marijuana crime center for the state. ANd why should we put up with the environmental degradation of commercial marijuana anymore than that from meth? One is not better than the other. Both are unacceptable. We are done with looking the other way. Speaking of balance, DdC rants and raves all the time and I make one innocuous remark and you get on my case. But it is pointless to engage with DdC. He keeps constructing and tearing down the strawman of federal prohibition. He could be surrounded by people who advocate an end to federal prohibition and he would still try and convince them to end federal prohibition. |
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I know about the history. Believe me, I am no lover of the owning of America by corporate interests but I hope for a functioning society. Until mankind gains control of it's nastier characteristics like greed, thirst for power, and ignorance, and all humans are on the same page, the best we can do is trying to set JUST laws for all. A government by the people, for the people, and of the people. It would be nice if the USA could get back to that concept vs. by the corporations, for the corporations and of the corporations. The bummer is too, with unregulated large scale growers, I have seen the remains of completely destroyed creek beds, erosion, loss of habitat, the list goes on. Large scale you can't trust that people know what they are doing and the public has a right to know they aren't gonna suffer because a large scale grower screwed up in some way. Anyhow, I'll check out the links. I know of a lot of growers who would not like it legalized either. |
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You and the other Nazi's???? Thats how you try to legitimately debate an issue? You are a worthless piece of bottom-feeding-scum-guzzling trash. You wouldn't know good sense if it bit you on the end of your teeny-tiny ****! Rant about prohibitionists all you want. The truth is, if something GOOD comes along, you won't have to scream and whine and generally act like a rabid pvssy to get your way. Show the people something good, and it'll fly off the shelves. Not only is pot a next to worthless drug in terms of medicinal value, its a thorn in the side of everyone who wants to live in a climate where crime isn't splattered all over not only the local newspapers, but in the case of Mendocino, Nationwide papers! Everytime some BS artist cum grower gets his **** kicked, it makes the news in Buffalo. Everytime some innocent 16 year old gets shot while hiking through what is supposed to be a SAFE national park, it makes the CNN Primetime. Its time to kick the **** out of you baby-crappin whining fukkin criminals, and end this crap once and for all. So, what we do, those of us that support rubber rooms for druggies, is we go to the polls and beat the crap out of you dope fiends everytime you start ****! Get used to it. Your cut n' paste crap is working aginst you. Any idiot with a $40 computer (you!) can find ENDLESS diatribes by ignorant fools who either want to get legally stoned all of the time, or who want to make Bazillions of $$$$ SELLING to morons like you that want to stay buzzed. Its time for you, and the rest of the fabulous furry freak brothers brigade, to get the hell out of Mendocino, before you p!ss off the folks that you are continuously screwing with! Your day is coming. "The Hills are Alive.....With the sound of Music.....and Choppers, and DEA, and FBI, and TASK FORCE. Eat **** and Die, mongrol! |
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You're a rude fek without a lot of clue on board, huh, Bubba? I got yer 'dog' hangin, grapestake! You claim that you can't drink. But you want to get high? Do you have your Promethezine and Codeine cough syrup handy? Hows about your vicodin? Oh....? Don't like those drugs? Why? Because you think that SMOKING A GAS BOMB IS BETTER? What a maroon, as Bugs would say. The reason that No Agency or the people at large will EVER legalize a drug that needs to be smoked, is based simply on the Hippocratic Oath, which, FYI, begins with "Do No Harm!" You CANNOT suck burning gas into your lungs without doing harm. At the very least, lets pretend that there was no negative chemical reaction, whatsoever. You ever hear of BAR-B-QUE? Thats what happens to tissue after you pour enough smoke on it. The list goes on, but your are a blockhead, made from bricks! You will never learn, although, if you get busted enough, and do a number of prison terms, you might just learn that its more fun to stay on the legal side of things! |
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now theres a real cute rationalization...... BTW, blunderduck..... I don't smoke tobacco, or pot, don't drink booze of any kind, don't do drugs, including yer favorite vicodin or any other narcotics, and I eat plenty of fish and veggies. I'm just smarter than you, and theres nothing you can do about it. Except, GROW UP! |
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There is nothing you have posted to show that you are smarter than anyone here. You just insult anyone who doesn't agree with you and present no facts what so ever. While ddc may be hard to follow and gets WAY to upset and insulting as well, at least he tries to make a point and post links to back up what he has to say. He does research. You just call names and offend. You and lawnorder keep sighting ddc's posts and saying this is what pot does to your brain. You are using one person to stereotype a large group. Under this logic, one can look at your posts and assume that all nonsmokers are violent and offensive, which is not true. |
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Oh, Bob.....youre nutz |
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Sorry I offended you by pointing out that your incoherent ramblings are probably related to your self admitted forty years of chronic drug abuse. And all your postings about the evils of prohibition and demonization of marijuana have no relevance today in California because the great majority reject prohibition. The real discussion here is how to lessen the negative impacts from out of control marijuana production. I will point out that you make a very revealing comment when you say you are not a "legalizer." Of course not. You and your dope dealer friends are making too much money by keeping marijuana in a limbo state of quasi-legalization. You oppose legalization because that would blow the profit margin out of the water. |
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love it you sound like you love NOTHING! You are cheering on violence?
you should be in jail under the terrorist act. |
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Think wrote What the hell are you talking about? Lay of the vodka grandma, it's messing with your memory. I've never said anything even REMOTELY like that - and if I have then perhaps you can cite the post?
This is in response to him accusing me of being a gun carrying somethinbg. As far as the rest of this, it continues to be think not ever ever admitting what he alludes to in his blogs he gets confronted and can't respond with logic he starts flinging out all kinds of idiocy! |
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Once again you prove my point. I get your drift but your posts are typically seething with anger and laced with name calling, traits which impair meaning and hinder your message. References to your chronic drug abuse are a burr to get under your thin skin, my gratuitous revenge for your nasty disposition. And it is logical only to you that those who disagree with you are both Commies and Nazis. History and logic require dictate you choose one or the other. Proposition 215 is not legalization. Why extoll a system that forces healthy young people to lie to provide cover for their recreational drug use? Why not work to end federal prohibition and end the charade? Because your grower/dealer friends make too much money off the lucrative illegal trade? You say you quit dealing pot in 1972. You now "obtain" your "medicine" in Santa Cruz and provide it to "patients". Is it given to you? Do you give it to them? If you are collecting money from the "patients" that is selling it. By the way, what is your "medical" condition? Chronic irritability? And how has your medicine helped you? You read like a poster boy for someone in need of anger management. |
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Blah blah-de-fekkin blah de blah blah, etc If anyone ever posts a job notice for an 'inner-voice-prone' cut and paste tech at idiot level wages, you apply......zing........you'll have a new career! Dumb-**** simple tweeker! |
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I dont grow but I bet u r pissing some people off and I bet you are so weak that you could never say any of your idiotic comments to the face of a grower you are no better then the toilet paper I wipe my butt with. |
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this guy has some real mental issues I bet you are a very loanly person with no friends. only a bitter person would spew out such filth. |
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Sorry. Need to interrupt. This "DdC" fellow is quite a punk. If you have something to say... why hide by pasting it here, spamming page after page? Why not say it IN THREAD. The ORIGINAL thread.
I understand. The "tin foil hat" types have LITTLE courage, many theories, an overabundance of NORML propaganda, and a penchant for trying to look intelligent and self-important. That comes from the minimal self-worth they actually feel, as a result of years of drug abuse and neglect. Screw off, loser. Normally, I flame only those who flame me first. This time, I have no problem flaming this meathead. Isn't that what one does to MEAT? Sure it is. Don't give up your day job trimming weed. It is likely the only thing you are qualified for. Watch out for UFOs, government operatives, tracking devices in the chewing gum, and other such nonsense. Hooo weee. Some folks. These DRUGGIES are so STUPID. |
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DdC has learned to cut and paste, Mongo, he's practicing! That is about all he can do honey, there are no brain cells for more...like the little doggy that pisses on the carpet, sometimes it is just best to ignore him. This started out as a Coast man critically injured...wonder if he is still alive...this blog has taken way many forks in the road......
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“IMPRISON DOPERS FOR LIFE”
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I see.:) At least, if the "person" is going to USE quotes, he ought to have the courage to dispute it with those who made them, and not hide them in a different thread. Otherwise, I would have ignored his drivel. Just thought I would post an entry about his cowardly behavior, to set the record straight. Damned NORML spew merchants. Cowards, the lot of them. |
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Yo, DdC: In response to your series of posts (#216-218), once again you prove me right, so I will stand by my original statements.
In the last post, while discussing care giving, you actually sounded reasonable. As for the rest of it, the people can judge who is seething with anger, resorting to name-calling, longwinded, etc. |
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Come on... Ukiah_Mom, time to come clean. What you and your once a drug dealer, always a drug dealer husband do on a daily basis is called breaking the law...and good people will hurt you- for your lies,manipulation and false alligations. Your breaking the law and it is time that you both deal with the consequences. |
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