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Race in the '08 election: Will it matter?

Journalists by instinct tend to hedge their bets, so most don't say in public what they really think.

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Middle Man

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Obama has actually benefitted because he is a person of color. If he were white he would have received a lot more scrutiny on his positions.

Imagine if his name was Barry O’Brien. When you look at his record you discover that he spent 20 years in a white supremacist church and was attracted to neo-Nazi authors and methods. Along the way, he started his political career in the home of an unrepentant abortion clinic bomber and even sat with this terrorist on the board of a right-wing foundation that wasted millions of dollars in the promotion of Nazi ideas. Would we even be having a conversation about his qualifications to be President of the United States?

Now, for Barack Obama, simply insert the words “black supremacist,”“Marxist,” the US Capitol building and American military targets,” and “left-wing” in the above narrative. He is simply too inexperienced, too unaccomplished and too dangerous to take the risk. Please, wake up America, or you will pay dearly for your thirst for “change.”
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Most people wouls say that race plays very little in this election, unless you count Barak Obama's universal support among blacks. It's hard to imagine, due to his distinct lack of experience, that anyone would choose him over McCain, especially since the recent revelation of his fingerprints all over this current housing debacle. Then there's his associations with radical theologians, violent revolutionaries and his links to corrupt "get out the vote" organizations with a record of massive fraud charges up to and including this election. Wholesale theft of votes is not a legitimate remedy to past sins. I'm not sure if anything could say "I'm a racist" more than a minority vote for Obama. My sense is that there is racism aplenty in this election, but the vast majority of it is in the Obama camp. If John McCain and Sarah Palin were both people of color who stood for the things they stand for, people like me would still run to the booth to pull the lever for them. It's really tiring to keep reading and hearing that race only plays a role in white votes. But what ever the media keeps droning on and on about, it's usually a pretty safe bet that the opposite is true.
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"these efforts are being promoted with an under-reported campaign of Obama advertising aimed at the African-American vote."

Who is the racist?
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where's my free cheese man and my free light rail pass bro?
Chicago Bias

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Maybe people just don't believe there is such a thing as "honest Chicago democrat". That is my reason for not voting for him. That system can not operate in honesty anymore that Louisiana's or some other areas of the country.
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I think racism is the most significant reason that Obama isn't winning by an even larger margin. Some lifetime Democrats have reported that they aren't sure if they can vote for a black candidate. And McCain and Palin are fanning those flames - just looks at the anti-Obama fervor in recent Republican ralies. It's frightening and pathetic that racsim is still such a prominent factor in America in 2008.
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LBJ wrote:
It's hard to imagine, due to his distinct lack of experience, that anyone would choose him over McCain...My sense is that there is racism aplenty in this election, but the vast majority of it is in the Obama camp.
It's hard for many people to believe that the once hornorable McCain, the pretend Maverick who's really just another Republican that worhsips at the alter of unregulated capitalism and military adventurism and Palin, the least qualified candidate ever for a national ticket, are even in the game. Yes, Palin has energized the right wing with her homepsun charm, winks and outrageous mistruths but at what cost? Most think she's had a negative effect on McCain's chances.

From day one, the next President has a long list of tasks, thanks in part to massive mismanagement by the executive branch for the past 8 years. We're in a deep financial hole and have lost our standing in the world. It will take a different type of politician to tackle this problem. McCain isn't -- and never was -- this person (and Palin <shudder> should go back to not building bridges and pipelines in Alaska as soon as possible). Thankfully, Democrats rejected the Clintons and chose Obama as the one that might make a difference. Yes, Obama (or "that one" as McCain so designated him in debate #2) offers us the best chance to right the ship.
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Your article says Obama is, "quietly targeting black voters." QUIETLY? You have to be kidding. For starters, have you ever heard of ACORN?
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No way. No How. No Bush/McCain/Palin. Never. Ever.
Rad Rethuglican

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I think the classic example of a related phenomena was the "invisible" support of David Duke in Louisiana, where the percentage of the electorate that voted for Duke was always 20 to 40% higher than the poll results. Translation? Racists don't like to admit their prejudice to pollsters. No real news there. That's why the cowardly KKK wore hoods.
Rad Rethuglican

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Chicago Bias wrote:
Maybe people just don't believe there is such a thing as "honest Chicago democrat". That is my reason for not voting for him. That system can not operate in honesty anymore that Louisiana's or some other areas of the country.
Speaking of honesty, how's your Enron stock doing? "Honest" Ken Lay was a good buddy of Bush. In fact, how are any of your stocks doing? Now, thanks to all the "honesty" in the financial industry, millions of middle America retirees are learning what it is like to be an Enron retiree whose assets were in Enron stock. Too bad we didn't take Bush and McCain's idea about privatizing Social Security to heart and let people put it into the stock market. Hello CDO's. Goodbye retirement.

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Oct 12, 2008
 
Obviously one candidate is counting on race mattering?

Personally, I wonder about the vegetarian vote?
the Loon

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The vast majority of conservative type voters were NEVER going to vote for anyone as liberal as anyone of any race or gender as the Democrats were going to run this year. But, as Bill Clinton clearly pointed out to anyone with enough brainpower to hear what he was actually saying, Obama always represented the possibility that some Democratic voters would not vote for him due to his race. That was the risk the Democrats knowingly accepted.

But, without a single doubt in my mind, this is really an election about a very left wing person running against a somewhat right of center person.
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From what I hear from some, racism is still there. A friend: "I am voting for McCain. I learned in the service that you just cannot trust them (blacks)." I told him some of my best friends were black. That ended any conversation. I feel that if you work along side anyone, you empathize with them and understand that we all have the same concerns and very similar solutions.
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Ol man ran out of townhall - felt the heat.
see him run again on wednesday.

http://www.angelfire.com/ny/awake/electus.htm...

Forgive them they no not what they do, and never
will know for my money.

Its like Jesus all over, kill him excitation.
Hyena and baracude looker are desperate.

McInsane backing off - fearing what the McCarthyite tactic that his/lipstick/wifey
been sowing to unstable electorate chappies
having them scared shi...... about loyal
Council of Foreign Relation partner Sen Lugar
(having been so for a number of years). The
outcome might be having a crazed soul try
to take out our hope for a future that we
all know McInsane being incapable of delivering.

Were the above scenario to pertain then we
can forget about overseas terrorist being
our most pressing concern.

The effect are at play. They'll be more, sadly.

In Florida on Monday, Palin's remarks about Obama and Ayers elicited waves of booing from supporters. One person at a rally shouted "Kill him!" according to a Washington Post report. A sheriff who introduced Palin at a rally referred to the Democratic candidate as "Barack Hussein Obama."

Keep getting spam from FLA villages resident
whose holy holy rants and fear mongering
ravings are so venomous as if they were
raped by (code word muslim for black)
extraordinary brilliant Obama. Oh! yes they
marvel at the numbers of olympic medals
that the us of a gardners time after time
and mostly by whom. holy holy racists are
able to be satanically discriminating.
KIP

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Call me stupid, but I thought the economy and our closing banks were what mattered.
Workaday Oakdale Brother

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where's my free cheese man and my free light rail pass bro?
Probably right next to my farm subsidies and corporate welfare money, Bro.
C A Wren

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To me, race is a non-issue. However, I have greater concerns.

Google: Steve Stoll and Palin.

Extreme? You must judge for yourself.

DO WE REALLY KNOW SARAH?

PLEASE do you own research.

Do your homework.
This Woman Could Become President.
scott dahl

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race should not be a factor.
when it comes to obama a raciest himself ----yes
scott dahl

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rev wright
acorn
bill ayers
joe vesco
acorn
father flager
farakan

obama is a phony and a bum
he could be green---he is still a lieing bum
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