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3 students suspended over Pledge of Allegiance

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Duke

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My grandfather fought bravely in WWII, but he always said he'd personally drive his sons to Canada before he'd let them fight in Vietnam. He didn't believe in all this phony patriotic show. He never talked about his service, except to my grandma, who shared his stories with us after he passed.
The talk on here is the equivilent of people in a sports bar yelling about which team they support in the hockey game that's about to start.
Real patriotism is about loving your country and your community and doing your part to make it better. It has nothing to do with waving flags and the forced reciting of nonsense.
So you think that the pledge and honoring the flag is nonsense?

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Aug 19, 2008
 
Forrest Gump once said "Stupid is as stupid does...".

I have no problem with these children not respecting the flag and, essentially, the United States, as personally repugnant as I might find that.

I do think that, if they are that dedicated to their non-compliant thought process, that they, and their parents, should not get patriotic holidays off of school and work. They should work on Washington's birthday (Presidents day), MLK day, Flag Day, July 4, Thanksgiving, etc.

Let them have their beliefs. I also believe the first missed holiday, they will be whining and crying about how they are "left out".
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So you think that the pledge and honoring the flag is nonsense?
I think that requiring someone to recite a pledge or salute a flag is nonsense. And, being a veteran, I really don't like sunshine patriots.
The Original Kacy

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So you think that the pledge and honoring the flag is nonsense?
I do think it's nonsense. I think it's fake patriotism, like cheering for a football team. You don't need to have a flag hanging from your house or a "support our troops" bumper sticker to be patriotic.
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The Original Kacy wrote:
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My grandfather fought bravely in WWII, but he always said he'd personally drive his sons to Canada before he'd let them fight in Vietnam. He didn't believe in all this phony patriotic show. He never talked about his service, except to my grandma, who shared his stories with us after he passed.
The talk on here is the equivilent of people in a sports bar yelling about which team they support in the hockey game that's about to start.
Real patriotism is about loving your country and your community and doing your part to make it better. It has nothing to do with waving flags and the forced reciting of nonsense.
You are definitely entitled to your opinion, and I'm sorry you feel that way, but I do not believe that saying the Pledge of Alliagence is nonsense. God bless America.

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Real patriotism is about loving your country and your community and doing your part to make it better. It has nothing to do with waving flags and the forced reciting of nonsense.
So very aptly stated!
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More Proud democrats I see.

**** would be soo happy with their performance
The Original Kacy

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More Proud democrats I see.
**** would be soo happy with their performance
I'm sick of republicans thinking they have a claim on patriotism and religion. You don't.
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I'm sick of republicans thinking they have a claim on patriotism and religion. You don't.
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel!
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I'm sick of republicans thinking they have a claim on patriotism and religion. You don't.
If you've got no brains or scruples, waving the flag with verve is a convenient refuge.
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**** would be so proud of these kids
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The Rev Wright

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"not god bless america, but GD america"

soooo proud. No wonder where the kids learn it.

democrats
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I'm sick of republicans thinking they have a claim on patriotism and religion. You don't.
shoe fits wear it.
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Yeah.....patriotism is much more meaningful if it's forced onto someone, and if it's narrowly defined by whether or not you wear a pin or stand up while saying the pledge. I'd hate it if we defined patriotism by how people act to make their country a better place, whether or not they vote, what they do to help their communities, etc. That would be bad, bad.
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Yeah......patriotism is much more meaningful if:

One side attacks their country's leaders while at war,

Encourage fools with no clue to vote by "promising them the world",

Killing off future generations with abortion,

Draining the Economy to support an Education system that doesnt educate too many,

Creating "make work" for 1/3 of the population with Government Jobs,

Calling criminals that enter the country illegaly "Immigrants" and giving them Constitutional Rights,

Making some speech criminal based on the Political Correctness Infestation founded by Feminists,

Revising history so it in no way reflects reality, but better fits the Political Agenda of one side,

Destroying the culture by appeasing every Immigrant groups desire for Diversity.

This is patriotic, I want you on my team!!
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Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel!
Sounds like the rallying cry of a potential traitor!
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major wrote:
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If you've got no brains or scruples, waving the flag with verve is a convenient refuge.
Pay no attention to the man behind the screen ,folks. it's only a Topix staffer

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Aug 21, 2008
 
Do you think 8th graders really even know what it is to be partriotic?? I doubt it. They probably read some stupid article about how other kids sat down during the pledge or about how people question wether it should still be said in school and they thought they would be cool to sit during it. Let em choose wether they want to stand or not. They barely even know what it means. They will learn someday though and then they will wish they would have stood.
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Capt Crunch wrote:
<quoted text>Sounds like the rallying cry of a potential traitor!
I am glad the message resonated with someone. Step right up!
Tank Murdoch

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when the Dems nominate a leader like **** no wonder the little children like robots copy him and hate america
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