Beached boat gets heave-ho from back yard

Tax This wrote:

You need a permit for a gazebo? How absurd!

You need a permit for darn near anything you want to put up on your own property. And then the tax assessors swoop down to see if it's an "improvement" whereupon they raise your property tax.

"The problem is that if you let one person do it, then how do you ever enforce an ordinance?" Nelson said.
Doesn't this point out how ridiculous the ordinance is? What kind of government writes an ordinace that makes you enforce rules against people that aren't causing any harm?

Heywood Ja wrote:

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Go away Rachel, YOU and people like you are the problem. If YOU don't like something, then it just can't happen now can it? And no, I'm not a Liberal, but maybe you are? YOU'RE Just afraid to come out of the Lib closet???

Hayseed, not everyone likes to have a neighbor with a yard full of junk - its trashy. a monsterous boat in a yard? yeah, I think thats excessive.

BackWhen wrote:

<quoted text>You really need to take something to calm you down. It is fairly common to call someone who tries to impose their will upon another, for no good reason, a Nazi. I really don't think it insults anyone's memory. I think you may be a tad bit too politically correct. You also seem to have problem with "republicans" living in Stillwater. Does it bother you that many conservatives have money (that they worked hard for) and can afford to live in affluent areas. I am sure that financial seperation really irks you too. I would call you a communist, but i'm afraid that I would insult someone else. I wouldn't be suprised if you knwew the person that called in about the boat. PUTZ!!

First of all, I have never even seen the boat, so I couldn't call in a complaint. I also don't know the person who did. I wouldn't have complained about it, anyway.

Second, I have no problem with wealthy people, and they are free to vote Republican. I'm sure many of them worked hard for their money, and did so in legal businesses--it's not important. The name-callers who commented jumped to the assumption that it was some icky ol' liberal who complained. Correcting them on the demographics of Stillwater Township doesn't strike me as a "problem."

Third, yes it does insult the memory of the victimes of Naziism (or Communism) to equate telling someone what they may not have in their backyard with Naziism. It doesn't matter if they had a reason that you think is valid--backyard aesthetics scolds are not Nazis. I don't care if it is "common" to call them that, it still demeans the collective memory of those who really suffed. Just ask someone who survived tha camps if they think there is an analogy.

Fourth, name calling is juvenile. Any valid point you may have made is lost in the fact that you come across like a child taunting someone on the playground.

Sarah wrote:

Too bad he can't find out who complained. If he could, then he and his friends could send in complaints about any infraction that the guy has on his property (you can find minor infractions on just about everyone's property).

Minor? you consider this boat minor? Its huge!

I think that if they city delivers a complaint and sanction against you that legally they should HAVE to disclose the identity of the complaintant.

Why do all other areas of justice REQUIRE WITNESSES to come forth. They don't convict people based on a "complaint" and not disclose who witnessed the crime.

I'd get an attorney.

DOWN WITH BIG GOV'T. WE GRANT THE GOV'T RIGHTS, NOT VICE VERSA.

Long Time North Ender wrote:

I'd much rather save the boat and sail Rachel down the Mississippi on a raft! Afterwards we can all have a party on the big boat!!!!!

Yay, then we'll 'rassel' pigs afterwards

Tax This wrote:

You need a permit for a gazebo? How absurd!

You need a permit to BUILD a gazeebo - its just lawless out there in stillwater isnt it.

Rachel wrote:

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Minor? you consider this boat minor? Its huge!

Considering that the boat has been there for 15 years without anyone complaining, it is obvious that the complainer is someone who just moved there.

In other words a city person who wants to live in the country but who wants the same sterile, over-regulated urban life that s/he had in the city. A person who will make an enemy out of every single one of his/her neighbors and won't know why.

People that complain a lot, especially against neighbors and the status of their property, are certifiable control freaks with little or nothing in their own faith. The government becomes wasteful in resources and public polices when people abused the system in order to advanced a secret agenda. That's what I'm getting at from this story: one pathological control freak neighbor in Stillwater township decides to use the city's system to hand in a well-honest neighbor over something that people actually enjoy outdoors.

The boat is not the problem here. The problem relies on bureaucrats running the town and cities with very little aspect of leadership roles; they don't take responsibility and they firmly think that the world is black and white, not gray or color altogether. And much of the neighborhood complaints don't center around neighbors that know you, but from people that have an agenda with no form of moral clarity.

Rachel wrote:

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Hayseed, not everyone likes to have a neighbor with a yard full of junk - its trashy. a monsterous boat in a yard? yeah, I think thats excessive.

Ooohhh, there's a shot. Ouch. Like I said, because you don't like something, NO ONE is supposed to like it right?

I'll bet you are just the ideal neighbor that everyone would love to have living next to them. You sound like the type of person that would move out into the country and then **** that the farm down the road smells too much for your liking so something needs to be done NOW!!

And BTW it's not Hayseed, it's Heywood Ja BL** M*

Sarah wrote:

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Considering that the boat has been there for 15 years without anyone complaining, it is obvious that the complainer is someone who just moved there.
In other words a city person who wants to live in the country but who wants the same sterile, over-regulated urban life that s/he had in the city. A person who will make an enemy out of every single one of his/her neighbors and won't know why.

Well put Sarah. Rachel won't get it though. It's not her fault!!

Attach some wheels-- and call it a trailer-- licensee it as a trailer {home made}and sue them if they touch it!!!

Rachel wrote:

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....hey homer, maybe some people dont want their neighborhood to look like a trailer park.....

My boats are 2 and 3 years old. Approximate value combined $30,000.00 they are not junk.

Doubt it was a pot-smoking hippie lib that called it in. Maybe it was a stuck-up snotty elitist lib. Or maybe a this-infringes-my-property-val ue lib. Does that type of lib even exist? Hmm.

According to the posters, if you hate the boat, your a lib. If you support the boat, then you are a dumb lib.

Interesting. I think I've experienced my "1984" moment of the day.

Rachel wrote:

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Yay, then we'll 'rassel' pigs afterwards

Even when you try to one up someone, you don't quite get it right. The word you were so eloquently looking for is "rassle", and we don't rassle pigs, we rassle "hogs". Why don't you go looking for the "enlightened crowd" who want to be able to raise chikens in their back yards in Saint Paul? It might keep you busy enough to stay off this forum board.

What if you believe in personal freedom? How about the right to store you property on your property? Especialy when the item poses no threat to neighboring citizens? That would not be liberal at all. In fact many would consider that a more conservative approach, less government control. I think that you are the crazy person here and you clearly do not have an understanding of what party you think you support, liberal.

Rachel wrote:

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This person's post unknowingly PROVES it easily seen from the road and looks dumpy. "I drive by that boat every day on my way into work and I like looking at it. Viewing the boat from the road..." If this guy had said he was building Noah's Ark everyone would be screaming for its removal. Just because you LIKE something, doesnt make it okay - crazy libs.

oops, that should read "chickens".

Funy is in the eye of the boholder I don't typically find your responses on here doing the name calling thing funny but I also really don't care if you if choose to. I agree though that people get overly sensitve about crap and we're supposed to be sympathetic to every possible little things that may, gasp, offend someone.
It's annoying, it supresses the freedom of others and it isn't neccessary. If you are offended so be it but don't pretend to speak for others when you don't actually know how they feel, just assume to.

BackWhen wrote:

<quoted text>PUTZ, PUTZ, PUTZ, PUTZ, PUTZ,
Nanny nany boo boo, You are a Nazi Putz!!! There is that childish enough for you?(notice how I use the Yiddish, and the word Nazi together......that could be seen as even more insensitive)
That was funny by the way.....in case you don't get funny.
"collective memory of those who suffed".....I assume you mean suffered....or maybe stuffed, who knows.
Did you learn the term "collective memory" at the U or in therapy?
Elitist, pseudo-intellectual, condescending ****!!! I believe that is better name calling than on the last post. Have a great day. Try not to cry about the holocaust or slavery or some other great historical wrong that is weighing on yours and the worlds social conscience today.
Don't worry, be happy.

Rachel, Rachel,Rachel who died and made you queen?
Remember what go's around comes around. grass to long call the city dog barking call the city extra car in the driveway call the city