Dad gets 30 days in hunting death

I cannot believe the censors edited out the word
d i c k w e e d
Very interesting what they can catch!
Once again bugs, have a great night

ZenBirdist wrote:

Let's say the little boy was not even there. Let's say the man had been busted on private land, hunting out of season, and doing so under the influence of alcohol and pot. What would have been the sentencing for those infractions of law? Would they add up to 30 days?
I'm with Sarah D on virtually everything she's posted in this thread. It's a tragedy that the little boy paid for his dad's poor choices with his life. I'm just very curious as to how much weight the judge put on the father's grief as a mitigating factor in sentencing.

Zen, I would bet anything that it DID factor in.
As it should, just like lack of remorse should also.
The judge most likely considered things that people assume to be truths that are not.
Such as many have said "he was drunk and high".
No, he had traces in his system. Big difference.
In most trials we are lucky if 50% of true facts are even allowed in court. In the media, they make up whats missing from pure imagination,lol.

I know this guy. His son and my son were in several sports together in New Prague. My first mpression of him was he one of those that thought the rules did not apply to him. Unfortunately, I was right. He had a drug conviction in the late 90's, did he learn his lesson then---no. Has he learned his lesson now--probably. Five years from now is he going to remember that lesson? I doubt it.

speedy wrote:

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I have watched this thread with interest since my post. I respect those who disagreed with my opinion, because, like me, they have thiers.
You, on the other hand, are just an insulting ****. It so happens my name came from my auto racing career, and I have a large family quite happy and healthy and well adjusted.
Oh, just a side note to you personally, proof read your replies. Even in the 3rd grade my kids knew enough to capitalize thier I's, and they also knew how to spell "your".
I am sure a private tutor could assist you with sentence structure and spelling if you can stop spewing filth long enough to learn.
Have a wonderful night!

Thank you for your constructive criticism..Our critics are our friends for they so us us our errors.Exactly what filth did i spew?

again you are correct,I should have proof read before posting
"Our critics our friends for they show us our errors."

I do not know what the judge thought but here is some info to chew on.

I did some interesting research that surprised even me. I looked at the Uniform Crime Rate and conviction rates by counties in MN.

The overall number of homicides in Minnesota is slightly higher was it was in 1977 (116) and in 2006 (125), when we had 2/3 the population. The number or homocides in Ramsey County is actually less now than in 1977. All murder is wrong and bad, so these numbers justify nothing.

Ramsey County crime rate is 3-tenths of one percent higher than Sibley County over the last five years based on population. That is crimes against person or property (not including traffic tickets or curfew issues).

If you commit a felony crime in Sibley County you are more likely to get probation or time served than jail than if you were in Ramsey County.

Lastly, if you go in front of a jury in Ramsey County you are more likely to be convicted, than a jury in Sibley County. Could not find any information, if just in front of a judge.

The above information was gathered from the BCA, Judicial Center at Minnesota Planning, and FBI data.

My thoughts are he got what he got, because Sibley County's lack law enforcement, below average prosecutors, and is part of judicial district with complaints (and acknowledgments) about judges giving preferential treatment to friends. This is just another form of preferential treatment or political decisionmaking.

No matter what is going on in the world,
the one place, that a child can go, to feel safe and secure, is with their Mom or Dad.
I truly believe, he violated that rule.

speedy wrote:

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Zen, I would bet anything that it DID factor in.
As it should, just like lack of remorse should also.
The judge most likely considered things that people assume to be truths that are not.
Such as many have said "he was drunk and high".
No, he had traces in his system. Big difference.
In most trials we are lucky if 50% of true facts are even allowed in court. In the media, they make up whats missing from pure imagination,lol.

I used to believe that the remorse (or lack of) that a person shows should be a large consideration in sentencing. My opinion now is completely different.

After watching probably too many televised trials, I started to realize that it is impossible to accurately determine what is in the heart of the accused. I am not qualified to interpret another person's behavior, certainly not when people show emotions in various ways. Not to mention that many people are quite capable of acting begrieved when the situation calls for it, while others in shock may seem flippant or callous.

There's also inherent in our humanness the subconscious preference to beauty that may sway a jury, even minutely, in its deliberations.

And let us not forget the thunder and fury generated by lawyers whose financial livelihoods rest on how well they can sell their side...

Good arguments, all, for keeping the "sorry factor" out of it.

As to the assumption that Mr. Klasseus was drunk and stoned, you may very well be right that he only had traces in his system. I don't know that; I haven't seen in the news what his BAC was or if he was high the morning of the incident. I can accept as fact that he brought along his young child to trespass and poach. That's why I wonder what the sentencing would be for those particular infractions of law without the additional drinking/smoking issue.

Again, though, my heart is with the family and community that lost a bright young star. The attention thus far has been on the father's grief. I don't discount his sorrow, but I feel worse for everyone else whose lives are now absent the little one they loved so much, and those who never will get to know the boy named Hunter.

Zen