House approves stem cell measure

Ronald and Nancy Reagan opposed embryonic stem-cell research too--until Ronnie died from Alzheimers. Then all of a sudden Nancy supported it. Why does it take someone's personal tragedy to open their eyes to science instead of religious zealotry and ideology?

I'm glad to see stem cell research being pursued by Minnesota. It's the cutting edge of science and the next step in curing todays maladies. And now that they can harvest stem cells without endangering fetuses, the primitive religious screwheads can sit down and shut up.

The liberal elite will not stop until they control EVERY aspect of our lives and set all the rules. It is a call to arms to get them out of office in Nov.

If it were up to Pete we'd still be using leaches and blood letting. Calm down, sir, this is harmless and a very important medical advance.

whatever wrote:

If it were up to Pete we'd still be using leaches and blood letting. Calm down, sir, this is harmless and a very important medical advance.

Fine and dandy, but why do our tax dollars have to pay for this controversy?(embryos being involved).

Same as our tax dollars paying for abortions for women who couldn't keep their legs closed. And, I'm not talking about rapes, I'm talking about those that feel a baby is inconvenient.

Because it benefits us all (I'm not talking about the abortion issue...that's a whole new can of worms).

Hello:
I actually kind of agree with you on the abortion issue, now that I think of it. I'm pro-choice, but I think the people involved should have to pay for it...not the government. Or, if the insurance companies want to include it, I guess I can't argue with them.

Pete wrote:

The liberal elite will not stop until they control EVERY aspect of our lives and set all the rules. It is a call to arms to get them out of office in Nov.

I assume that you are referring to PawTy as "the liberal elite" as this article truthfully and factually states: "Pawlenty sent a letter to the Legislature in February encouraging support for adult stem cell research, stating that it creates 'ample opportunity to work toward lifesaving cures without crossing moral and ethical boundaries.'" Perhaps, PawTy will need to go against his, as you post "liberal elite" self and veto this bill (which must be vetoed for the reasons below posted) inorder to further his national ambitions but as you post "to get them out of office in Nov". Hooray for Rep. Laura Brod, R-New Prague who understands that "the divisive political debate over stem cell policy is behind the times, because researchers are finding more and more discoveries with adult stem cells.

'We don't have to have this be a wedge issue anymore,' she said.'Science has outpaced politics in this case.'"

Furthermore, "Prof. Catherine Verfaillie, University of Minnesota Medical School in Minneapolis, and her team have all but settled the debate by identifying an adult cell that can grow into any other cell type. "It's an extraordinary thing," says stem-cell expert Austin Smith of the Center for Genome Research in Edinburgh, who has criticized some earlier studies. It is clear cut we have adult stem cells that do not kill life, and do not cause: tumors, have tissue rejection, or genetic instability. For adult stem cells, there are more than 70 treatments and cures. No one has been cured by using embryo stem cells. Cure list from adult stem cells:# Brain Cancer # Retinoblastoma # Ovarian Cancer # Skin Cancer: Merkel Cell Carcinoma # Testicular Cancer # Tumors abdominal organs Lymphoma # Non-Hodgkin?s lymphoma # Hodgkin?s Lymphoma # Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia # Acute Myelogenous Leukemia # Chronic Myelogenous Leukemia # Juvenile Myelomonocytic Leukemia # Chronic Myelomonocytic Leukemia # Cancer of the lymph nodes: Angioimmunoblastic Lymphadenopathy # Multiple Myeloma # Myelodysplasia # Breast Cancer # Neuroblastoma # Renal Cell Carcinoma # Various Solid Tumors # Soft Tissue Sarcoma # Ewing?s Sarcoma # Waldenstrom?s macroglobulinemia # Hemophagocytic lymphohistiocytosis # POEMS syndrome # Myelofibrosis Auto-Immune Diseases # Diabetes Type I (Juvenile)# Systemic Lupus # Sjogren?s Syndrome # Myasthenia # Autoimmune Cytopenia # Scleromyxedema # Scleroderma # Crohn?s Disease # Behcet?s Disease # Rheumatoid Arthritis # Juvenile Arthritis # Multiple Sclerosis # Polychondritis # Systemic Vasculitis # Alopecia Universalis # Buerger?s Disease Cardiovascular # Acute Heart Damage # Chronic Coronary Artery Disease Ocular # Corneal regeneration Immunodeficiencies # Severe Combined Immunodeficiency Syndrome # X-linked Lymphoproliferative Syndrome # X-linked Hyper immunoglobulin M Syndrome Neural Degenerative Diseases and Injuries # Parkinson?s Disease # Spinal Cord Injury # Stroke Damage Anemias and Other Blood Conditions # Sickle Cell Anemia # Sideroblastic Anemia # Aplastic Anemia # Red Cell Aplasia # Amegakaryocytic Thrombocytopenia # Thalassemia # Primary Amyloidosis # Diamond Blackfan Anemia # Fanconi?s Anemia # Chronic Epstein-Barr Infection Wounds and Injuries # Limb Gangrene # Surface Wound Healing # Jawbone Replacement # Skull Bone Repair Other Metabolic Disorders # Hurler?s Syndrome # Osteogenesis Imperfecta # Krabbe Leukodystrophy # Osteopetrosis # Cerebral X-Linked Adrenoleukodystrophy Liver Disease # Chronic Liver Failure # Liver Cirrhosis Bladder Disease # End-Stage Bladder Disease Cure list from embryo stem cells: NONE see:http://www.stemcellresearc h.org/facts/treatments.htm

Oops! In my previous post, I left out that PawTy changed his position, as this article shows, where on the campaign trail, PawTy pledged to support "'all types of stem cell research, adult stem cells and human embryonic stem cell research,' says Kaufman."

the democrats don't care about medical research - they care about abortion on demand. That's what this is about. The reason they the love embryonic stem cell is because it helps to justify their blind allegiance to the abortion lobby. And they BELIEVE in abortion.

don't blame me, those are your democrats.

Tybalt wrote:

the democrats don't care about medical research - they care about abortion on demand. That's what this is about. The reason they the love embryonic stem cell is because it helps to justify their blind allegiance to the abortion lobby. And they BELIEVE in abortion.
don't blame me, those are your democrats.

Tybalt-YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

It is against Gods will to do stem cell research or have abortions. The doctors and researchers are sinners and shall be punished by the Lord! People should not play God. We should accept the fate for which God has bestowed upon us and live our days honoring our creator. Those of you that support the killing of innocent babies should be ashamed of yourselves!

I believe in abortion and this ain't it! It also is NOT killing a "Person"..just using CELLS to improve lives. A person is not a person until it can live outside the woman. AND...I would rather give my tax money to this than to:
illegal aliens
legal aliens who come here and expect handouts
or lazy assed poor women who don't want to work and stay home with kids.

The Democrats in the house voted, bill passed by a slim majority. Pawlenty said he would veto the anti-life measure. No override is possible. Bill is dead.

Before the Democrats can screw up our lives any more, how about a motion to adjourn.

Do you even know what you're talking about?

My son was diagnosed Type 1 diabetic in grade school. His insulin and supplies cost over $700/month, and that doesn't even include hospital visits for complications and routine medical procedures.

Without these, he dies. Stem cells are very promising to cure this disease. You can add up over billions of dollars in medical costs to this thing and not even get into the human suffering and costs.

He was born with this - didn't choose it. What's that got to do with crossing legs?

The only people profiting from this is the drug companies because they have a capitve audience who would otherwise die without insulin and other medications.

If stem cells will cure it once and for all, it's well worth the investment.

Currently the U.S. Army is funding research using stem cell in hopes it will heal wounded soldiers.
http://news.rutgers.edu/medrel/news-releases/...

Since President Bush signs defense spending authorization bills, that implies he approves of at least some federally funded stem cell research.

Mary wrote:

It is against Gods will to do stem cell research or have abortions. The doctors and researchers are sinners and shall be punished by the Lord! People should not play God. We should accept the fate for which God has bestowed upon us and live our days honoring our creator. Those of you that support the killing of innocent babies should be ashamed of yourselves!

I suppose you also agree that God intended for that couple in Wisconsin to watch their daughter die from untreated diabetes. Do you have any notion what an awful way that is to die?

First, the person starts starving to death because their body cannot produce insulin which is required to convert food into something the body can use. Once that happens, the body starts burning fat reserves in order to sustain itself, throwing keotones off as a byproduct. These in turn cause the body to become toxic, poisoning the untreated diabetic.

The person slowly, with agonizing internal organ pain and nausea and vomiting, slowly staves and gets poisoned to death. They eventually fall into a coma and die.

Good luck with your god.

Mary wrote:

It is against Gods will to do stem cell research or have abortions. The doctors and researchers are sinners and shall be punished by the Lord! People should not play God. We should accept the fate for which God has bestowed upon us and live our days honoring our creator. Those of you that support the killing of innocent babies should be ashamed of yourselves!

That's ridiculous - are you actually claiming to have knowledge of God's will? There isn't, to my knowledge, anything in the Bible that prohibits abortion or stem cell research. We can make the claim about "not killing", but given what the bible says it's not entirely clear that abortion is not allowable. Adam, when fully formed, wasn't "alive" until God breathed into him. Thus, you have evidence to support the idea that fetuses aren't people until they breath on their own.

Or, we can go down the "God has a plan for everyone" route, but that goes back to actually knowing God's will (which seems impossible). The question then becomes, how do you know it wasn't God's will that someone have an abortion? God has required different forms of sacrifice to teach lessons before (if we think the Bible is accurate), so why can't it be the case that it's in "God's plan" for abortions to occur?

Additonally, we shouldn't forget that their ARE prohibitions against what you have done here. "Judge not lest ye be judged" and "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" etc.

There are many claims about how the "left" wants to control your life, but I fail to see how this kind of action is any different.

Mary wrote:

It is against Gods will to do stem cell research or have abortions. The doctors and researchers are sinners and shall be punished by the Lord! People should not play God. We should accept the fate for which God has bestowed upon us and live our days honoring our creator. Those of you that support the killing of innocent babies should be ashamed of yourselves!

so your understanding of "your" all powerful God is that stem cell research is against his will. why doesnt he strike down all people that participate in the research then? or why did he give us the ability this out?

or maybe what the problem is that "you", not your God, are against this research. I love when people try to state they are on the same level as God. Only one shall Judge, and that person is not you.(btw, your god is not everyone elses god)

We all know that god approves of stem cell reseach if it's used to procure oil from the middle east. I think it's in the book of BS. Seriously, though, stem cell reseach was so far beyond the comprehension of the men who originally interpreted christianity that any religious opinions on this subject are just that...opinions. People have the right, though, to believe what they want. I don't fault christians for adopting this belief as part of their constitutionally protected religion, but the republican's are the ones that should be ashamed for choosing religion over science. Republican's would hold on to a lot more credibility if they simply kept to their economic values and leave the christians to their churches.