Michelle Obama: Families struggling? 'My husband gets it'

Bruce wrote:

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Using your logic you probably have trouble feeding yourself.
Name calling and stupid responses seem to be your specialty.

I point out the flaws of your lame defense of Cindy McCain and that's all you've got? I now pronounce you Loser, just like McCain will be on Nov. 4th.

Darwinian wrote:

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As I said, ACORN is required BY LAW to turn in ALL the registration forms it receives, even the ones that are fraudulent. Because of this requirement, ACORN separates out and flags the registration forms that appear to be phony. What else should ACORN do? Try to suppress the votes of eligible citizens just because they are poor, members of minorities or likely to vote Democratic?

That is what they say. A number on Ohio voter registration workers said that is not what they got.

Listen to something other that a press release.

For at least the last 8 years, ACORN has known they were collecting large numbers of fraudulent forms. They clearly do not care. And you can not tell me they are required to submit a card with Mickey Mouse on it. Grow up.

Rad Rethuglican wrote:

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I point out the flaws of your lame defense of Cindy McCain and that's all you've got? I now pronounce you Loser, just like McCain will be on Nov. 4th.

I guess it's official then, since you proclaimed it.

And by the way, that was the best you could come up with? No wait, I can answer that.

Get a life wrote:

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What the H E L L were you reading? Didn't even come close to replying to the poster. Typical liberal hack.

The poster stated that he or she did not believe in using tax dollars to benefit people who do not work. The unemployed, along with people who are retired and people who are too young to work, benefit from government services funded by tax dollars - hence, my question.

Didaskalos wrote:

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What you're overlooking here is that the leftist ACORN "registrars" are culpably complicit in *manufacturing* the legions of "voters." Witness the identical handwriting/signatures on many of their fraudulent submissions.
Michael Ramirez understands the quintessential Obamaphiliac ethos of ACORN: http://www.investors.com/editorial/cartoons/I...

ACORN hires people and pays them by the hour to register voters. It seems some of those employees were perpetrating fraud on ACORN when they filled in voter registration forms with fake names.

Darwinian wrote:

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The poster stated that he or she did not believe in using tax dollars to benefit people who do not work. The unemployed, along with people who are retired and people who are too young to work, benefit from government services funded by tax dollars - hence, my question.

Unemployment is paid for by deduction from the wages of people when they do work and retirement benefits are at least in theory based on what workers paid into. These are not hadnouts to people who refuse to work.

What an absurd arguement.

Bruce wrote:

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That is what they say. A number on Ohio voter registration workers said that is not what they got.
Listen to something other that a press release.
For at least the last 8 years, ACORN has known they were collecting large numbers of fraudulent forms. They clearly do not care. And you can not tell me they are required to submit a card with Mickey Mouse on it. Grow up.

"Collecting" isn't the right verb; "manufacturing" is.

"Although the organization prides itself for its registration efforts, it also has a long history of scandal. In the state of Missouri in 1986, 12 ACORN members were convicted of voter fraud. But that case was not an isolated incident in the state. In December 2004, in St. Louis, six volunteers pleaded guilty of dozens of election law violations for filling out registration cards with names of dead people and other bogus information. Authorities launched an earlier investigation after noticing that among the new voters was longtime St. Louis alderman Albert “Red” Villa, who died in 1990. The volunteers worked for “Operation Big Vote”— a branch of ACORN — in St. Louis.

"On February 10, 2005, Nonaresa Montgomery, a paid worker who ran Operation Big Vote during the run-up to the 2001 mayoral primary, was found guilty of vote fraud. Montgomery hired about 30 workers to do fraudulent voter-registration canvassing. Instead of knocking on doors, the volunteers sat at a St. Louis fast food restaurant and wrote out names and information from an outdated voter list. About 1,500 fraudulent voter registration cards were turned in.

"In October 2006, St. Louis election officials discovered at least 1,492 “potentially fraudulent” voter registration cards. They were all turned in by ACORN volunteers.

"In November 2006, 20,000 to 35,000 questionable voter registration forms were turned in by ACORN officials in Missouri. Most all of these were from St. Louis and Kansas City areas, where ACORN purportedly sought to help empower the “disenfranchised” minorities living there. But the ACORN workers weren’t just told to register new voters. The workers admitted on camera that they were coached to tell registrants to vote for Democrat Claire McCaskill.

"In 2007, in Kansas City, Missouri, four ACORN employees were indicted for fraud. In April of this year eight ACORN employees in St. Louis city and county pleaded guilty to federal election fraud for submitting bogus voter registrations.

"And, that was just Missouri."

Darwinian wrote:

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ACORN hires people and pays them by the hour to register voters. It seems some of those employees were perpetrating fraud on ACORN when they filled in voter registration forms with fake names.

When it happens over and over it becaomes a pattern that becomes proof of organizational incompetence if not outright conspiracy to commit fraud. Some states are considering prosecution under racketerring laws.

This woman is a complete fraud.

Bruce wrote:

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Unemployment is paid for by deduction from the wages of people when they do work and retirement benefits are at least in theory based on what workers paid into. These are not hadnouts to people who refuse to work.
What an absurd arguement.

The unemployed benefit from police and fire protection, safe water, roads, public education, and so on - a lot more than just unemployment and retirement benefits. What, about that, is so hard for you to understand?

Darwinian wrote:

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The unemployed benefit from police and fire protection, safe water, roads, public education, and so on - a lot more than just unemployment and retirement benefits. What, about that, is so hard for you to understand?

I don't think anyone objects to paying a fair share of those things that benefit all of us.

Getting elected based on class warfare and wealth distribution if really pathetic.

Paying someone who could work but will not harms all of us.

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This woman is a complete fraud.

And that's why Colin Powell just endorsed her husband, right? Is your handle "East Side Monky" or East Side Honky? It's kind of hard to tell.

Bruce wrote:

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Clinton (or any President was responsible for for a technology boom?
Sounds like Al Gore inventing the internet. Government does not drive business, all it can do is get in the way. And the only reason Clinton didn't do more damage is that as soon as we (the country) saw what he and Hillary were trying to do, we elected a Republican majority in the House and Senate to keep them in check.

hey dip-$h*T....

ever hear of ARPA-NET?

It was the pre-cursor to the internet, in the 1980s it became public for universities and then shortly after than for everyone to use. The internet (the orginal net) was created by the government for the military...

It wasn't until the mid 90s that it became a commercial endeavor...

The same can be said for commercial air flight, computers in general, the cell-phone, radio, and much more...

Business get's the OK from the FCC and the CIA to let technology go public...

It is all regulated by the government, and in most cases invented through government funding.

Business just sells it.

You are a complete fool if you think business brings forth innovation... the cellular communications and energy generating capabilities of the current USA technology are now years behind most of the developed countries.

If it was up to business, you would NEVER get the latest new gadget... you will constantly be buying upgrades.

I used to work at Motorola 6 years ago. I had the chance to use phones that to this day... are still unreleased and considered "classified"

In a Murtha world, US Generals in war are evil and not to be trusted or believed.(think General "Betrayus)

Until they retire and endorse ****. Then they are honorable and believable.

Spread the Wealth around...



"It's not that I want to punish your success. I want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success, too. My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody. I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

---Senator Barack Obama to Joe the Plumber.



"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened"---- Norman Thomas, six-time Socialist Party presidential candidate and one of the founders of the ACLU

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
You had better think twice before you vote for this guy.

Owl Gore wrote:

Spread the Wealth around...
"It's not that I want to punish your success. I want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success, too. My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody. I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."
---Senator Barack Obama to Joe the Plumber.
"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened"---- Norman Thomas, six-time Socialist Party presidential candidate and one of the founders of the ACLU

The housing market crisis shows that no one has had our back the last couple of years. While painting Obama as a socialist is far from the truth, I think most folks are craving a positive change that even this scare-tactic isn't working. People do not want life as we know it to continue.

You can continue to paint Obama as a socialist and it'll continue to backfire. The more you and others claim that he's a socialist, more people will see the tactics of the Republicans and wish for anything but the past.

Mellers wrote:

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The housing market crisis shows that no one has had our back the last couple of years. While painting Obama as a socialist is far from the truth, I think most folks are craving a positive change that even this scare-tactic isn't working. People do not want life as we know it to continue.
You can continue to paint Obama as a socialist and it'll continue to backfire. The more you and others claim that he's a socialist, more people will see the tactics of the Republicans and wish for anything but the past.

Hear hear, Mellers! I'm as tired as you are with these people grasping at straws. Why would anyone wish to continue the path we're on, it's beyond me. I guess frustration and financial stress becomes comfortable after eight years of living it, and change, though a positive possibility, becomes scary and painful. Forgive my crude comparison, but approximately have this nation has something akin to 'battered woman syndrome'. They hear there's a better way, but they are leary of the transition and what might happen if they break free from the current tyranny.

that would be approximately *half this nation* though that number is shrinking daily

McCain in your membrane