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Souvenir swords get two expelled

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#123
Apr 24, 2008
 
What the blank wrote:
I know someone who went on the trip.
If you talk to any student who went on this trip, they will tell you that:
1. Students signed a form saying they would not purchase weapons and agreed to the consequence.
2. They lied to the principal of the school and to customs and said they were something else. Trying to sneak weapons back into the country is a big crime.
If the students bought and shipped these swords back home, they wouldn't have gotten in trouble.
It stinks that they got expelled, but the fact that they lied about it shows me that they did something wrong.
How can this be so, if they were sent home early because of buying the swords? That doesn't make sense.
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#124
Apr 24, 2008
 
Disgusting behavior on the part of the schools.
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#125
Apr 24, 2008
 
I guess they learned these youngns some common cents.
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#126
Apr 24, 2008
 
I'd like to know if there was an agreement that souvenirs such as swords were prohibited from being purchased.
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#128
Apr 24, 2008
 
And some people want to entrust people like this with National Health Care? This principal is the best reminder of what an officious government is like. Of course no one at those schools can safely say a word-their kids would be penalized too. I hope the next time there's a vote the parents get off their asses and actually vote them out.
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#129
Apr 24, 2008
 
This is very important information. It's very irresponsible reporting to leave out such an important part of the decision making process. The reporter has wrongly opened the adults up to the ridicule of the world. I think a follow-up story is in order.

A school trip is pretty much the same as school -- students have to uphold the rules the same as if they were at school. They did something knowing that if they were caught they'd get in trouble.

So now they are missing six weeks of school. I really don't feel that bad for them.
What the blank wrote:
I know someone who went on the trip.
If you talk to any student who went on this trip, they will tell you that:
1. Students signed a form saying they would not purchase weapons and agreed to the consequence.
2. They lied to the principal of the school and to customs and said they were something else. Trying to sneak weapons back into the country is a big crime.
If the students bought and shipped these swords back home, they wouldn't have gotten in trouble.
It stinks that they got expelled, but the fact that they lied about it shows me that they did something wrong.
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#130
Apr 24, 2008
 
Now is the time to stand up and tell the school that if these kids were ever a problem before THEY WOULD NEVER BEEN ON THIS TRIP!!! Wake up people! If you can't have anything like this on School Grounds, get rid of any Art class that needs special tools. Get rid of Home Economics. Look at all the knives and other things in cooking class. Get rid of wood shop. Do you see that this was just plain stupid on the school boards part. Nothing was done about the stolen property. The swords never made it it to Minnesota. What happened to them? What did the thief do with them? And where is the money that was never returned to the victoms of this petty crime committed by an adult on a child.
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#131
Apr 24, 2008
 
Typically, and I assume in the case of this trip. The districts standard permission forms are used. These forms outline weapons, drugs and alcohol in the document. Students and their parents are to have read the form... and I believe there is a spot for both to sign. While I have not had a student on these out of the country trips. I have always been concerned about what it takes to chaperone and make sure the students are using good judgement all the time. This may have been a poor decision on the students part but I am more concerned about how this impacts these students' futures.
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I'd like to know if there was an agreement that souvenirs such as swords were prohibited from being purchased.
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#132
Apr 24, 2008
 
Apple Valley HS? wasn't that the same school that had an illegal immigrant living IN the school and it took them MONTHS to figure it out?

BRILLIANT! nothing gets past them.
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#133
Apr 24, 2008
 
mine wrote:
More idiocy form liberally educated school administration.
You've seen their educational credentials?
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#135
Apr 24, 2008
 
Darn Dirty Liberals wrote:
Those darn law and order liberals are at it again! They always DEMAND strict enforcement of brightline policies. It's their bread and butter really. Conservatives on the other hand are all about case by case determinations and factual inquiries.
It's just crazy to think that even though we sensible conservatives have been controlling the federal government in one form of another since 1994 those darn dirty liberals still control everything! Gosh if only we controlled both the presidency and congress for a significant period of time to allow us to implement our grand plan of reasonableness! Oh one can only dream of that day…….
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#136
Apr 24, 2008
 
If you really know somebody that went on the trip, then get your story straight-the kids never lied to customs because the swords were confiscated *in* the UK. I'd like to know what the principal did with the swords. You also claim that if the students shipped the swords home they would not have gotten into trouble. Do you know if that would be true? Wouldn't it technically still violate zero tolerance.
What the blank wrote:
I know someone who went on the trip.
If you talk to any student who went on this trip, they will tell you that:
1. Students signed a form saying they would not purchase weapons and agreed to the consequence.
2. They lied to the principal of the school and to customs and said they were something else. Trying to sneak weapons back into the country is a big crime.
If the students bought and shipped these swords back home, they wouldn't have gotten in trouble.
It stinks that they got expelled, but the fact that they lied about it shows me that they did something wrong.
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#137
Apr 24, 2008
 
mary wrote:
I hope that the board members all wear neckties. That way they will have something to use to pull their heads out of their butts.
WHAT ?
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#138
Apr 24, 2008
 
St Paul mom wrote:
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How can this be so, if they were sent home early because of buying the swords? That doesn't make sense.
talking about the blank note, my sibling did sign saying that they were not to drink, use drugs and etc. but it does not say that they would not buy a weapon that was securaly sealed in a box to be shiped home. One said it was a parasol. Well she has ADHD and the thought of something so cool for her dad for a FATHERS DAY present was to much. And how did this person find out??? I thought the school said this information was secured.(p.s. sorry for some misspelled words. im 13)
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#139
Apr 24, 2008
 
Jane wrote:
If you really know somebody that went on the trip, then get your story straight-the kids never lied to customs because the swords were confiscated *in* the UK. I'd like to know what the principal did with the swords. You also claim that if the students shipped the swords home they would not have gotten into trouble. Do you know if that would be true? Wouldn't it technically still violate zero tolerance.
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Just one more thing to awnser one of your guys questions. The principal handed the swords over to the police for some weird reason??
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#140
Apr 24, 2008
 
BillB St Paul wrote:
When I count to five with my very young grandau, I start at one then go to two then three, etc. So these young people bought swords in UK and how were they going to get them home ? That would be like #2,3 and 4 and are missing. They would have had to ship them. No way were they going on the plane. AH maybe they were going to use them there... See we need the missing parts. Now if they were bought legally and shipped legally then how could the school be involved ? Ok how about the rest of the students who had a beer while there ? Same rules eh ?
ok im really starting to get good at these replys now =) I can asure you they had no plans what so ever to use them. P.S. check the star trib they are making a story on it to.
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#142
Apr 24, 2008
 
What the blank wrote:
I know someone who went on the trip.
If you talk to any student who went on this trip, they will tell you that:
1. Students signed a form saying they would not purchase weapons and agreed to the consequence.
2. They lied to the principal of the school and to customs and said they were something else. Trying to sneak weapons back into the country is a big crime.
If the students bought and shipped these swords back home, they wouldn't have gotten in trouble.
It stinks that they got expelled, but the fact that they lied about it shows me that they did something wrong.
Excuse me What the blank but how do you know all of this? and trying to sneak weapons in the school? give...me a break they were going to ship it home. and besides using a sword? more easier ways then that. and they never got to customs. they turned them over to the police at the hotel. And that form never told them about the purchase of swords. Please get your sources correct these are very much mistaken.
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#143
Apr 24, 2008
 
What the article failed to mention is that the students that went on the choir trip signed an agreement to not posess weapons during the trip. Buying weapons was a violation of that agreement.
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#145
Apr 24, 2008
 
Non-liberal wrote:
Liberals. The liberals are to blame for this too. If the American people would just wise up and stop electing liberal Presidents, we wouldn't have these kinds of problems and our lives would be perfect.
Those students were obviously planning to use the swords in our Holy Crusade in the Middle East. Methinks those two educators would be helped by several dozen leeches attached to their brains.
sorry but your comment was a little fuzzy to me. So what are you saying? they should be harrshly punished or not? i would just like a little clarification
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#146
Apr 24, 2008
 
Herr Ober wrote:
Well nobody needs these things, they are bought by rich kids who want to make some sort of crazy message I guess. Fact is these darn things are made in Asia cheap and sold for big bucks but are for sale right here in Minnesota.
let me tell you something that that was very sterotypical comment. Only rich kids? what are you trying to say?? only people with money were allowed to go on this trip???? what i will say is that it was not your ridicously priced item. it was a souiveneer, cheap, inexpensive and not ment to endanger other people. it was a replica.
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