Image of abortion is being manipulated : The Morning Call Online

"The line "a woman's right to her body'' is used so often."

Yeah, that's because that's what it is. Maybe the Morning Call should stop using language like "a woman's right to vote" or "a woman's right to not be owned by her husband".

"If democracy works by open discussion of opposing ideas and policies, the liberal, anti-Catholic Morning Call has handcuffed, blindfolded, gagged and hog-tied the conservative voice."

Oh, I'm sorry. I was under the impression that "conservatives" (up until recently) controlled both houses of Congress, the White House, the Supreme Court, the legislatures of a majority of states, the governor's mansions of a majority of states, the broadcast rights to every major network, and the political dialog of this nation. With all that control, they stopped the open discussion of oppsing ideas and policies, labeled the opposition as "liberal", called anyone who had a differing opinion "anti-Christian" and "anti-American", and handcuffed, blindfolded, gagged, and hog-tied the moderate voice.

Not that I'm agreeing with your sentiment that the Morning Call is "liberal", but since you seem to think that it is... how does it feel?

-pb

Stay on topic. Whose choice? Why the murdering of the innocent unborn? Some of you can be so obtuse.

Both of you in post prior to mine seem to want to blather about anything but the topic at hand. Taking an unborn life is wrong, period. What part of that do you not recognize? Talk about disrespecting the least amongst us...what does that make you? Now shoot back with more "begging the question" arguments.

Wow. You're pretty special to think that a WHOLE ENTIRE Newspaper is against you and the Catholic faith. Sorry, but that comment made no sense. There are OTHER Christian sects that are anti-abortion other than the CATHOLICS.

I really don't want to make this a religion thing, but I have a question... why does it seem that Catholics do not recogonize other CHRISTIAN religions as CHRISTIAN? We believe in the same God, Jesus, the resurrection... what's the deal?

Why do certain people use the word "innocent" in front of the word unborn in every pro-birth post?

Why use the word "murder"?

I posted the definition of the word murder the other day. The definition specfically includes the words "specifically covered in law". Since the law currently allows for the termination of a fetus, it cannot legally be called murder.

What is the purpose of using these words? Well, actually I know why.

What about the life of the mother whos life is in danger because of a pregnancy? Oh sure, it is ok to protect the unborn but not the mothers live? I don't agree with abortion used as a means of birth control but don't the women who are in danger have a choice in saving their own life? The latest decision takes all that way again.

Oh yeah....illiminate the death penlty folks because that is murder anyway you cut it too. Musrder is murder! Be consistant!

good perspective

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,859...

Evangelical Christians scare the daylights out of me. They complain about government interference in their lives and then demand the courts restrict what everyone can read and watch, who they can love and what medical procedures an individual can choose.

Yes, I understand that this letter writer thinks abortion is murder. If that is how she feels, I fully support her right not to choose one.

What she needs to understand is that not everyone shares her opinion. The pro-birth crowd needs to learn to respect that other people have a right to their own views.

Otherwise we'll left asking "Why do Christians hate our freedom?"

steve-2304 wrote:

Why do certain people use the word "innocent" in front of the word unborn in every pro-birth post?
Why use the word "murder"?
I posted the definition of the word murder the other day. The definition specfically includes the words "specifically covered in law". Since the law currently allows for the termination of a fetus, it cannot legally be called murder.
What is the purpose of using these words? Well, actually I know why.

You didn't have to ask. Because aborting the unborn boy or girl is plain murder. No matter how you candy coat with words like "choice" and "woman's suffering" and "risk" and "unwanted."

Randy wrote:

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You didn't have to ask. Because aborting the unborn boy or girl is plain murder. No matter how you candy coat with words like "choice" and "woman's suffering" and "risk" and "unwanted."

Then I pray to God that you or anyone in your family ever has to chose between the mother and the babys life. No one should have to, but it does happen. No one should be killed for their beliefs but it does happen. This is not a perfect world. It never will be. I just hope you are consistant. Killing of any kind is murder then. Otherwise, your words hold no value.

Please excuse, I just noticed a typo in my last post... it should have read:
Then I pray to God that you or anyone in your family NEVER has to chose between the mother and the babys life.

Randy wrote:

You didn't have to ask. Because aborting the unborn boy or girl is plain murder. No matter how you candy coat with words like "choice" and "woman's suffering" and "risk" and "unwanted."

So tell us, what other laws currently on the books do you choose to ignore because you don't agree with them?

steve-2304 wrote:

Why do certain people use the word "innocent" in front of the word unborn in every pro-birth post?
Why use the word "murder"?
I posted the definition of the word murder the other day. The definition specfically includes the words "specifically covered in law". Since the law currently allows for the termination of a fetus, it cannot legally be called murder.
What is the purpose of using these words? Well, actually I know why.

You are consistant ...and wrong again. Murder is not solely a legal term, and the difference between a legal execution and an abortion is simply that in the second case the victim is truly "innocent". Maybe this accounts for the term being used. Why do you call it the "termination" of the fetus when going from alive to dead is DEATH?

Paswede wrote:

What about the life of the mother whos life is in danger because of a pregnancy? Oh sure, it is ok to protect the unborn but not the mothers live? I don't agree with abortion used as a means of birth control but don't the women who are in danger have a choice in saving their own life? The latest decision takes all that way again.
Oh yeah....illiminate the death penlty folks because that is murder anyway you cut it too. Musrder is murder! Be consistant!

If the only exception was in the case of the woman whose life was truly in danger, abortion clinics would be cobweb factories.

taksavillage wrote:

<quoted text>If the only exception was in the case of the woman whose life was truly in danger, abortion clinics would be cobweb factories.

Abortions for which a mother's life is in danger are carried out in the hospital not in an abortion clinic.