Compare George W. Bush's popularity ratings to Congress'

Old Gator wrote:

Ah, our virtual village idiot has once again leaped like a decerebrated plague locust to the defense of his beloved simian President with the gutter approval ratings. Yes, Hey Middling America, with six solid years of a Republican majority and a Republican administration to go with it (never mind for the moment that it has been ostensibly lead by a drooling imbecile), it's all the Democrats' fault that we haven't completely polluted our Gulf coastline yet. We already know that you can't punctuate or spell; let's see if you can count the seats in congress between 2000 and 2006 and explain how the loyal opposition managed to stymie all the grand plans for world dominance the Chimp brought to Washington from his playpen in Austin.
Perhaps the Republican congress was just waiting, along with its corporate wh*remasters, for the nitrates, assorted fertilizer runoffs and other industrial waste drizzling down the river systems while the Bush EPA hung out at the World Series of Poker to finish off the fisheries and kill the swimmin' areas with dinoflagelli and bacteria. That way, there wouldn't be a lot of protest by the time they started punching holes in the sea floor, since there was nothing to lose anymore. Or perhaps they were waiting for Bush's Smarter Younger Brother (comparatively speaking - which ain't much) to leave office with his shoplifting wife and the daughter he drove to dope so he wouldn't become collateral damage.
Who knows? One thing the Lake Worth Lamebrain read somewhere and repeated here as if he thunk it up hisself, though: if the Democrats had half a backbone and a quarter of a brain between them, we wouldn't be here having this ridiculous conversation about the desirability of shooting ourselves in the environmental foot yet again.

you are a complete moron...every time anwar was brought up the demonratz filibustered it...but more important is you typically "forgot" 9-11 and completely negate it's effect on anything...that seems to be a trait of you smug but still stewpid "pseudo-intellectuals "...pollution from oil drilling accounts for about 3% while over 60% occurs naturally...a real intellectual would know that and you obviously don't... and you call w an imbecile (pot kettle thing)...it is humorous to watch you try to mask your ignorance behind your "dictionary talk"... you are comparable to the clint eastwood movie "josie wales"...when clint was talking to the old lady and she said "all that fancy talk ain't doodly"

gator the smug LIEberal wrote:

"Oh, yeah - and let's see who's got anything intelligent to say about this corn ethanol fiasco"

you notice that he doesn't have anything intelligent to say...like other "critics" (self proclaimed)...he will talk down everything someone else says but offers nothing in the way of an intelligent idea of his own...most likely because he has nothing intelligent to offer

HEY MIDDLE AMERICA wrote:

gator the smug LIEberal wrote:
"Oh, yeah - and let's see who's got anything intelligent to say about this corn ethanol fiasco"
you notice that he doesn't have anything intelligent to say...like other "critics" (self proclaimed)...he will talk down everything someone else says but offers nothing in the way of an intelligent idea of his own...most likely because he has nothing intelligent to offer

Can you give us an intelligent answer to the simple question: Has George W. Bush EVER done ANYTHING you disapprove of? If so, WHAT?

Or is the question too complicated for your little atrophied mind to grasp?

WPB wrote:

Congress' approval rating was nearly as low for all those years the R's had total control of it. It sank lower out of frustration with the R's blocking every effort to undue the damage. Congress is still about 48% R, and not much can change until it's less than 35%, which should take place in seven months.

Try again congress has a 9% approval rating .

Gasoline has doubled on Ms nancy's promise to lower the cost .

They are for all intents and purposes non functioning and should be recalled immediately by a lack of confidence vote of the American people .

This should happen before the election , we cannot seat a President without a functioning congress .

Poor dimwitted Hey Muddled America seems not to have been able to figure out that when I mentioned ethanol, I was criticizing the Democrats. Apparently it's too difficult for our little virtual village idiot to connect one post with the one that preceded it. Apparently, also, he's missed (or chooses to ignore) all of the discussions Rick Caird and I have had about what's wrong with the ethanol program and how to fix it on a variety of other threads. Oh, and another thing, moron: fillibusters are part of parliamentary procedure, but you'd like to make them sound conspiratorial. Thank Buddha that the Democrats did fillibuster those idiotic attempts to wreck the Gulf of Mexico ecosystem for yet another profit grab by the oil companies that wouldn't have lowered the price of gas by a single cent anyway. If Cheney and his cheap thugs in expensive suits had emerged from their sewers with a sane and progressive energy plan, instead of another crate of candy for their oil company wh*remasters, the fillibusters wouldn't have been necessary. What's really kept us from keeping ahead of the energy crisis isn't the Democrats, jellyfish that they are, but one-dimensional free marketeering ideologues like you. Every time I come back here from abroad, where I've been riding 250-mph trains, natural-gas powered buses, streetcars and personal vehicles (Australia had natural gas engines available for private cars fifteen years ago), I have to endure the third-world rattletraps running on our roads and rails. And why have we slid back so far? Because selfish boneheaded atavistics like Hey Mediocre America think the "free market" should determine what kind of transportation systems we have here, while "big government" programs and incentives - like the ones that have most of western Europe and Japan decades ahead of us in energy policy - represent some kind of paranoid "collective" intrusion on our freedom to remain utterly backwards by comparison. Well, giggle on while you keep scrounging for scapegoats for the disaster people like you have brought upon us, you ignorant, illiterate clown. Enjoy your ride down the drain of history - because that's where you rats-arses are taking this country.

Republicans are Scum: I dare you to name a single topic that Hey Piddling America's stunted so-called mind IS big enough to grasp. But don't sprain your frontal lobes trying to come up with one, okay? It's easier to solve a unified field equation. Also, don't use words like "atrophied" when addressing Hey Muddled America. You'll be accused of memorizing the dictionary - all the ten or twelve words that he thinks are in there, in fact.

Also, try to remember that he's just a dumb kid who spends all his time at his keyboard because, apparently, no one will let him play baseball with them.

Nancy Pelosi has been a failure, as she has shown no backbone to the President. To blame the housing market and economy on the democrats is absurd for even a so-called journalist like Sorenson. It's pathetic how these so-called journalists spew propaganda like it's nothing. Forget the truth -- the truth in writing means nothing. Being a true American used to mean something beyond party politics -- like honesty. Even when Nixon failed, the entire nation accepted it. Now that Bush has failed miserably, party politics dictate that someone like Sorenson must to adhere to Republican talking points. We used to shrink at Soviet-style propaganda and yet we accept it instead of shunning crack writers like this.

Old Gator wrote:

Rick - we'll have to agree to disagree about that. My premise here is that Republican reps also had large constituencies opposed to offshore drilling and had to watch their steps - especially here in Florida, where Jeb was prudently unsupportive of as well. It's a given that Clinton would have vetoed it; my point was that during the six years of Republican administration and congressional control, nothing got done. I would also blame that joke of an "energy policy" that the Cheney working group produced, one that was so lopsidedly weighted in favor of continuing our petroleum addiction that it even embarrassed Republicans. If it had recognized and encouraged much more work on solar, wind and geothermal energy - not to mention investment in hydrogen-power technology - there would have been some negotiating room across the aisles. Something might have gotten done. As it was, nothing did.
But as you know, there's not much for which you could criticize the Democrats that I'd disagree with. It seems like I wake up every morning to another inane comment by Pelosi or some dithering neither-either by Reid that makes me want to tunnel under my dog and try to get back to sleep/

Oh, I agree there was no push for coastal drilling when gas was at 2 bucks. It wasn't worth the fight and there was little to win.

This came off a Schwab report I was reading last night:

"Meanwhile, oil-supply growth (which had been averaging 1.4% per year) slowed to near zero during the past two years. While on-hand inventories remain ample, the market has apparently extrapolated supply and demand trends well into the future, as often happens in burgeoning economic bubbles. When geopolitical risks are added into the equation, and with Iran—the world’s fourth-largest oil exporter—potentially in Israel’s gun sights, the timing of a top in oil prices becomes even more uncertain."

It is the "near zero" oil supply growth that has changed the outlook. Demand is clearly outrunning production. In the short term a world wide pullback is reducing demand, but that is only short term.

I am going to point you to two blog entries from a guy who is a libertarian small business owner, not prone to hyperbole, and pretty much fact based:

http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/07...

http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/07...

The first one talks about shale oil and the second one talks about wind and solar. The comments on the second one are particularly interesting.

Like you, I am not at all happy with government in general or either party in particular. It just seems like they are all too busy looking for partisan advantage and ignoring what we have actually hired them to do. They forget they are "hired hands". Rather than worrying about which party has control, we ought to be worrying about how to get new blood up there to actually address the problems that government can address. If they aren't going to do that, please just stand aside and let us work it out. No rational person would favor corn ethanol at this point, so we need to get rid of the mandate. So far, no movement at all on that in Congress.

Rick

Of course the nation is polarized. The two party system is the culprit. One party wants to take from the middle class and give it to someone else and the other wants to take from the middle class and keep it for themselves.Everyone has their preferences as to who is going to rip them off.

Txp1 wrote:

<quoted text>I guess in So Florida, a D grade is something for parents to celebrate

Most kids coming through the school system can not even spell "D".

Lets vote again wrote:

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Try again congress has a 9% approval rating .
Gasoline has doubled on Ms nancy's promise to lower the cost .
They are for all intents and purposes non functioning and should be recalled immediately by a lack of confidence vote of the American people .
This should happen before the election , we cannot seat a President without a functioning congress .

You're proof that many lunatics are at loose on Topix boards.

I wasn't aware the Speaker of the House had any power to affect oil prices. It went from $1.45 when Bush took office to over $4.15 today.

Is that Pelosi's fault??

You are entitled to your ignorant opinion, but not your own facts.

Facts are, Bush said:

>>>>>Bush came in talking about jawboning the Saudi to reduce gas prices and energy independence.
"What I think the president ought to do [when gas prices spike] is he ought to get on the phone with the OPEC cartel and say we expect you to open your spigots...And the president of the United States must jawbone OPEC members to lower the price." [Gov. George W. Bush, 1/26/00]

So what has our oily President been able to do??? The Saudi's laughed at him when he begged for more oil. Some leader.

Now this is a funny thread.

A bunch of idiots saying that the reason congress has a nine percent approval rating is because of .....
you guessed it.....GWB!

Bush derangement syndrome is real folks!

Rick - thanks, these do look interesting and well-documented (for a change). I'll look them over before responding - though I'm going to be on my way to New York this PM so it may take me a day or two to get back to it.

But here's a quick question, and I haven't been able to read anything that explains - or even tries to explain - what I'm curious about: why are fuel prices that are dragging down a deeply layered and complex economy like this one seeming to have no comparable effect on the much thinner, and one would expect more vulnerable, economies of the "emerging" giants like India and China whose demand is ostensibly driving the price increases? I gather they're paying the same prices that we are - if not more, given how much more they would have to pay for refined products until they get their own refineries up and running? Something about this just doesn't seem to make sense. What do you think?

Quinn: be careful with that straw man you just built. It'll catch fire right in your face. Few if any correspondents on this blog have blamed Bush for congress' approval ratings; they (and I) blame his own appalling ratings on his and his administration's own appalling incompetence and stupidity. And yes, Bush Derangement Syndrome is real - you can detect it easily every time the Chimp opens his mouth. One of the symptoms, as expressed by the Dim Bulb in Chief himself, was the fact that his mouth is a place where words go to die. This results when the brain and the mouth are not properly connected to each other, one of the most visible symptoms. However, there's no evidence that the syndrome is contagious; it is apparently spread only by direct contact with the vector or his ideology.

Zonker wrote:

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You're proof that many lunatics are at loose on Topix boards.
I wasn't aware the Speaker of the House had any power to affect oil prices. It went from $1.45 when Bush took office to over $4.15 today.
Is that Pelosi's fault??
You are entitled to your ignorant opinion, but not your own facts.
Facts are, Bush said:
>>>>>Bush came in talking about jawboning the Saudi to reduce gas prices and energy independence.
"What I think the president ought to do [when gas prices spike] is he ought to get on the phone with the OPEC cartel and say we expect you to open your spigots...And the president of the United States must jawbone OPEC members to lower the price." [Gov. George W. Bush, 1/26/00]
So what has our oily President been able to do??? The Saudi's laughed at him when he begged for more oil. Some leader.

Congress has voted repeatedly not to allow exploration ,increased production at the hands of the environmental lobbyists who are firmly in the grips of Dems .

do some home work and learn something before you put other people down .

Your swift judgement of me says you will fail to do either .

why according to all the libs Bush has stolen all of the oil from Iraq ! He keeps it in the freezer at his home in texas .

Lets vote again wrote:

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Congress has voted repeatedly not to allow exploration ,increased production at the hands of the environmental lobbyists who are firmly in the grips of Dems .
do some home work and learn something before you put other people down .
Your swift judgement of me says you will fail to do either .
why according to all the libs Bush has stolen all of the oil from Iraq ! He keeps it in the freezer at his home in texas .

So please explain why nothing was done while the Republicans had the White House, Senate, and House from 2000 through 2006???

Instead of dealing with the oil problem, Bush decided to invade Iraq and attempt to steal seniors Social Security.

My swift judgement of you came from your ignorant remarks, like this;

>>>why according to all the libs Bush has stolen all of the oil from Iraq !<<<

I've never heard anyone but Bush supporters say that. Please provide a link to support your allegations.

Kind of puts you in with the liars, doesn't it??

Old Gator wrote:

Rick - thanks, these do look interesting and well-documented (for a change). I'll look them over before responding - though I'm going to be on my way to New York this PM so it may take me a day or two to get back to it.
But here's a quick question, and I haven't been able to read anything that explains - or even tries to explain - what I'm curious about: why are fuel prices that are dragging down a deeply layered and complex economy like this one seeming to have no comparable effect on the much thinner, and one would expect more vulnerable, economies of the "emerging" giants like India and China whose demand is ostensibly driving the price increases? I gather they're paying the same prices that we are - if not more, given how much more they would have to pay for refined products until they get their own refineries up and running? Something about this just doesn't seem to make sense. What do you think?

The third world economies such as India and China have been subsidizing the oil. But, the prices have exceeded what they can subsidize and so the prices are starting to rise there too. The populace is quite unhappy about it.

India is building, what I think is, the world's largest refinery. The real hook is that it will process high sulfur content oil. Think Iran.

Rick

I'm even more sick of hearing the word bush, than clintin and obama combined..mccain too

Zonker wrote:

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So please explain why nothing was done while the Republicans had the White House, Senate, and House from 2000 through 2006???
Instead of dealing with the oil problem, Bush decided to invade Iraq and attempt to

steal seniors Social Security.
My swift judgement of you came from your ignorant remarks, like this;
>>>why according to all the libs Bush has stolen all of the oil from Iraq !<<<
I've never heard anyone but Bush supporters say that. Please provide a link to support your allegations.
Kind of puts you in with the liars, doesn't it

BUSHY actually said in a news conference a while back.."we cant leave all that OIL"...

Zonker wrote:

<quoted text>
So please explain why nothing was done while the Republicans had the White House, Senate, and House from 2000 through 2006???
Instead of dealing with the oil problem, Bush decided to invade Iraq and attempt to steal seniors Social Security.
My swift judgement of you came from your ignorant remarks, like this;
>>>why according to all the libs Bush has stolen all of the oil from Iraq !<<<
I've never heard anyone but Bush supporters say that. Please provide a link to support your allegations.
Kind of puts you in with the liars, doesn't it??

No !
It puts you in with the blind and ignorant .

There are so many threads on topix that do nothing but accuse Bush of going to war for the Oil in Iraq , now I do not completely disagree with that statement until they add that He is and Cheney are getting rich off the oil from Iraq .then I have a huge problem with the statement .

The Republican Senate did not run on the platform of lowering oil prices , mainly because oild was very low then If you do not believe me check the cost of a barrell of oil during the time frame you set out .

The Dems ran on lowering prices gas Here was 2.25 or so a gallon then in 2006 .

one only need realize that Nancy promised reductions and today we have 5.00 a gallon gas . doubled in just under two years .

the dem congress continues to ignore the voice of the people and obstruct the use of our own resources in the united states to relieve the speculation from unreast in the middle east , we remain tied to a 700 million dollar a day payment to terrorist nations who seek out distruction .

Now go do your home work and do some real research and stop listening to what is being proclaimed from the steps by a failing obstructionist congress .