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WEIRDO wrote: <quoted text> You are an idiot....but this part is true.Dem's do appear to have no loyalty-to anyone.Any port in the storm-kinda like a wh*res. Where was the Republican loyalty to Lowell Weicker? When Lieberman won his senate seat against Weicker it was to the right of Weicker and the republicans were glad to see him go. There was no loyalty there. So from a position of leaning to the right to going further still to the right, the Democratic electorate that was paying attention realized that Joe Lieberman had very little in common with core Democrat beliefs. They decided to choose a real Democrat to represent them. It had nothing to do with loyalty. If you have a beef it should be that the Democrats have pretended that Joe is still a one of them except for one issue. This is so that they can keep control of the Senate. With this 60 vote rule that really doesn't matter a whole lot except who gets the bigger office.
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Pete wrote: Republicans = bigotry, greed, intolerance, religious fanaticism, arrogance, and specially ignorance! No - sounds like you.
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babooph wrote: All politicians grovel to Israel-Joe just shows it more. lieberman doesn't grovel to israel, lieberman makes sure that other politicians grovel. he shepherded mccain around israel, making him grovel nicely.
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Chip wrote: Joe showed his true colors in 2000, when he ran for both VP and the Senate at the same time -- god forbid he not be in power! I voted libertarian for senate that year, because I just could not bring myself to vote for a republican from Waterbury. This time around, Joe's actually representing the people that put him in office -- Republicans. The democrats had already sent him packing when he lost the primary to Ned Lamont. I find it really funny that they voted for a guy they spent years bashing........you get what you vote for. republicans voted for warmonger lieberman bec they thought that supporting this illegal war was the patriotic thing to do. poor brainwashed creatures
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Shoreliner wrote: <quoted text> You nailed it. The Democrats of today is a very narrowly defined party. If a Congressman is not an extreme liberal and march lock-step with the dictates of Moveon.org and others,(s)he is 'outed' by the Dailykos, Huffington Post, MediaMatters, et al. as not a true Democrat. There is no place for JFK and Scoop Jackson in today's Democratic Party. The fact of the matter is that with the exception of the war on terror and Iraq, Senator Lieberman votes with the Democrats. That is why this is so silly. But, it should be a message to all voters that the extremists, who control the Democratic Party, are not interested in winning the war on terrorism and by extention protecting all Americans. ah, oh wise one, if it is so silly to refuse to see that lieberman is really a democrat bec he agrees with democrats on everything other than the minor issue of war, why is lieberman himself supporting mccain?
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JOHN ROWLAND wrote: Joe wants to kill Muslims. Got a problem with that? If they are terrorists, no problem.
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Vicky
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I really wonder why more people don't react the way Lieberman has. Things have just been so intense and partisan, if you've got a sense of humor you've got to be absolutely dying in Washington these days. Things keep getting stupider but woe betide the person who points that out! And since when does the good of the "party" trump the good of the nation?!
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Joe for President wrote: I am Republican. If Joe runs for president, I will vote for him. A man who has the guts to go against his party because of principle is a man I want for president. Not Obama, not Kerry, both of whom are flip floppers for political expediency. sweetie, he is willing to go against his party, bec he is doing what he thinks is best for israel, that is american military presence in the middel east. 100 years of war mccain is definitely the man for lieberman. if that should happen to bankrupt the US, well so be it. and lieberman knows there are enough airheads to buy the patriotic claptrap. be patriotic, support war.
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mzmarlena wrote: Joe Lieberman tell it as he sees it and knows this is not going to get him elected...Jews are not all rich nor are they a population minority. He is trying to show and tell you that there are few Jews in the world..anywhere in this world. There are lots of Muslims..Billions of them. Do you think Muslims are not helping the Muslims (including the Palestinians, by any name, Hezbollah, Hamas, PLO, Fatah, bin Laden, Terrorist, Jihadist, CAIR, etc.). Think...where did Hezbollah and Lebanon get the tanks and the spy equipment and technology in the last war? Why were so few Israelis killed? Well so few Israelis killed because they built bunkers to protect their populace, including the Christians and the Muslims and the Jews. These bunkers had mini-Hospitals,etc. They didn't keep their civilians in harms way. They did it to protect the people they love. Hezbollah fought from civilian areas as Muslims do...they do not care to protect their people..they have enough to spare, it is the Muslim way. Remember they are one and they are a mighty and oil rich group. Please remember they are OIL RICH. And they are many. oh thank you mizz marlena, here i was thinking it was the israelis who went pillaging through lebanon, dropping thousands of clusterbombs, who were killing the lebanese. now i find out it was the muslims killing muslims because they don't care about themselves.
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Vicky wrote: And since when does the good of the "party" trump the good of the nation?! When Republicans got control of congress back in the 90's. The Republican congress pursued a president (Clinton) for lying about a question no one should have been asking. When he sent missles into Afghanistan and Sudan the Republican congress claimed he was just trying to divert attention. They allowed the outing a US spy to advance their agenda. They turned their head and allowed a president to increase presidential powers to wage war, spy on own people, torture.... In other words they have laid the ground work for a dictatorship to arise in this country because the guy laying the ground work was "one of them". That doesn't mean that the dictator that arises will be.
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JOHN ROWLAND wrote: Joe wants to kill Muslims. Got a problem with that? Then HE should do it! Got a problem with that. And if you think that it is such a great idea, how come your post isn't from Iraq?
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Lee K wrote: Obama did not campaign for Lieberman in 2006. He, like Kerry, Dudd, Clinton, Kennedy, etc, etc, all endorsed and campaigned for Lamont. Obama had used Lieberman as his mentor in the first two years in the Senate, and turns around and stabs Joe in the back during Jpe's campaign. So now Joe supports McCain and Obama and the Dems get upset? sweetie, do you realize that lieberman lost the democratic primary?
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Bairn of Ecgtheow wrote: Lieberman is a brave man to stand up for what he believes in a polarized nation that thinks in black and white terms. It would be so nice to get the parliamentary form of government into the US so that third parties would have a bigger say. It would reduce our polarization. I feel like my votes for Libertarians are futile in or system, but I will still fight for those who take complex views across party lines. how complex is it to to do whatever you think is good for israel? it seems things are pretty simple for lieberman. he thinks war is good for israel, that is if americans fight it. mccain wants 100 years of war. of course, that's where lieberman will give his support. anything but complexity here
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Mac wrote: <quoted text> Then HE should do it! Got a problem with that. And if you think that it is such a great idea, how come your post isn't from Iraq? John Rowland's post is from Waterbury, which is as close to Iraq as you want to see in CT!
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Old Gator wrote: This nonsense about "intolerant" Democrats amuses me. Look, the guy embraces a war that the vast majority of his constituency rejects, and his constituency votes for someone else. This is "intolerance"? I always thought that was the gist of a free electoral choice. If Lieberman had any integrity, he would have switched parties and run as a Republican. Instead, he expectorated contempt for the voters and the organization that had supported him and made possible his career for decades and turned his back on them. If Lieberman's real concern is Israel, fine. But if the people he represents disagree that it's great to bleed ourselves white economically and sacrifice thousands of our own men and women on its behalf - or, more accurately, understand that perpetuating a disastrous war that plays into the hands of Israel's enemies - they have every democratic right to let him know it. Calling this "intolerance" is utter manure. excellent, but so pathetic that so many can't see this on their own and keep blathering aobut intolerance.
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Quisling LIEberman is the poster child for Connecticut to allow recall petitions for elected officials.
Absent the recall, let the Repugs in DC put up with Drama Queen Joe. The first time he doesn’t toe the line on a party vote, they will Jesse Jackson him and kick out to the Capitol Curb!
The only thing that is Centrist about Joe is where he sticks his head in his own stinking behind.
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I just want to say I'd like to return to Connecticut, hopefully with open arms and no hard feelings about the income tax. I think now you all realize now it was much needed and helped the state in many ways. Many of you think of it as a "slush" fund only to line the pockets of out state legislators but this is not true. I am working with Jodi right now in hopes of starting a pothole tax on oil changes.Sincerely your friend in the "Nutmeg State Lowell.
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Pat Paulsen
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Let me just say that i too am running for president, you all remember me. I was on the Smothers Brothers comedy show and also did those nifty Mobil gasoline drive your engine clean ads.....My favorite was when I brought my car motor into the chinese laundry, and the china man says, you get thet otta here or I call a powiceman an he give you a twicket! Ha ha ha ha ha. Then i used to do the bird watching skit with the hostess twinkie.... remember and I say this pocket here has a snap on it. So's you can put your snack in it and the bird won't get your Twinkie, ha hah ha. Any way vote for me in 2008 and dont be late!
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“Waterboard Bush & Cheney!”
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Pat Paulsen: as a matter of fact, I attended your "presidential debate" with Godfrey Cambridge at the University of Miami in 1968. No one else showed up, and Howard the Duck wasn't running that year. In any case, whereas it lacked some of the intensity of the Buckley-Vidal debates, I will never forget something that you said during one heated exchange: "America is still the only country where any little boy can grow up to be president. And if he never grows up, vice president." By the way, was that you running under the pseudonym of "Ron Paul"?
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“Waterboard Bush & Cheney!”
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Mac: yeah, I have a problem with that. This planet needs more racially or religiously motivated violence from any direction like it needs another Cretaceous-Tertiary meteor strike.
DeLauro: fact is, Lieberman was a pretty solid moderate to liberal voter for most of his career. His big divergence from the Democrats was his support of the war. The fact that he'd help empower a president who stands for just about everything he voted against in his career to keep the war going is evidence of how deeply committed he is to Israel. The problem is, he isn't helping them at all by keeping the pot boiling over there. And with this economy on crutches over this horrible war of lies and greed, and worse to come, he sure as hell isn't helping us much either.
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