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Will Obama win the White House? - Sentinel & Enterprise

Now that it seems certain Sen. Barack Obama, barring some catastrophic occurrence, will be the first African American to carry a major party banner into the presidential election, will he persevere all the way ...

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Depressed in the Burg
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May 15, 2008
 
bottom line... Black man...Running against white man.. Leaves us with no hope...Just for four more years of lies and bulls---!

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May 15, 2008
 
McCain has been portrayed as "Bush on Steroids" and
"4 more years of the same"....
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May 15, 2008
 
It is a shame that this newspaper continues to carry editorials that only reflect the papers ownership, and not the paper's readership. The paper has no real editorial staff to speak of - at least not one that has managed to be objective and/or understand the big picture. Perhaps they should try running editorials out of the Lowell Sun instead - at least they deal with local and state issues.
Bumpy in South Carolina
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May 15, 2008
 
I'm hoping this racist country will be able to elect a highly qualified black man, but I don't know. Lets all pray about it. Otherwise, we'll have more unemployment, high gas prices, and thousands more will be killed in a needless war. Help us all if we don't elect Obama.

“Disunion by force is treason. ”

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Norfolk, Virginia
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May 15, 2008
 
Every time I hear the word racist I cringe. Not because I am one but because there is nothing anyone can say in defense of this allegation. Usually it isn't true when that card is played, but the average Joe can't stand up to that because the media, in their infinite wisdom, has poked and prodded the American public with it. It's like the overweight black woman in the grocery store who is yelling like an umpire about food prices. The manager comes over and giver her what she wants just to shut her up. No decorum, black children are NOT taught for the most part, how to assimilate in to society and act properly. Why else would you hear music blaring out of cars at 120db. and if you say something they pull a gun on you.

Oh Obama will win and all the projects will get a new coat of paint. The gas price will still increase, there will still be problems in the middle east and our dollar won't gain against the Euro, but black America will have what they want at the expense of everyone, themselves included. We are probably in the last days of our democracy.
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May 15, 2008
 
I will agree that Obama may get some votes just because he's black. Its a shame that people will vote that way. However, you're proof that McCain may gain as many votes just because he's NOT black. It seems to be working both ways here.
I'm not a supporter of Obama, but I don't think his race will have anything to do with whether he fails or succeeds.
P.S.... we're a republic.

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May 15, 2008
 
As I said before in other threads on Topix, most of those red states will vote for clueless unstable amnesty giving war monger McCain, sad but true.

Map of red states
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselection... .

I hope all those red states make a better choice when they vote for president in November 2008 than they did in 2000 and 2004.

However, at this point, I think it is too complicated to just say that Obama will win or lose because he is black or part black.

First, Obama will most likely lose some of those red states in the Middle of the country. Some will not be shocked by that fact.

Second, most Hispanics live in red states, so if they vote against Obama their vote against Obama should not really matter that much any way.

Third, while California is a blue state with a large gay population, opponents of same-sex-marriage will place a bill on the November ballot.

For those not a resident of California, California’s Supreme Court just overturned a voter-approved ban on gay marriage, the ruling that would allow same-sex couples in the nation's biggest state to get married.

Republican Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is planning to put a Constitutional initiative on the November ballot to support an amendment to the constitution that would overturn gay marriage.

I assume a lot of bible beaters and anti-gay groups will flood the polls. Since California has a large gay population, I assume many gay people and gay rights supports are going to flood the polls.

I think this is going to make things really murky on how Obama will do in California, because a lot of those anti gay voters will most likely vote McCain.

Forth, I don’t think a vast majority of white women are going fold on a major issue such as abortion rights and vote their rights away by voting for anti-abortion candidate McCain. Maybe the dumb ones who don’t do their research will vote for McCain, but I doubt the other will.

Finally, if people vote for McCain, they will get exactly what they deserve when they vote for McCain. They will be the first to get drafted into McCain’s 100 year war, witness amnesty for illegals, and have to pay an arm and a leg to fly to Canada or Europe for an abortion.

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May 15, 2008
 
A-Patriot wrote:
Every time I hear the word racist I cringe. Not because I am one but because there is nothing anyone can say in defense of this allegation. Usually it isn't true when that card is played, but the average Joe can't stand up to that because the media, in their infinite wisdom, has poked and prodded the American public with it. It's like the overweight black woman in the grocery store who is yelling like an umpire about food prices. The manager comes over and giver her what she wants just to shut her up. No decorum, black children are NOT taught for the most part, how to assimilate in to society and act properly. Why else would you hear music blaring out of cars at 120db. and if you say something they pull a gun on you.
Oh Obama will win and all the projects will get a new coat of paint. The gas price will still increase, there will still be problems in the middle east and our dollar won't gain against the Euro, but black America will have what they want at the expense of everyone, themselves included. We are probably in the last days of our democracy.
Uh, are you saying that Barack Obama who, graduated with Honors at the top of his class (magna cum laude), is double Ivy League (Columbia University and Harvard Law School), and later was a Professor of Constitutional Law at a top 10 Law School can not fix some of the problems in the US?

Are you saying that McCain who graduated 894th out of 899 (5th from the bottom) in his class at US Naval Academy and never went to Law School or even taught a law class can do a better job?

I live in California and have never seen that type of behavior. However, your comparison is flawed and incorrect.

Comparing a loud over weight black woman who never went to college to a black guy that graduated at the top of his class from America’s top University is off the mark.

You are comparing apples and toasters.

“Disunion by force is treason. ”

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May 15, 2008
 
Preppy wrote:
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Ah, California...figures. The most liberal state in the Union. Just why did he study Constitutional Law? To begin the destruction of our Constitution by saying it is stained by slavery perhaps? Jesus H. on a Harley Davidson, if you'd put your bong down for a minute, let the smoke clear, you just might see a snake oil salesman who promises a great "change" but never, never says what the change will be! He is going to play Robin Hood, plain and simple.
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May 15, 2008
 
Obama is unelectable. Hundreds will be fainting. The only racism in this election is own camp.

Let's see.

"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people."

"God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people ... God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."

"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye.[Not that we were in a war against a guy who was financing a war by prying out teeth from 6 million jews he had starved and gassed.]"

"We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards [9/11]. America's chickens are coming home to roost."

"We started the AIDS virus ... as a means of genocide against people of color."

"The government lied about Pearl Harbor. They knew the Japanese were going to attack. Government's lied."

"... what's going on in white America, U.S. of KKKA ..."

Hmmmm...

Racist? Dude, I don't know if there are words in the English lexicon to capture the nausea of these words.
From Dreams of My Father, " I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER'S RACE". Barack Hussein Obama

From 'Dreams of my Father', "The emotion between the races could never be pure, even love was tarnished by the desire to find in the other some element that was missing in ourselves. Whether we sought out our demons or salvation, the other race (WHITE) would always remain just that: menacing, alien, and apart." Barack Hussein Obama

From Dreams Of My Father: "That hate hadn't gone away," he wrote, BLAMING "WHITE PEOPLE &#65533; some CRUEL, some IGNORANT, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives." Barack Hussein Obama

From 'Dreams Of My Father', "There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs," he wrote. "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on,to show your LOYALTY TO THE BLACK MASSES, TO STRIKE OUT and name names" Barack Hussein Obama

"What I value most about Pastor Wright is not his day-to-day political advice," Obama said. "He's much more of a sounding board for me to make sure that I am speaking as truthfully about what I believe as possible and that I'm not losing myself in some of the hype and hoopla and stress that's involved in national politics."
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May 15, 2008
 
Bumpy in South Carolina wrote:
I'm hoping this racist country will be able to elect a highly qualified black man, but I don't know. Lets all pray about it. Otherwise, we'll have more unemployment, high gas prices, and thousands more will be killed in a needless war. Help us all if we don't elect Obama.
I'm certain that we will elect a "highly qualified black man" as soon as one runs. Isn't it interesting that when the Fitchburg, MA paper runs an negative editorial about Obama we suddenly have comments from people in South Carolina and California. Have the people who read your local papers bulletin boards gotten tired of you? BTW, WHO are you asking for help FROM in your last sentence? Just wondering.
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May 15, 2008
 
Preppy wrote:
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Uh, are you saying that Barack Obama who, graduated with Honors at the top of his class (magna cum laude), is double Ivy League (Columbia University and Harvard Law School), and later was a Professor of Constitutional Law at a top 10 Law School can not fix some of the problems in the US?
Are you saying that McCain who graduated 894th out of 899 (5th from the bottom) in his class at US Naval Academy and never went to Law School or even taught a law class can do a better job?
I live in California and have never seen that type of behavior. However, your comparison is flawed and incorrect.
Comparing a loud over weight black woman who never went to college to a black guy that graduated at the top of his class from America’s top University is off the mark.
You are comparing apples and toasters.
You can try to engage them with critical thought but, it won;t get you anywhere as you already see in the response. In answer to your question, no, he was simply stating his racists "i'm not one of course" opinion.

"Only the Democrats could have come up with this nightmare."

This is a Republican Noise rag and THAT is why the article is here, simply an attempt to paint Democrats as in some kind of trouble. This one...

"For instance, in a number of those states in which he defeated Sen. Hillary Clinton, the Republicans can be expected to win in the fall balloting."

Yeah, right, seen any of the recent LOST Republican seats? GOP are winning only in dreamland!

Democratic voters will unite behind Obama and anyone on a comment board saying they won;t is a troll, no dem is stupid enough to allow another Republican Administration happen!
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May 15, 2008
 
"To begin the destruction of our Constitution by saying it is stained by slavery perhaps?"

Conspiracy theorists much!!!!!!

yeah, that makes perfect sense in delusion land!
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May 15, 2008
 
Stamos - you are so blatantly "color-coordinated" it is amazing you can even wear blue jeans. But hey - the right-wings crap-tossers have had their heyday for the past 8 years and you are probably afraid of a New Day in America. You can keep listening to Jay Severin and you can keep repeating his nonsense, but all it does is to make YOU sound like a complete and utter fraud, rascist, and idiot.
Patriot - McCan't was a lousy pilot with even lousier luck. He was a horrible student with a horrible temper. He was the cause of the worst shipboard fire since WW2 (USS Forrestal) and has no concept of how to fix the economy. If military experience is enough of a resume to be a good president, then Jimmy Carter should have been a great one. It isn't. Go peddle your racial tomfoolery somewhere else.
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May 15, 2008
 
Obama is a Muslim! He is saying whatever he needs to say for stupid people to elect him in to office. The dude is a liar folks. None of them (the canidates) are of any value to this country. This Obama guy studied for twenty years under a Muslem who taught ""death to all whites". C'mon, this guy will say anything you want to hear to get into office. Sad , really stinking sad.
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May 15, 2008
 
Nip wrote:
blah blah blah I'm afraid. where's my hero cowboy who will keep me safe from the boogymen in my dreams?
Put down the Meth pipe and get some help.
Shah
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May 15, 2008
 
shame
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May 15, 2008
 
Nip wrote:
Obama is a Muslim! He is saying whatever he needs to say for stupid people to elect him in to office. The dude is a liar folks. None of them (the canidates) are of any value to this country. This Obama guy studied for twenty years under a Muslem who taught ""death to all whites". C'mon, this guy will say anything you want to hear to get into office. Sad , really stinking sad.
Stupid people believe he is a muslim despite the overwhelming abundance of obvious facts that prove otherwise.

Talk about "say anything".
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May 16, 2008
 
A-Patriot wrote:
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you just might see a snake oil salesman who promises a great "change" but never, never says what the change will be!
There are hundreds of pages of detailed plans on his website. Start with the 70 page "Blueprint for Change" PDF that provides an overview of each area (ethics reform, health care, the economy, seniors, energy policy, education, restoring fiscal discipline in washington, plan to support rural communities, foreign policy, veterans affairs, immigration, etc), then follow the links in each section to read the full plan for each area.

I don't expect you to have the patience to wade through that much reading for a candidate who you clearly wouldn't support under any circumstances, but I thought an awareness of the material might motivate you to at least pick some issues on which you can disagree with him, rather than falsely asserting that he has no plans at all.
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May 16, 2008
 
People are so ignorant, if it wasn't so pathetic, it would be funny. Obama is a Christian, he is not a Muslim. That is the fact. If any of these morons actually believe that he has some "convertly" hidden his true faith they are either blatant propagandists or too stupid to open a bottle of asparin.

If McCain somehow gets into the WH, you can kiss this country good bye. Everything you have known, worked for and hoped for yourself and your children will go down in flames. Further war will bankrupt our country, will isolate us from the rest of the world and set us on a collision course with Russi and China. And folks, if Russia and China combined forces, the US is toast, nuclear toast, but toast nevertheless.

America is losing it's soul. We used to be a great nation of strong, determined people. Now, we are a confedercy of dunces who allow corporate controlled media to dictate our beliefs, shape our opinions and prevent any critical thinking. Wake the hell up.
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