Pay-as-you-go express lanes could be headed to Orlando area

Is Orlando crazy? Do you know how many accidents this thing caused in the first week of existance? Money hungry politicians. This stupid project took away 2 lanes of 95 NB and without any replacement lanes being added. Unless you are one of the few south floridians driving up to 595, this moronic plan helps nobody out in the long run. Believe me Orlando, you don't want to flollow Miami's lead when it comes to ANYTHING.

And how does limiting cars willing to pay a toll ease conjestion?

One would think adding a lane and allowing all the cars that it can handle would lower the volume on the other lanes... thus easing conjestion.

Sounds like more money and bigger government to me.

Please reduce the amount of taxes on gasoline by the amount of money you are charging in tolls to build more roads. Double taxation used to be wrong.

Iron Head wrote:

And how does limiting cars willing to pay a toll ease conjestion?
One would think adding a lane and allowing all the cars that it can handle would lower the volume on the other lanes... thus easing conjestion.
Sounds like more money and bigger government to me.
Please reduce the amount of taxes on gasoline by the amount of money you are charging in tolls to build more roads. Double taxation used to be wrong.

This isn't the first time they have tried to jam this down our throats.

They won't be happy until EVERY road in the area is a tool road.

Make that toll road.

I can't believe Orlando is even considering this idiotic move. Born and raised in Orlando I learned to drive on the same 3 lanes of I-4 that you newbies drive on now.
Adding the occasional lane here and there is not helping the situation. Provisions for population increases and additional drivers are never made in Orlando until it's too late.
Adding tolls on I-4 and following Miami's lead on this is the most outrageous idea our city and transportation planners could think of. We dont have the space for this on our roads - and taking I-4 from 4 decaying lanes to 2 would be a seriously moronic idea.

OH MY GOD. As if we don't pay enough tolls already. This gives a whole new meaning to "highway robbery."

Native Girl wrote:

I can't believe Orlando is even considering this idiotic move. Born and raised in Orlando I learned to drive on the same 3 lanes of I-4 that you newbies drive on now.
Adding the occasional lane here and there is not helping the situation. Provisions for population increases and additional drivers are never made in Orlando until it's too late.
Adding tolls on I-4 and following Miami's lead on this is the most outrageous idea our city and transportation planners could think of. We dont have the space for this on our roads - and taking I-4 from 4 decaying lanes to 2 would be a seriously moronic idea.

Well said. Leave this crap and nonsense to south Florida. Don't bring that here.

The FDOT used the HOV lane to build this; Orlando has no HOV lane.

Instead of paying 200+ million to make one or two I-4 lanes toll only, why not lessen the traffic on the rest of the lanes?

Use that 200+ million to hire several extra highway patrol cars on the most congested roads during rush hour[s].

Have them take on all problem causers. Take down all of the agressive bastards that cut people off and force them to slam on their brakes causing all of this traffic. Get rid of the people who use the emergency lane as their personal lane. Go after the distracted drivers that cause accidents. You see where I am going.

That 200+ million can pay for a ton of extra cops and cop cars on our roads.
and for you politicians out there: All of the tickets these cops will write can mean a lot of extra money for your wasteful pet projects!

Make it a $500 fine for hitting the candlesticks and the idiots in Miami will stop trying to cheat the system. IF that does not work, deportation for second offense.

Commuter rail and light rail would ease things. Also adding an HOV lane would help especially if a hefty fine were levied on improper use.

Can anyone on this board ever recall any good idea coming from the F.D.O.T. O.T? That is the largest political dumping ground of all the bureaus in State Goverment without very many folks with actual road-building and traffic movement experience.

As a sugeston, why not remove some of the on and off ramps from I-4 and allow traffic to only enter and leave at certain places-hire extra F.H.P. to enforce the traffic laws and it always disgust me to see two or three troopers accompaining the football coaches to games when they are sorely needed on the highways!!

stupidest........idea......... .ever.......

How does reducing the number of available lanes and jamming most of the traffic into less lanes ease congestion? This does not even come close to making sense.

Passing a law keeping slow drivers and those not passing out of the left lane would make a world of difference on our highways.

Higher fees, more rules and bigger government can and will solve all your problems for you!!

I don't understand how these lanes would work. Say it gets busy and gridlocked and people decide "Hey, I'm going to drive in the toll lane to get somewhere faster". Once a certain amount of people make that decision, wouldn't the toll lane then become just as busy as the rest of the interstate??

Florida needs to spend its money on quality & innovation, infrastructure that will last as population continues to swell. Alternative transportation to automobiles, like a rail system. Perhaps upgrading the Lynx system to make it more accessable to people and maybe even emissions-free buses. Ideas like this will help the state, toll lanes on I-4 will just be like any other lane on I-4.

trtsmb wrote:

Commuter rail and light rail would ease things. Also adding an HOV lane would help especially if a hefty fine were levied on improper use.

Well, thanks to some of your community members in Lakeland, that idea is on the back burner AGAIN for the next several years.

If we enforced the immegration laws the roads would be much less congested. Deport the illegals. Does the word illegal mean anything? Illegal! Illegal! Illegal!
That means they are criminals. That means they are in our country illegally. That means they do not belong here and are a drain on our resources, including our roads. They are probably the worst offenders in our traffic problems because they do not have a license or insurance. They have to go home. There are other law abiding people that want to come to our country legally. Those people should be the ones we let in. It is totally inapropriate to penalize the people that are trying to come here legally because we have too many illegals here to let them in.

As the person said in the article, something like that wouldn't work in Miami, nor in Florida, because people in this State are just too stupid for something like that to work safely. There's a reason Miami was just named for the second year in a row "Worst drivers in the country", and was also named "Stupidest city in the country". Hialeigh finished second in the mid town category, so with stupidity like that running rampant in this state, they shouldn't put any more obstacles on the road, than they have to. What do you expect in a state that is ranked 50th in education? We would be lower, if there was more than 50 states in the country.

Southwest Orange wrote:

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This isn't the first time they have tried to jam this down our throats.
They won't be happy until EVERY road in the area is a tool road.

you are right i would like to know who the sob is who keeps pushing this despite the fact the public is against it.