LIRR achieves best on-time performance in 30 years

Did they take into consideration the morons who delay the trains when commiting suicide?

Stop your crying wrote:

Did they take into consideration the morons who delay the trains when commiting suicide?

Gotta love that crossing grade in Bethpage. They need to install a counter so we know how many idiots tried to outrun the train.

let's see, on time is plus 6 minutes and trains go from 60 minutes late to cancelled aren't counted at all.

Nice try PR

Bill1154 wrote:

Always whining - drive a car.

Holding people in positions of power accountable for their lack of service is not whining; it's being a responsible citizen.

And the reason why so many people don't drive into the city is because it's more expensive and less convenient.

What's funny is that you want people to drive to the city to work, yet if this happened you would also want them to pay an additional fee so that "you could help mass transit."

You guys always want to both ways. You're pathetic.

I can walk to Manhattan faster than the train can get there

Hot Shot wrote:

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Holding people in positions of power accountable for their lack of service is not whining; it's being a responsible citizen.
And the reason why so many people don't drive into the city is because it's more expensive and less convenient.
What's funny is that you want people to drive to the city to work, yet if this happened you would also want them to pay an additional fee so that "you could help mass transit."
You guys always want to both ways. You're pathetic.

I'm pathetic? You take a good news and whip it around to just what I said, whining. Save it for when the LIRR screws up. They give plenty of opportunities. And I don't want everyone to drive to the city, just stop whining about your commute or drive. Both ways suck. I would never commute. I was always lucky enough to find decent work right here on the island.

Bill1154 wrote:

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I'm pathetic? You take a good news and whip it around to just what I said, whining. Save it for when the LIRR screws up. They give plenty of opportunities. And I don't want everyone to drive to the city, just stop whining about your commute or drive. Both ways suck. I would never commute. I was always lucky enough to find decent work right here on the island.

Bill,

This is not nitpicking good news. This is saying that the LIRR is lying to us. The deck is stacked so that the numbers always look good.

As people have already mentioned, last month an Oyster Bay train was cancelled. Cancelled trains do not count towards OTP. Passengers had to wait two hours for the next train. The branch posted 100% on-time that day, yet hundreds of people were two hours late.

Here is a list of issues from April. This is directly from the Rail Roads alerts:

Equipment problems on the Oyster Bay Branch, shutdowns of the West Hempstead branch, signal problems in Islip. That was the first two days of the month.

The Port Washington Branch was shutdown for the weekend, after heavy volume from the Mets and equipment problems caused delays during that week. The following week, service was again suspended due to someone being hit by the train in Bayside.

Fires east of Jamaica stopped service to south eastern Queens, while debris on the tracks slowed service on the Ronkonkoma branch. Disruptive passengers in Rockville Center, medical assistance in Huntington, and police activity in Deer Park slowed more trains.

Disabled trains in the Long Beach yard caused more issues, as well as a derailment in the Port Jeff yard the next day. Equipment problems caused system wide slow downs on the 25th, while police activity at Merillon Avenue caused huge delays the very next day. Track Circuit problems caused delays on the Ronkonkoma branch on the 27th, while a disabled train at Penn caused system wide delays on the 28th. A car on the tracks in Bethpage later that night just made riding the mainline a joy that week.

Finally, we ended the month with 40 minute delays due to an unauthorized person on the tracks near Jamaica.

Yet, we ar celebrating over a 98% OTP. Does that really even sound possible?

long time rider wrote:

What a joke....Do you consider it on-time to be stuck in the tunnel? they do! They count any train as ontime once it hits the tunnel not the platform....realize that this is putting people at risk...God forbid there was ever an attack on the tunnels...LIRR crams trains in just to make there times look better. Remember the days after 9/11 they would not allow trains to sit in the tunnel??? good old railroad....manipulating the data again

I remember those days post 9/11 flying through the tunnel to get out AND get in. The LIRR considers themselves on time even when they arrive 5 minutes and 59 seconds late!!! just make the schedule 6 minutes later and stop jerking us LIRR riders around!!! Doing this for 30 years... They still s*ck.

Thomas wrote:

I can walk to Manhattan faster than the train can get there

hahahaha. i feel that way when you can be on time pulling into lindenhurst but if you are going to babylon on the same train, you will be late!!!!! arghhhhhhh

Why is my LIRR always late, full of people no seats, or it comes 1 min early and I miss the train. When the train leaves I hear the announcement say train is 2 mins early.? why how about arrive on time. This LIRR survay is BS and fake.

30 years ? this is BS. My train is late every day. No seats, No AC, no Heat, spill and garbage when I take the late LIRR home from Penn. I think the attorney general should look in to this. Who says the LIRR or it's riders ?

Holy garlic breath Robin! Has Mussolini taken over the running of the LIRR? Maybe we should just take the train in and out of Gotham!! Especially since the Batmobile only runs on premium!!

LIRR is the Mastic of Long Island. LIRR is nothing but liers and criminals.

LIRR has adopted the same selective reality that airlines use.

LIRR are piece of CR*AP - Liers, just keep giving the big wigs raises and big bonuses everyyear thats all they want. LIRR is a bunch of retart skell plunger monkeys as CEO's. What a waist of money - I would take LIRR if it ran more efficant and better.

Massapequa Man wrote:

LIRR are piece of CR*AP - Liers, just keep giving the big wigs raises and big bonuses everyyear thats all they want. LIRR is a bunch of retart skell plunger monkeys as CEO's. What a waist of money - I would take LIRR if it ran more efficant and better.

Personally, I think this is a fraud. I really think this needs to be looked at by the Attorney General, or some district attorney. People are being rewarded based on these OTP numbers. Ms. Williams is touting that the railroad has its highest OTP ever.

Yet the fact of the matter is the problems continue to grow.

The OTP numbers do not accurately reflect what people experience. I would love to know what a real measure of hors lost was. For example, a train with 100 people is 6 minutes late, or 600 man-minutes, which is 10 man hours. If the train had 1,000 people, it would be 100 man hours.

If 100 people have to wait two hours for the next Oyster Bay train because one broke down, today the broken down train is cancelled, and the next train is on time, for a 100% OTP. Yes, 100 people were two hours late, so 100% OTP, yet 200 man hours late.

I guess last month I was always on the unlucky 2% of trains.

The issue is, if people are really getting promoted, or being given bonuses based on these false OTP numbers, then someone should be in jail.