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Mrs. Bush: History will vindicate her husband

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Jul 25, 2008
 
Cranberry Frame wrote:
I winn.
Passing fancy song quote service:

"people living in competition"
"too many "people" have died"
"somebody ought to start a fight, before the "animals" start a war"

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Jul 25, 2008
 
Mrf Yrrbnrc wrote:
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Passing fancy song quote service:
"people living in competition"
"too many "people" have died"
"somebody ought to start a fight, before the "animals" start a war"
Duhhhh? What that?
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Jul 25, 2008
 
I will put my money down that he is more likely to be judged by historians as the President of one of the 5 worst US administrations than he is to be vindicated.

What are we getting for all of the money we have thrown at Iraq. A country that trains and inspires more terrorist than it did before, less cooperation from the world even our allies, an unstable government than empowers Iran instead of keeping it in check, death and destruction in Iraq on a scale greater than under Saddam and Iraq is still Anti Isreal.

Wow that was worth 2 trillion dollars.

I can't think of a single policy from this administration that has strengthened the US, and it excution of existing policy far exceeds any in memory in ineptitude.

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#10082
Jul 25, 2008
 
Anndde wrote:1. Wikipedia's article on Cold fusion presents it as a "continuing controversy."
Just like IDers say there is a controversy about evolution. Only there is much more science behind cold fusion.
Liberals hope that Cold Fusion will rescue us from our oil dependency without the need to drill for oil off our coasts.
Who are you referring to?
Cold Fusion experiments are actually widely discredited.
Show me the line where wikipedia is cheerleading for cold fusion. They present information about the work that has been done in that area and reported on. Have they left something out like the conservapedia?
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Jul 25, 2008
 
Cranberry Frame wrote:
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Duhhhh? What that?
If you have to ask, then I cannot explain it to you.

Thanks

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Jul 25, 2008
 
Anndee wrote:2. Liberals loathe self-defense,
You enjoy creating strawmen, don't you. It doesn't make you look very rational.
and Wikipedia's entry on the national self-defense system of the
Strategic Defense Initiative is
seething with bias and outright falsehoods.
Long passages are devoted to irrational criticisms of the programs,
Like what irrational criticisms? Like the fact that it wouldn't actually protect us from a missile with multiple warheads?
with inexplicable prominence given to criticisms by Hans Bethe, a European-raised scientist who later endorsed John Kerry for president.
What does his endorsement of Kerry have to do with this?
The entry even claims that SDI brought "the nuclear standoff with the Soviet Union to its most critical point!"
Are you denying that the announcement of work on a
new missile defense system by the U.S. did not ramp up the weapons race? In fact, Reagan admirers say that he showed interest in SDI precisely to force the USSR to ramp up its own weapons projects.
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Mrf Yrrbnrc wrote:
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If you have to ask, then I cannot explain it to you.
Thanks
Well, Had no bye the weigh so many facters no blue it and know it smells.

"And if you have to ask, then I cannot explain it to you."

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Jul 25, 2008
 
Anndee wrote:3. Wikipedia biographies for conservatives such as Rush Limbaugh and Michelle Malkin are usually saddled with large sections titled “controversies”. These “controversies” are often nothing but quotes or complaints by fringe liberal elements.
Like the complaints filed by decent people of all political persuasions when Limbaugh made fun of Michael J. Fox? Now I know you're problem. You let Rush do your thinking for you. The wiki could have quoted Al Franken's book for outright lies and disinformation, but it would have taken up too much space. Controversy is putting it mildly.
However, the Wikipedia page for “Hanoi” Jane Fonda describes her obviously controversial propagandizing for the North Vietnamese government during the Vietnam War as “political activism” rather than “controversy”.
Would you have preferred controversial political activism? The wiki reports Fonda's claim that the POW's were not tortured which shows that it is not
being overly sympathetic to her. It didn't leave that part out like the conservapedia left out the Dover case. Why did they leave it out, do you suppose?
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Mraf Yrrebnarc wrote:
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Many if not most presidents have mismanaged some aspects of a war at the outset.
I am no cheerleader for Bush, but I do feel compelled to speak out occasionally against the nasty and irrational Bush bashing that permeates cyberspace.
The point you are missing is dubya mismanaged ALL aspects of this voluntary invasion. This invasion has gone on longer then WWI and WWII; where the foe was much larger, much stronger, and much more organized. Those wars were also wars of necessity.

In the end, the cost to the taxpayer will be staggering. To give a clue as to why some of the so called "intellectual" Americans are upset, here's some points to ponder.

#1. It was a voluntary, illegal invasion of a sovereign nation that could have been solved on a diplomatic basis.

#2. bush& **** used doctored and cherry picked intelligence with extraordinary nazi grade propaganda to support fraudulent claims.

http://downingstreetmemo.com
http://intelligence.senate.gov/080605/phase2a...
http://intelligence.senate.gov/080605/phase2b...

#3. To sell the war to the public, it was supposed to be a cakewalk, flowing in money, with no cost to the U.S. taxpayer. Even the neocon fringe have called bush an utter, total disaster.

When you get done with those points, here are some more...
200,000+ Iraqi civilians deaths
4,000,000 displaced Iraqi civilians
?,???,???+ wounded Iraqi civilians

175,000 American military families "on hold"
4,000 American sons, fathers, husbands d e a d
37,000+ Americans maimed

We should not forget to ponder these devastated lives.

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Anndee wrote:4. Wikipedia promoted to good status, or GA, its smear entry about Conservapedia, in which Wikipedia claims that Conservapedia "has received much criticism from those who have accused it of factual inaccuracies."
And it lists three footnotes to back up that claim of criticism. Are you saying that no one has criticized the conservapedia? I can understand the conserve's reaction since they are bent out of shape by the use of CE instead of BC or foreign spellings of words. They are positively paranoid and you sound paranoid too. You sound like one of those fundies who declare a biology book atheistic if it doesn't have "praise Jesus" on every page.

You are so lost in the forest of your own strawmen, you can't see daylight sometimes. Read
Sagan's "The Demon Haunted World" and join the real world.
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Anndee wrote:
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The planning probably happened shortly after the first hit on the towers.
1993
*World Trade Center Bombing, February 26, 1993*: The World Trade Center in New York City was badly damaged when a car bomb planted by Islamic terrorists exploded in an underground garage. The bomb left 6 people dead and 1,000 injured. The men carrying out the attack were followers of Umar Abd al-Rahman, an Egyptian cleric who preached in the New York City area.
Of interest, the clinton admin's justice dept CAUGHT and PROSECUTED those responsible for the 1993 attack; in Federal court with REAL judges.

Contrast that to bush. His admin caught osama's driver and tried him in a kangaroo court.

Why haven't they caught osama you ask?
Shortly after 911, bush stated in a press conference, he is not interested in finding osama. So sad...

references: March 2002 Press Conference
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/...

Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him.

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Sure mrs bush, history will vindicate your husband alright. Those who thought dubya was ok, will certainly soon find he is a misfit, coke head, thief.
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Jul 25, 2008
 
Anndee wrote:
Just 10 of 127 examples
The following is a growing list of examples of liberal bias , deceit, silly gossip , and blatant errors on Wikipedia .
1. Wikipedia's article on Cold fusion
presents it as a "continuing controversy." Liberals hope that Cold Fusion will rescue us from our oil
Anndee, I know there's a lot of big words in there, but Wikipedia is an excellent resource. I don't know if anyone told you this, but anyone can edit the contents, regardless of political affiliation, race, gender, nationality, sex, age, level of insanity (neocons can edit), etc... It is maintained by the public at large and most incorrect data is deleted. With this type of watch dogging, bias is typically noted and the reader warned of biased content.
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McCain McDunce McGramm wrote:
The point you are missing is dubya mismanaged ALL aspects of this voluntary invasion. This invasion has gone on longer then WWI and WWII; where the foe was much larger, much stronger, and much more organized. Those wars were also wars of necessity.
Exactly. We HAD to fight or risk eventually being conquored.

NeoCons are incapable of understanding that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and they NEVER posessed the military might to occupy one square inch of genuine American soil.
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McCain McDunce McGramm wrote:
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The point you are missing is dubya mismanaged ALL aspects of this voluntary invasion. This invasion has gone on longer then WWI and WWII; where the foe was much larger, much stronger, and much more organized. Those wars were also wars of necessity.
In the end, the cost to the taxpayer will be staggering. To give a clue as to why some of the so called "intellectual" Americans are upset, here's some points to ponder.
#1. It was a voluntary, illegal invasion of a sovereign nation that could have been solved on a diplomatic basis.
#2. bush& **** used doctored and cherry picked intelligence with extraordinary nazi grade propaganda to support fraudulent claims.
http://downingstreetmemo.com
http://intelligence.senate.gov/080605/phase2a...
http://intelligence.senate.gov/080605/phase2b...
#3. To sell the war to the public, it was supposed to be a cakewalk, flowing in money, with no cost to the U.S. taxpayer. Even the neocon fringe have called bush an utter, total disaster.
When you get done with those points, here are some more...
200,000+ Iraqi civilians deaths
4,000,000 displaced Iraqi civilians
?,???,???+ wounded Iraqi civilians
175,000 American military families "on hold"
4,000 American sons, fathers, husbands d e a d
37,000+ Americans maimed
We should not forget to ponder these devastated lives.
I will lay odds that this fruitcake will come back with a diatribe about Bill clinton.
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Jul 25, 2008
 
Of course I meant Anndee
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Jul 25, 2008
 
McCain McDunce McGramm wrote:
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The point you are missing is dubya mismanaged ALL aspects of this voluntary invasion. This invasion has gone on longer then WWI and WWII; where the foe was much larger, much stronger, and much more organized. Those wars were also wars of necessity.
In the end, the cost to the taxpayer will be staggering. To give a clue as to why some of the so called "intellectual" Americans are upset, here's some points to ponder.
#1. It was a voluntary, illegal invasion of a sovereign nation that could have been solved on a diplomatic basis.
#2. bush& **** used doctored and cherry picked intelligence with extraordinary nazi grade propaganda to support fraudulent claims.
http://downingstreetmemo.com
http://intelligence.senate.gov/080605/phase2a...
http://intelligence.senate.gov/080605/phase2b...
#3. To sell the war to the public, it was supposed to be a cakewalk, flowing in money, with no cost to the U.S. taxpayer. Even the neocon fringe have called bush an utter, total disaster.
When you get done with those points, here are some more...
200,000+ Iraqi civilians deaths
4,000,000 displaced Iraqi civilians
?,???,???+ wounded Iraqi civilians
175,000 American military families "on hold"
4,000 American sons, fathers, husbands d e a d
37,000+ Americans maimed
We should not forget to ponder these devastated lives.
500,000 children died under the Albright/Clinton sanctions.

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tournefort wrote:
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Hi Jim, I'm glad you posted in response to my message. I'm sorry for being unclear. I was NOT critcizing YOU. I was commenting on the nasty comments made to you by Donna.
These comments were addressed to her:
"Tell us, oh condescending one, just what you have contributed to "the community at large" that is, in ANY way, useful. Re-reading your posts, I find NOTHING.
And no one elected you "speaker for the forum" or the "community at large"."
I'm sure you have noticed that thus far her only "contributions" to the thread have been to repeatedly call you "liar", a variety of other names and play junior psychiatrist.
Thank you, I don't let small minds like Donna and others who prove themselves so clueless. I give them no more consideration than a Bull Elephant gives to the flies who gather at the dung he leaves behind.

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I've read the replies to you with some amusement. They seem to be claiming your posts make you a liar because you post things like the Prague connection to Mohammed Atta.
Although the link has been 95% disproved, if these people did actual research into that event they'd realize it actually indicts Iraq and Saddam Hussein in using terror as a tool. Let me repeat...Even though the meeting probably DID NOT occur the story proves Saddam Hussein's complicity in terror.
Also the allegation George Bush or Cheney "invented" this link proves those making such accusations know absolutely nothing about the event, nor what they speak.
The truth of the matter is the Czech Intelligence informed our CIA of the meeting April 21, 2001...well before 9/11, but the identity of the visitor (alleged by the Czechs to be Atta Sept 11 2001) was unknown on April 9,2001. But this is where it gets interesting.
The Czechs expelled the Iraqi embassy employee named Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Samir al Ani as a result of this April 9, 2001 meeting on April 24, 2001.
The point I'm making is a meeting did occur between the Iraqi (al Ali) and 'someone' who the Czechs identified as Atta AFTER 9/11. The meeting wasn't "invented" by Bush Cheney or anyone else since it did occur. It just probably wasn't Atta.
The reason the Czechs were watching the Iraqi Embassy is a very interesting piece of history relating to terror, but since most folks ignore history I've decided it is probably not worth sharing...
Well said, but be careful, putting logic and truth on this thread will make you a target of those emotionally disturbed posters.

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Harry Reid is the Senate Majority Leader, hear his wisdom below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Okay Dennis Miller, please don't hold back, tell us what your really think about Harry Reid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Bush is one of the best presidents we've had since Lincoln. I wish he could have a third term. B. Hussien Obama is a marxist who is going to tax EVERYTHING. For those that work, get ready to start paying for those that don't want to, because that what Nobama want.
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