Danbury church may join coalition to help immigrants avoid depo...

Looking at the covenants (at least one of which seems to be mising from the article), there isn't anything illegal or immoral, or even controversial, about the actions the churh may be about to take. The reasons people migrate are many and the US, and that means its citizens, share in many of the factors, like support for administrations that destabilise local economies...

In any event, good for the churh. I'm with Ms. Marciano on this one. They can do what they want and God bless them.

This is just a slippery slope towards harboring illegal immigrants. You watch, the next thing will be Taborsak hiding someone wanted by ICE at the Church. Remember, vote her son out this November.

LEGAL immigrants are not generally deported, so it seems to me that this particular church is aiding a criminal enterprise.

What we need to do is STOP allowing anyone born here under any circumstances to automatically become a citizen, it is being abused horribly. The amendment allowing it was NOT written to support people here illegally, as it's author has clearly stated.

Looking at the churches covenents is irrelevent to the law.

If these churches want to offer sanctuary aiding and abetting illegals, they should be stripped of their tax exempt status. This woman with 6 kids knew she and her husband were illegals, but that didn't stop them from producing children. If these churches want to take this type of action, I hope the parishioners are willing to pay all expenses for the remaining 7. Food, clothing, housing, utilities, legal bills, etc. I'm sick and tired of illegals praying upon churches for protection against deportation. She needs to be deported and take her 6 kids with her. They are not being held hostage!

ThomasJefferson wrote:

Looking at the covenants (at least one of which seems to be mising from the article), there isn't anything illegal or immoral, or even controversial, about the actions the churh may be about to take. The reasons people migrate are many and the US, and that means its citizens, share in many of the factors, like support for administrations that destabilise local economies...
In any event, good for the churh. I'm with Ms. Marciano on this one. They can do what they want and God bless them.

OK-so you won't mind if we raise YOUR taxes to support illegals? We'll send you the bills for feeding/housing/educating and medical care for the woman & her six children.

"New York City Sanctuary Coalition, an interfaith group that helps immigrants targeted for deportation -- particularly those immigrants who could be separated from their American-born children."

'Immigrants'?
They are ILLEGAL ALIENS.

If these illegal aliens REALLY cared for the kids they chose to have here at the taxpayers expense, they would take them with them when they are deported.

What awful role models these illegal alien 'parents' are.

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND. WE ARE ALL AMERICAN BORN CITIZENS IF WE WERE BORN IN THE AMERICAN CONTINENT.

THE NEWSTIMES WROTE>
'Her children ranging in age from 2 to 12 were born in this country and are Americancitizens...particularl y those immigrants who could be separated from their American-born children'.

AMERICA IS NOT A COUNTRY, IT IS A CONTINENT. WE ARE ALL AMERICANS.

So what is the problem. No one should be deported.

If some one does some illegally they should have to be dealt with by the law.

WHY DOES THE UNITED STATES STEAL THE WORD 'AMERICA' and 'AMERICANS' to only mean the U.S.A.

Colombus who supposedly discovered the 'American' continent never set foot in what we know know as the 'United States'. Christopher was in countries like 'Costa Rica' for which he named say 'Beautiful Coast' and never was in the USA.

I say let all the immigrants stay in the AMERICAN CONTINENT, wherever they please, whether it be Brazil, Colombia, Costa Rica, Mexico, United States, or Canada.

Pura Vida does so well what all illegal alien **** do, Lay claim to something that does not belong to them (our country), expect something that they haven't earned ( citizenship), and make their case with fraudulent reasoning ( we stole the name "America"?)

Ok the churches wan to migrate frombeing theological to political? Tax the heck out of them. As soon as they make the decision to support the ILLEGAL maggots, they are taxable from then on..........They have no respect for the US law then we have no respect for them. Put the entire church body on the big buses south!

The "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" is not the welfare country for everyone to come to, I suggest all those who think the "illegals" should stay here pay "all" those "illegals" expences and costs. I was born an "American" citizen and I can not get the benefits the "Illegals" do, in fact I almost lost everything because "I" had to pay. Send them HOME

Children born to illegal aliens are NOT USA citizens by birth! The 14th Amendment has been abused enough! If the parents have to be deported, the children can go with them. The pro-illegal alien lobby is always decrying about the families being separated--that is one big lie! Most children go back with the parents.

What I really resent is the sense of "entitlement" these illegals have. They have NO, I repeat, NO rights in this country, except to be treated in a humane way in court and in detention while being deported.

As gas reaches $4 per gallon, wheat prices tripling, food riots sprouting up globally and unemployment rising and municipalities going bankrupt, we cannot afford to take care of our own people let alone criminals sneaking into this country for a free ride which they refer to as "a better life".

However, entering the worst recession in generations isn't reason enough to deny any type of sanctuary to illegal aliens. There is also the rule of law, which in my opinion, is the most important reason. One set of laws for all of the people with no one above the law. That means illegal aliens are not above the law nor the churches who choose to become political on the issue.

Marciano is right, this is America. The churches are free to do what they want (within the law), just like we are free to petition local, state and federal governments to reverse their tax exempt status. We are also free to criticize the churches blatant political activism and to rightly point out if and when they are breaking the laws in the same manner in which the people they advocate for do.

In closing, why don't churches advocate for those citizens killed by illegal aliens or the those who have had to close businesses or lost jobs or had their wages suppressed due to cheap and illegal labor? Why don't they advocate for the American children who are having their educational and healthcare resources stolen? These poor American children who are having their futures compromised because they are dumbed down while non English speaking students, who don't belong here, catch up?

I guess there are differing degrees to being God's children. The American people evidently, in the church's and John McCain's eyes, are the lesser of God's children. Talk about hypocrisy.

havent you read give unto ceaser what is ceasers and to god what is gods,these people are breaking the law god wants us to obay mans law aswell as his and these illeagles are breakin the law and you are helping them so that makes you part of thier sin all of you wake up !

First of all the immigration laws are not broken - they need to be enforced. The illegals and their "representatives" want the laws changed to suit them. Secondly FEDERAL LAW supercedes all laws - even church law. These people who cry about being separated from the American born children should have considered the consequences of their actions BEFORE they had children - the children will live with the consequences of the decisions made by their parents - DO NOT blame America - it is the parents actions period. We all live with the consequences of our parents and our own actions. The church in it actions of giving sanctuary is breaking yet more laws. The American People do not want and will never welcome ILLEGAL ALIENS into the country that they have worked and fought for so that ILLEGALS can just steal into this country and make DEMANDS.

Has anyone else noticed that of all the illegal aliens mentioned in this article, not one complained about the process of becoming a legal citizen? Most likely, none of them are attempting to become citizens. If you are so worried about being deported or being seperated from your children...then START THE LEGAL PROCESS!!!!

"We are deeply grieved by the violence done to families through immigration raids. We cannot in good conscience ignore such suffering and injustice.Therefore, we covenant to take a public, moral stand for immigrants rights."

I totally agree and have also taken a moral stand...If you are here illegally; pack your bags and get out NOW

Pura Vida wrote:

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND. WE ARE ALL AMERICAN BORN CITIZENS IF WE WERE BORN IN THE AMERICAN CONTINENT....

AMERICA IS NOT A COUNTRY, IT IS A CONTINENT. WE ARE ALL AMERICANS.

You are wrong.
There is no continent called "America".

There is a continent called North America, and a continent called South America.

North America consists of the sovereign nations of :

1 - Canada (not Canada of America), the citizens of Canada are Canadians, or North Americans, not "Americans".

2 - the United States of America, the citizens of the United States of America are "Americans" because the word America is part of the name of our nation. Americans are also North Americans.

3 - Mexico (not Mexico of America), the full name of the nation of Mexico is the United States of Mexico. The citizens of Mexico are "Mexicans", or North Americans, they are not "Americans".

- the nations of Central America (Central America is a very narrow isthmus of southern North America extending from the Isthmus of Tehuantepec in Mexico southeastward to the Isthmus of Panama):

4 - Belize (not Belize of America), citizens of Belize are "Belizans", Central Americans or North Americans, not "Americans".
5 - Costa Rica (not Costa Rica of America), citizens of Costa Rica are "Costa **** ", or Central Americans or North Americans.
6 - El Salvador (not El Salvador of American), citizens of El Salvador are "Salvadoreans", "El Salvadoreans", Central Americans, or North Americans.
7 - Guatemala (not Guatemala of America), citizens of Guatemala are "Guatemalans", or Central Americans, or North Americans.
8 - Honduras (not Honduras of America), citizens of Honduras are "Hondurans", or Central Americans or North Americans.
9 - Nicaragua (not Nicaragua of America), citizens of Nicarqagua are "Nicaraguans" or Central Americans, or North Americans.
10 - Panama (not Panama of America), citizens of Panama are "Panamanians", or Central Americans, or North Americans.

Nobody has "stolen" the word "America". Citizens of the USA are "Americans" because that is part of the name of our country.

(Brasil is on the continent of South America, not North America.)

Do you understand that?

Each of the nations of North America and South America are independent of each other, and are sovereign nations, each nation is self governing. The United States of American does not govern over Mexico, or El Salvador, or Brasil, or Peru; and you would not want the USA to govern over your country.
As sovereign nations, we are citizens of the nation of our birth, or the nation to which we have become a legal citizen and owe our allegiance. In so being, we must respect the borders and the laws of each other nation.
The United State has borders and laws, just like every other nation, and our borders and laws are to be respected.

If you want to come to the USA to live, you are required, by law to enter the USA legally, and to apply to do so before you get here, from your own nation, and you are not to come to the USA to live, until you have the permission of US Immigration Authorities to enter.

If you cannot respect the sovereignty of the United States of America, why would anyone respect the sovereignty of your nation?

If you want to live in the United States, just immigrate legally, and you are more than welcome. Do not disrespect our country by coming here illegally, or why would anyone here have respect for you if you disrespect our borders and our laws?

Pura Vida wrote:

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND. WE ARE ALL AMERICAN BORN CITIZENS IF WE WERE BORN IN THE AMERICAN CONTINENT.
THE NEWSTIMES WROTE>
'Her children ranging in age from 2 to 12 were born in this country and are Americancitizens...particularl y those immigrants who could be separated from their American-born children'.
AMERICA IS NOT A COUNTRY, IT IS A CONTINENT. WE ARE ALL AMERICANS.
So what is the problem. No one should be deported.
If some one does some illegally they should have to be dealt with by the law.
WHY DOES THE UNITED STATES STEAL THE WORD 'AMERICA' and 'AMERICANS' to only mean the U.S.A.
Colombus who supposedly discovered the 'American' continent never set foot in what we know know as the 'United States'. Christopher was in countries like 'Costa Rica' for which he named say 'Beautiful Coast' and never was in the USA.
I say let all the immigrants stay in the AMERICAN CONTINENT, wherever they please, whether it be Brazil, Colombia, Costa Rica, Mexico, United States, or Canada.

You need to keep your nose is Costa Rica! Whatever you have to say is not of any importance at all! Why don't you sponsor a few of the illegal aliens in my country and support them yourself?

The Constitution is not a suicide pact, and The 14th Amendment was not written to convey citizenship on the children of illegal aliens. The first sentence of the 14th Amendment says:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
Advocates of illegal immigrants read this as:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
Obviously, the parents of anchor babies are subject to the jurisdiction of a foreign government, and they are only subject to U.S. immigration law because of their illegal presence in this country. The anchor baby maintains the same status as his parents, and is not automatically a citizen of the U.S. Citizenship for anchor babies was not the intent of the 14th Amendment.
Go to http://www.vdare.com/sutherland/weigh_anchor....
There is a well written article substantiating the intent of the 14th Amendment.

Keep calling your Congressmen today to co-author THE SAVE ACT! KEEP CONSTRUCTING THE FENCE! Toll free numbers include 18778516437 and 18662200044, or 12022243121 AND REGISTER YOUR OUTRAGE at ongoing efforts to keep our country from enforcing its immigration laws!

If they want to help ILLEGAL ALIENS hide from governmental laws I hope they throw the book at the "supposedly Christians"!!!!!!!!!!