Unleashing FBI To Target Suspects By Race, Religion

Why wasn't this article more prominently placed in the paper and on the web site? Why is it apparently buried on the Op-Ed page?
When did it stop being news when personal liberties are threatened?

These are unfortunate times we live in. Unfortunate because ONE ethnic group representing ONE religion is the ONE major problem that the USA now faces.

Unfortunate because the vast majority of the people in this country who are of this ethnic group and this religion, whether citizens or not, are just looking to earn a living and live peacefully.

Unfortunately the government IS justified in "profiling" them. The government is justified because the last time I checked, radical Hindu groups werent trying to get a nuclear weapon into the US. The same goes for Sikhs, Catholics, and Budhists.

Unfortunately the every major terrorist catastrophe of the last decade had been the work of Muslims. So Yes. Profiling is justified.

To those Muslim American citizens, I sincerely apologize. To Muslim visitors in the US from other countries, feel free to leave if you do not like it.

Please dont make any kind of comparisons to how the Japanese were treated in WWII. Then Americans of Japanese descent were rounded up and put in camps, against their will. We're talking about nothing of the sort.

But if you are getting on an airplane and are wearing a Burkha, expect a bit of extra attention. Its nothing personal. Unfortunately, the next plane that is blown up will most likely be blown up by a Muslim, so we need to give Muslim's a bit of extra attention. When your brothers stop blowing things up, perhaps this unfortunate situation will end.

I'm not trying to be snide or insensitive. Just realistic.

Don

Dear Don,
I don't remember hearing that Timothy Mc Veigh was Muslim.

Dear Nosey. Oklahoma city was in 95 or 96. I said. "decade" means 10 years.

Even still, name one other event besides Ok city in the last 20 years? 1, lets hear it?

public corruption, broken, abused and discriminatory courts, abusive child protection agencies, police brutality, state sponsored civil rights deprivations, coast to coast grand scale drug trafficking and related money laundering is what the fbi should be redressing. this country is bombed daily with corruption that poisons america's population, young and old, steals the public's money, and subjects multitudes of citizens to the deprivations of civil and human rights. the current governing authority of the united states is operating unlawfully and has bent the courts to allow, condone, and impliedly authorize unlawful governmental conduct. that unlawful practice is pissing off people domestic and abroad and is one of the major contributing factors to terrorism. the united states of america needs to restore justice in it's courts and governmental operations and show people here and there that america is truly a fair and good country

Someone explain to me how you find "wrong doing" in an individual looking to inflict harm in people by terrorism?

Explosives can be made with some fairly benign items. No wrong doing there. That is until they are assembled and used, then there is "wrong doing", then again it is too late. So on the scales of common sense someone being offended vs. a dead person. A no brainer.

Then again if you choose to continuously ride the slippery slope express you are bound to err on the side of civil liberties and not safety.

DON RIGHT ON! OH for you libs who want open boarders and such and no evesdroping on suspected terrorists did you hear the GREAT ONE THE OBAHMA he gave a speach JULY 2, in which he said he will create a "civilian" int. agency to rival the D.O.D. THAT IS THE SCAREST IDEA SINCE FDR N.R.Act of 1933 it seems the great one knows the dod will not let him sacrifice this nation. its also in line with winnie mendalea oh excuse me obahmas wife when she said that WE HAVE TO CHANGE when her husband is elected.

By the way, I'm pro open borders, provided we can figure a way to let the poor people who just want their piece of theamerican dream in, and keep the terroristas out.

I think we need more Mexicans, Peruvians, and Equuadorians in this country, not fewer.

The other great thing about an open borders policy is you can then assume that anyone trying sto sneak across the border is either a theif, smuggler or terrorist. Shoot them on site. Iff and only if the poor mexicans who just want what my Italian ancestors got from america.

By the way, please spare me the overused, incorrect arguments:
1) they dont learn english - they will. Most of the spanish speaking people who refuse to speak english that I've encountered are already US citizens because they were born in a US territory, and they are already Citizens.

2) But my relatives came here legally - sorry, do you know how many non-employer sponsored, non special case, non spouse visas were issued last year?? 5000!!!!! That might as well be ZERO. There is NO LEGAL METHOD for a poor person gain entry into the US. That is not what the US is about.

Let the poor folks in. Throw out all the Jordanian, Syrian, Lybian, and Iranian "Students"

Don Mei: If you want open borders,invite all the lawbreakers to your neck of the woods and then you can pay extra taxes to offset their entitlements. Let everybody that comes here through legal channels enjoy the american dream. The illegal alien lawbreakers that march in the streets. and demand rights that they are not entitled to should all be deported and the employers { if any} should pay their return fare.

well .......this is what we get for electing republiKKKan to office. just like hitler and the nazis, its just a replay of history. STUPID americans have learned NOTHING ! george orwell ........where are you at ??????

Joan. Like I said above. There are no legal channels available. the US issues only 5000 nonsponsored/nonspouse work visas per year. 5000!!!! Your comments betray you as a relatively ignorant xenophobe, with little basis in fact.

By the way. I'm not looking to give any handouts. If they cant find work they go home. I dont think that will be a problem though. My area is swarming with illegal workers from Equador and Peru, and by and large they are harder working than native born Americans. AGHAST. This has been true since the begining of this great country. The poor immigrants took the jobs that Americans didnt want. They took the hard, hot, dirty, menial jobs that Americans didnt want.

Their kids, benefitting from speaking English went to college and became the Americans who didnt want the jobs their parents did, fortunately their places were taken by new Immigrants. That flow has stopped. That balance is broken. We need more "tired, hungry, huddled masses".

In Essex there is a manufacturer that needs seemstresses. They are about the only company of its type I know of that hasnt moved the work offshore to China. Do you think they would be able to fill those positions with American born workers. Ha. And even if they could, they would not be getting the QUALITY workers that are provided by recent immigrants, both illegal and legal. Recent immigrants are HUNGRY. My experience has been that they are here to work hard.

Maybe also if we let their families in, they wouldnt be sending most of the money home.

Don Mei wrote:

Dear Nosey. Oklahoma city was in 95 or 96. I said. "decade" means 10 years.
Even still, name one other event besides Ok city in the last 20 years? 1, lets hear it?

Don,
Your point is well made, but let's not forget people like the Unabomber and Randy Weaver.

"If the Bush Justice Department" Boy thats reporting right out the Soviet press! We the People own the Govt - Or did we all forget that little tidbit?

Terrorism is a bunch of *-*p First of all why are we letting muslim terrorists come to this country with open arms? The Democrats are even giving your Tax money to them ??

The State and Local police are protecting the Govt From YOU, Not Terrorists?? What they say is not what they are doing.. If Muslim terrorists want to take us out they will do it from within and OUR Govt is doing a great job at supporting terrorism with OUR taxes. Both partys are guilty of that! White man speak with forked tounge..

Over all the Liberal spaceshots in the press better stop proping up Socialism as the answer to Americas political problems. Greed has no Political party..

Nosey,
I agree with the Unabomber and Ok City. In a way I sympathize with Randy Weaver.(He wasnt bothering anyone, he was a tax fugitive) But thats a whole 'nother discussion.

Yes, we do have some home grown terrorism. But we all can agree that the threat posed by the likes of Tim McVeigh are miniscule (holding my thumb and forefinger very close together for dramatic effect) compared to the threat posed by Islam.

I mean here's a quick list off the top of my head.

Leon Klinghoffer
Lockerbee Scotland 747
World Trade Center 1993 (about)
USS Cole
US Embasy bombings
Saudi Arabia night club bombing
9/11
Spanish rail bombings
UK underground bombings
Russian school takeover (500 dead)
Nick Berg
Danny Pearl
Varanasi India bombings

So like I said. I look forward to others coming forward with similar lists for Budhists, Sikhs, Catholics.(spare me the Crusades comments) or Hindus.

I am troubled and dismayed that there are only 14 - not counting this commentary - comments on this issue from only 8 contributors. Have people become so numb and apathetic, and/or so willing to surrender their rights for a percieved sense of security?
My main concern with this proposal is giving such blanket authority to a single segment of the government. Though I believe it has been trampled on since it's inception, isn't the Constitution based on a system of checks and balances?

I agree, it is pretty disturbing that people are willing to give up rights for the perception of security.

What worries me a lot is that people no longer understand and appreciate what liberty means. They are happy to give up their liberties for some government assurance. It might be safety. It might be assistance after a natural disaster.(Remember that well prepared New Orleansians were forced at gunpoint to leave their flooded homes)

Thanks, but I'll take self reliance and minimal intrusion any day.

However, lets not forget that non-citizens dont have any right to be here. So before we start patting granny down at the airport, lets get rid of all the "students" from hostile foreign countries who are here. What is most alarming to me is the stupidity of NOT profiling. That means my grandmother gets the same attention as the 25 year old Iranian "student" at yale getting his Doctorate in chemistry. Its just insanity.

Don Mei wrote:

I agree, it is pretty disturbing that people are willing to give up rights for the perception of security.
What worries me a lot is that people no longer understand and appreciate what liberty means. They are happy to give up their liberties for some government assurance. It might be safety. It might be assistance after a natural disaster.(Remember that well prepared New Orleansians were forced at gunpoint to leave their flooded homes)
Thanks, but I'll take self reliance and minimal intrusion any day.
However, lets not forget that non-citizens dont have any right to be here. So before we start patting granny down at the airport, lets get rid of all the "students" from hostile foreign countries who are here. What is most alarming to me is the stupidity of NOT profiling. That means my grandmother gets the same attention as the 25 year old Iranian "student" at yale getting his Doctorate in chemistry. Its just insanity.

You made very good points!

A liberal was taught what to think.
A Conservative was taught how to think

Need I say more?

GEO wrote:

A liberal was taught what to think.
A Conservative was taught how to think
Need I say more?

Except you have it backwards. Liberal colleges try to get students to reach their own conclusions, and out of college, conservatives all parrot the party line.

laughing,
While I dont agree with Geo's comments about liberals and conservatives, your comment is also wrong.

First Geo's comment - These bushie neo-cons are worse than liberals. They push for big government just like the liberals do. The difference (and I'm using a bit of artistic license for brevity) is that the neocons want big government so they can spy on us. The Libs want big government so they can "help people".

Real conservatives (as in minimal government) are flocking to the libertarian party as they find themselves agreeing with extreme liberals on topics like 1st 4th and 5th Amendment protections.

LAUGHING - You are wrong. Liberal colleges try to suppres conservative thought. They dont welcome dissenting opinions. I have attended lectures at yale and wesleyan by well known conservatives. The students in both cases tried to shut the event down by protesting and interupting. If the college wanted people to reach their own conclusions they would have enforced order in those venues.