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Mexican torture training video released to media

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#208
Jul 22, 2008
 
Pony wrote:
<quoted text> Ben you have a good point there. But I have never been one to lay down and do nothing when challenged. I just have to remember that there are people that have never been out of there own safe area and cannot understand the world out side of it. Maybe that's a good thing for them they will never have to know the truth.
Or cry and whine like a baby that everybody else is calling names, when you started it. Typical authoritarian loser. You probably say you want "small government" but then you approve of unconstitutional wire taps and denial of habeas corpus (look it up).

Have you ever been anywhere outside a U.S. garrisoned foreign country or the "Green Zone" or a secure FOB in Afghanistan? Did you travel the world on your OWN CHOICE prior to "protecting us"?

People like you make this country look bad. And the sad part is you don't even realize it. Go cry on ben hebron's lap now.
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#209
Jul 22, 2008
 
Ben-Hebron wrote:
<quoted text>I support signal moms, most are dancers at the strip clubs, bet that is your line of work, dance a little screw a lot, or maybe you like girls a flaget girl that’s right, holy cow Flaget girls and flaget guys all in one night how the he11 do you it. Dollar pre dance 0.50 cent a BJ, you have a good job.
How much have you had to drink tonight you incoherent dirt bag? What is a signal [sic] mom? Is that some mom who sends smoke signals or something? Flaget?????

Dude, lay off the sauce and seek treatment for your lack of education and the PTSD you have left untreated since 'Nam. I don't want to have to come back here and spank you and pony (as much as you pansies would like it) down all night.
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#210
Jul 22, 2008
 
Ben-Hebron wrote:
<quoted text>Jill I was right! You do have the unusual mental ability to fortell the past, you are young you have any of my bastards, I may have known you mom and you're on of my bastards.
Glug glug. Third pint of whiskey coming right up, Ben!

Now rub one off to the pretty naked lady on the computer screen, pet your toy poodle, and stumble into your bed where you can tell your saggy wife that you..hicccup....love her with all your heart!
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#213
Jul 22, 2008
 
Ben-Hebron wrote:
<quoted text>Bet you are a MexTexan, with the IQ of doorknob, most Mexicans in El Paso are, always talking are flags, bet it is a genetic thing, it start because they never know who their real papa is, 98.5 MexTexans dress like cowboys which is the outward sign of a flaget, the Mexteaxans girls screw anything with a heart beat. At the clubs, you cannot tell the men from the women because they all dress alike. No wonder you always talk about gays psychologically all Mexicans are flags, holy sh=t, no wonder there are so many signal parents households, the hubbies are in drag and the mamas are dancing in the strip clubs.
Stop hanging out in transvestite bars.
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#214
Jul 22, 2008
 
Lizzy wrote:
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This guy doesnot make any sense anymore.He has lost it again.He is out of his element.If little ole me can break him.WHAT WILL VIETCONG DO TO HIM.
THIS GUY WAS TORTURED AND RAPED.THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND.
Don't worry. He'll drink another fifth of whiskey and be back stammering and yabbering even more now. Give he/she an hour.

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#215
Jul 22, 2008
 
Jane wrote:
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You see what I mean,duh I am so dumb now,I am out of my military training,so I don't know what to say.Say it I'm gay
If you are a soldier, do not be caught up in this merry go round these people are vile and Anti-military. El Paso is and has never been friendly to GIs at Fort Bliss, I had an NCO and a private almost beaten to death by these Sons Of Bieatches, and the civil authorities did nothing. They want our money but not our presence, your right I am an oldas. I served in Viet Nam and in The Gulf War; all I print here is for fun. If you are truly a Soldier thanks, my son and two nephews are deployed I wish I was there in their place; thank you for your sacrifice. Good Night.
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#216
Jul 22, 2008
 
Ben-Hebron wrote:
<quoted text> I wish I was there in their place; thank you for your sacrifice. Good Night.
We wish you were in their place too. But you're in a loony bin.
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#220
Jul 23, 2008
 
Hey now this is what I like to see a group of many attacking a few. It is nice to see that you have become the bully's and trying to enforce your beliefs upon the few, and will stop at nothing to try to destroy another's belief. Now I can say one thing you are true Americans. You have done well to become the aggressor, the occupier, and the dictators of your world. Be proud because you have just become what you have bitched about the most. I am so proud of you, I could just about cry. You are good soldiers. I salute you.
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#222
Jul 23, 2008
 
all you mexicans that think america is such a bad place to live in, move to mexico and live like the mexicans, work for pesos and under mexican working conditions.
I get sick of hearing americans complain about the u.s.a. if its so bad get the h--- out and don`t let the door kick you in the a-- on your way out.
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#227
Jul 23, 2008
 
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Didn't you learn p.ssy.Even your gay soldier learned,Nobody cared for you guys.Get lost.Can't you see how many people hated you two idiots and everything you stand for.You keep coming back for more,because you have nobody else to even talk to.But you don't know how to start with a conversation.Instead of trying to be somebody.These are forums for people to chat,We have no time for your everybodies against me crybaby sh.t.
You have got to be kidding me you call this chatt. You attack people and call it chatt you are a funny person. Like I said you have become the aggressor and now you make excuses for your aggression. You truly are a great American. You call your post a conversation. It is a simple attack. Now you are trying to tell people that they can't post here. I am happy to be able to think as an individual and not in a mob mentality. Have a nice day.
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#230
Jul 23, 2008
 
Pony wrote:
Hey now this is what I like to see a group of many attacking a few. It is nice to see that you have become the bully's and trying to enforce your beliefs upon the few, and will stop at nothing to try to destroy another's belief. Now I can say one thing you are true Americans. You have done well to become the aggressor, the occupier, and the dictators of your world. Be proud because you have just become what you have bitched about the most. I am so proud of you, I could just about cry. You are good soldiers. I salute you.
Personally I couldn't care less what you think because you already proved yourself to be a huge crybaby and hypocrite when you accused me of calling names after you had started the name calling.

I can assure you that nobody here thinks they will change your mind, because like a "Good German" you march in lockstep with whatever the Administration tells you will be "Good for America". You lost the ability to question the right wing long ago.

Again, I don't care what you think. Now it's time to continue attacking the resident drunk Jew veteran, Ben Hebron who is probably already downing his first 5th of whiskey as I type this.

Bye!
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#232
Jul 23, 2008
 
Well Tony I am happy that think so much of me and that you give me so much of your attention, but you are the one with all the hate coming out. I know you use the word spank as a figure of speech and I believe you have the right to all the speech you want and so should you give the right of speech to others. The form is for all to speak/post not just the people you want to speak/post. Tony my education level is above most, and I have studied very hard to get there. I'm like you Tony I can't stand an **** hole who thinks they have the right to tell others what they can do or say. Tony I agree with you about a person that would try to stop a persons right to speak and be heard is nothing but a low life scum bag. You are a good man to believe in rights for all and not just for a few. Have a nice day
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#235
Jul 23, 2008
 
tony not pony wrote:
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Dude you sound like president Calderon.You speak tru uas.
NO (DUDE) you just proved my point. Have a nice day.
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#239
Jul 24, 2008
 
ROBERT wrote:
She is right pony boy,those people on that other forum are the same ones that are afraid at night and want protection,in the morning they talk tuff.than they get wacked,and their mommy's come out on t.v. my kid never did anything wrong.But we have to put up with it,untill they are all weeded out.(ala Bush and Iraq,etc.)you see pony we are military,and we don't act like you guys,we are not proud of it.you never know if you are the good or the bad.You are right we give alot to alot of people and save a bunch.but maybe we saved the wrong ones.so how can we be proud.Only god knows who should be saved.Only god is a hero.Bill gates gives away money and he gives it away in interest and grants,and gets tax right off's.We just give it .We build houses and families when the rains destroy them.Everybody in Mexico and Central America is on our payroll,and with one condition,do not mention our name.Everybody knows,but it is not said.Does that make us heroes,no way man,all we are doing is our job.We are not aloud to boast,or get decorations,or tell war stories.WE have stories that would scare you soldier boys,but to us all it means is ,we survived because that is our job for god.You see your stories are the same ones,just
other characters.Our stories are different,We are trying to change economies and the way the world will be for hopefully the next 30 or 40 years.Not for us ,for the cause.Our families are so rich now that they are monsters,That means it no longer belongs to them.It belongs to the world.We are trying to make the move where these money's are not kept ,stashed,They should move and help the world,Create jobs,better life,future,and hopefully if we succeed with what we are doing in Mexico and Columbia,CEntral America,our kids will hae a future.I don't mean just our kids.I mean all kids.O ur leader we believe has the ability one way or another to control oil from the latin countries to go to U.S.A. That would hopefully put a straggle hold on Arab prices.But this man is Also part Arab,it is believed he could calm down and convince Arab nations to com is.In fact there are peopl in Lebanon proposing for he to me the mediator as we speak.He is doing it here.I t is believed he can do it there.
Robert I have nothing but respect for people like you that do not sit on there butts and just talk. I never said I was hero nor have I sit here and told war stories. I have done the same as you and only stated my opinion with great opposition. That does not bother me the name calling I get so much of that I am not worried about these peoples comments, they have right to say what they want. A free form is what it means a free form for free speech which I applaud all who take advantage of it. I admit some of my statements have been off key but I stand behind my belief's. If I fall I will get back up and if I am wrong I will make it right. All I ask is to let it be my choice. Robert I do not think you are a bad guy but a man trying to do what he believes in. I wish you nothing but luck in your endeavor.
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#240
Jul 24, 2008
 
LIZZY wrote:
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There you go again Pony no one can say anything to you.You always get mad and clam up.That is military brainwash.Look at This Robert.That man is a one of the baddist dudes you can know.That guy there is so powerful little girls throw themselves at him like he is giving away candy.Yet one of you guys says something bad to him,That otherwise in certain circles could get you killed.But he listens and I ask him are you mad,And he says,just for a second.This poor guy doesnot know what I am capable of ,so I must understand he just spoke out of turn.And he calms down.And he tries to talk to you.But you have to win everything.That is the military talking.This man is military also in some ways,but he wears a lot of other hats also,so he keeps his cool.That is a leader.You are just acting like an soldier..
Nice to see you have calm down some what and are able to ducess maters that are on your mind as I have done the same. I am not mad nor am I angry at anybody here. Like I said this is a free form. So good luck to you on your choice of campaign's.
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#242
Jul 24, 2008
 
wow wrote:
ME LLEGO ESTE CORREO Y QUIEREN Q SE MANDE PORFAVOR SI LES LLEGA MANDESELO A TODOS SUS CONOCIDOS SIN ORIGEN
ya me canse
maten a todos los delincuentes, secuestradores, roba bancos, pandilleros, piratas,todo la mierda que no dejan al empresario trabajar se esta parando el dinero por estos estupidos y la gente necesita que se mueva el dinero quiero tranquilidad en 21 dias o los mato a todos. favor de mandar este mensaje por myspace, youtube, o cualquier otro medio, es por el bien de juarez que termine
warmaker
Its's showtime
No mames ojete!!
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#246
Jul 24, 2008
 
wow wrote:
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That is fine.Now you are talking like a person to deal with.You just tagged on to BEN-Hebron and that just put you on a very bad side. Look at the message before by WOW.That is what we have to do.That is why you just jumped on the wrong side and we have things to do that are more important,than play military games or like Ben-Hebron tell us we don't know anything.If you can understand the message from WOW,you would understand that the military is like the cartels,they are outdated.Times have changed..Things will be different.The military is for sometimes,other times we have to be nursemaids.And today we took matters into our own hands.
WOW the military are not out dated and are nothing like the cartel's. I agree there is a place and time for military action. Remember the military trains for war and prays for no war. I am a child of the 70's and was taught to respect all sitting President's and the military but not with an absolute. I have much respect for all that speak their minds and would not want nothing less. I pray for peace, and let peace rain, but when it does not we are who they call. I believe that most people on this form have strong convictions and beliefs, and hope you follow them. Wow thank you for your insight and your thoughts on this subject, and good luck to you and all your challenges in your future.
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#248
Jul 24, 2008
 
tommy wrote:
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Hey guy you are on the wrong forum.This is not the idiot forum where we try to prove who is the most Mexican of all.You win.
tommy, me thinks liz has enough balls for the both of you, go get um tiger
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#249
Jul 24, 2008
 
THOMAS wrote:
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We will win.WE can't do like the military.If they don't win they brainwash people for 20 years that it was not a lost,than they finally admit it was a useless war.and than the public tells thems how they screwed up eveything.We have no room for error.We have to win.WE have to change the world,WE have to change the economy,Because if we wait for presidents,and politicians,we will die .
Thomas I would love to change the world and make it a better place but I have met a lot of people out there that would rather die than have their world changed. We can only believe that there will be better things for us in the future, and if not we have the right to speak out.

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#255
Jul 25, 2008
 
It is inspiring and refreshing to read all the commentaries from the urban and social anthologist, on this site, as to how the contributions from the cartels and the street gangs have given the City of El Paso; and how they have enriched the lives of so many, keep up the good work. If they should leave El Paso and take with them the jobs that they provide, and the city loses that tax base surely El Paso will shrivel up and die. Keep up the good work Barrio Azteca, and you too cartels. El Paso cannot live with out you.
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