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Huckabee quips about gun aimed at Obama

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BIG LIP LEROY
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May 17, 2008
 
DevilSpirit wrote:
Very Very mean-Spirited comment coming from one who calls himself a man of God. Sad.
God did destroy evil men maybe God was talking through Huckabee to give the word....*LOL*
It was a bad joke dumb asses who want to make something out of it...where where you when crosshairs were bruched on Bush...etc....I feel this country is beyong that today....hey no one doing Clinton or Buch and their still here so chill out my brethern Democrats
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May 17, 2008
 
Larry wrote:
I am a strong advocate for private gun ownership, even though I personally don't own any. I believe that their should be strong backround checks and some form of skills testing before a gun can be issued. It seems like common sense to me. So, why is the NRA so opposed to these practices and why do they have idiots, like Huckabee, speak at their functions? It certainly hurts their credibility.
Backround checks are done sir...as to training
it's like todays computers...point and click.
there really not hard to use, you load them point it and shoot it.
Safty is the 1st think you learn when you have a gun you have respect for it...I own 3 handguns all semi hi-cal with 15rd clips and to sport rifles an AR-15 and a Mini-14...
Those guns will one day keep my family and myself safe from intruders or our government....but I enjoy target shooting..have found out to be a prey good shot....
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May 17, 2008
 
BIG LIP LEROY wrote:
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Backround checks are done sir...as to training
it's like todays computers...point and click.
there really not hard to use, you load them point it and shoot it.
Safty is the 1st think you learn when you have a gun you have respect for it...I own 3 handguns all semi hi-cal with 15rd clips and to sport rifles an AR-15 and a Mini-14...
Those guns will one day keep my family and myself safe from intruders or our government....but I enjoy target shooting..have found out to be a prey good shot....
God bless ya Leroy. As long as you're obeying the laws of the land, I see no problem. I also agree with you about the teaching of safety. The NRA is actually pretty strong there, but the are weak in the area of backround checks. We'll have to agree to disagree there.
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May 17, 2008
 
I'm not suprised that Huckabee would make a such typical Redneck comment..before a typical Redneck crowd where he felt he could make such a stupid comment...What he doesn't get now is he needs to head on back to Sleepy Hollow and sit on the porch..because his days of running for a National office is over...
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May 17, 2008
 
Larry wrote:
Try again Monty. I know guy who go out of state, to Oklahoma actually, just to get items at gun shows that they have a hard time purchasing in california. AND, the FBI has already taken the stand that those "instant backround checks" are basically useless. It's the good folks at Smith & Wesson, Colt, ect.. that want the instant checks and they have some mighty powerful lobbiest.
Like I said, I'm not against gun ownership. I just think there's some folks, like convicted felons, who shouldn't have access to guns.
If the instant backround checks are "useless", how is one to check the credentials of a potential buyer??
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May 17, 2008
 
Edward King wrote:
I'm not suprised that Huckabee would make a such typical Redneck comment..before a typical Redneck crowd where he felt he could make such a stupid comment...What he doesn't get now is he needs to head on back to Sleepy Hollow and sit on the porch..because his days of running for a National office is over...
Yeah. Heaven forbid a Democrat be held responsible for what comes out of their mouth.

"Typical redneck"?
Typical phrase from from one who is typically intellectually dishonest.
BTW, he's from Lttle Rock, not Sleepy Hollow.
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May 17, 2008
 
Larry wrote:
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God bless ya Leroy. As long as you're obeying the laws of the land, I see no problem. I also agree with you about the teaching of safety. The NRA is actually pretty strong there, but the are weak in the area of backround checks. We'll have to agree to disagree there.
BTW Larry. How do you feel about backround checks before purchases of knoves? Baseball bats? Flammables (i.e., gasoline)? Automobiles?
Monty
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May 17, 2008
 
...uh, knives.

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May 17, 2008
 
Edward King wrote:
"..because his days of running for a National office is over..."
"his days is over" ROFLMFAO!
Mebbe you'ze shood gooz backs to screwel anz lernz to talks sum better anglish too, eddieboy, befour yooz goes calling anywon else a hillbilly!

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May 17, 2008
 
virgin maria wrote:
if the republicans can demean and have no respect for our next president Barack Obama , then you republicans are a bunch of low life and I`m begining to belive what they say about republicans your all a bunch hate monger racist.
To make a remark about pointing a gun at our future president is beyound jokeing.
And I am sure you whined mightyly about the entire MOVIE that portrayed the actual assigination of Pres. Bush?

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May 17, 2008
 
Larry wrote:
I am a strong advocate for private gun ownership, even though I personally don't own any. I believe that their should be strong backround checks and some form of skills testing before a gun can be issued. It seems like common sense to me. So, why is the NRA so opposed to these practices and why do they have idiots, like Huckabee, speak at their functions? It certainly hurts their credibility.
360,000,000 guns in America at best guess.

100,000 of them were misused last year by thugs and mopes. That's probaby high since many of the misuses were with the same gun over and over.

That means that YOU want to subject the owners of the other 359,900,000 guns to your idea of "testing" when they have done nothing to warrant it.

And THAT is the perfect definition of a liberal... it doesn't matter how it works or if it's needed... as long as it makes them "feel good" about "doing something."

“It's all in the reflexes.”

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May 17, 2008
 
Larry wrote:
Try again Monty. I know guy who go out of state, to Oklahoma actually, just to get items at gun shows that they have a hard time purchasing in california. AND, the FBI has already taken the stand that those "instant backround checks" are basically useless. It's the good folks at Smith & Wesson, Colt, ect.. that want the instant checks and they have some mighty powerful lobbiest.
Like I said, I'm not against gun ownership. I just think there's some folks, like convicted felons, who shouldn't have access to guns.
1) It is against the law to sell firearms to someone from out of state.

2) If your friends are picking up other things than actual firearms it has nothing to do with either firearms or gun shows. If Californai outlaws buffalo jerky and someone buys buffalo jerky at a gun show in Colorado that is no concern of California or the seller/buyer of buffalo jerky.

3) And the FBI is quite content with instant background checks seeing how virtually every state uses one in conjunction WITH the FBI. You don't bother to give cites for you assertations, do you.

4) As monty said, EVERY seller and every buyer at a gun show has to obey and follow every single state and federal law concerning the buying and selling of guns. If they choose to break the laws wit the BATF and a couple of hundred policemen wandering around then no amount of "laws" are going to stop them from doing so.
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May 17, 2008
 
My greatest concern over Huckabee's comment is that he said it in a crowded room in front of cameras, knowing that he had a large audience. If he is that willing to speak that openly in public, what kinds of things does he say and believe in private? How many racists like him still exist in this country?
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May 17, 2008
 
Aristotle wrote:
My greatest concern over Huckabee's comment is that he said it in a crowded room in front of cameras, knowing that he had a large audience. If he is that willing to speak that openly in public, what kinds of things does he say and believe in private?
Ask him
Aristotle wrote:
How many racists like him still exist in this country?
Well, there's plenty on BOTH sides of the aisle. One only has to search news articles for the answer.
Funny thing is, how do you figure what he said makes him a racist?
What else has he ever said for you to label him a 'racist'?

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May 17, 2008
 
The TRUTH about the 'NRA':

“The National Rifle Association has been in support of workable, enforceable gun control legislation since its very inception in 1871.”

—NRA Executive Vice President Franklin L. Orth. NRA’s American Rifleman Magazine, March 1968, P. 22.

“The NRA supported The National Firearms Act of 1934 which taxes and requires registration of such firearms as machine guns, sawed-off rifles and sawed-off shotguns.… NRA support of Federal gun legislation did not stop with the earlier Dodd bills. It currently backs several Senate and House bills which, through amendment, would put new teeth into the National and Federal Firearms Acts.”

— American Rifleman, March 1968, P. 22 [NRA Supported the National Firearms Act of 1934, by Angel Shamaya, March 29, 2002.]
http://gunshowonthenet.com/AfterTheFact/NRAGu...

“…As a matter of official policy, NRA does not call for the BATF to be abolished. In fact, the Association does not object to many of the federal laws against violent criminal behavior committed with firearms that BATF is charged with enforcing. Since we support certain federal laws relative to firearms, it only stands to reason that we would not promote abolishing the federal agency tasked with enforcing those laws….”

“…Furthermore, it has long been NRA’s position that a greater emphasis should be placed on enforcing existing laws that target violent gun crimes. In fact, NRA spent much of the eight years under Bill Clinton admonishing his Department of Justice for its failure to aggressively prosecute violent criminals who are caught violating federal gun laws. As part of that campaign, NRA began promoting the “Project Exile” prosecution model. In case you were not already aware, Project Exile is a cooperative effort between federal, state, and local law enforcement and prosecutors that calls for the full prosecution of violent gun crimes….”

- Amanda H. Millward, NRA-ILA Grassroots Division, Letter dated Nov. 20, 2006.
http://gunshowonthenet.com/AfterTheFact/jpfon...

The NRA was started by then current and former government employees. Which of course are the very people wih the most reason to see We The People disarmed.“Shall NOT be infringed” is not that difficult of a concept to understand. Yet the NRA, and the majority of politicians seem to have great difficulty in grasping the obvious meaning.

Support the 'NRA'? Ah no, thanks. Id rather support organizations that TRULY fight for our God-given INALIENABLE Natural Right:

The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms
http://www.ccrkba.org/

Gun Owners of America
http://www.gunowners.org/

Jews For The Preservation Of Firearms Ownership
http://www.jpfo.org/

The Second Amendment Foundation
http://www.saf.org/

“Shall NOT be infringed.”

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May 17, 2008
 
Barack Obama on Gun Control (Scroll down about 1/3 way down the page).
http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm

Barack Obama on Gun Control - with links/quotes
http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_...

Hillary Clinton on Gun Control (Scroll down about 1/3 way down the page).
http://www.ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.ht...

Hillary Clinton on Gun Control - with links/quotes
http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Hillary_Clint...

BOTH of them should scare ANY American concerned with TRUE Freedom and Liberty....

“Shall NOT be infringed.”

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May 17, 2008
 
Larry wrote:
.... some folks, like convicted felons, who shouldn't have access to guns.
The REAL ORIGINAL INTENT behind the Second Amendment:

The Shay's Insurrection, "These the Legislature could not infringe, without bringing upon themselves the detestation of mankind, and the frowns of Heaven", Jan. 12, 1787
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/Precedent/...

Commonwealth of Massachusetts, "and shall obtain an order for the re-delivery of such arms", Feb. 16, 1787
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/Precedent/...

Journals of the Continental Congress, "...impolitic and not to be reconciled with the genius of free Govts...", Feb. 19. 1787
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/Precedent/...

Letters of Delegates to Congress, "...An Act to disarm and Disfranchise for three years...", Feb. 27th, 1787
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/Precedent/...

Letters of Delegates to Congress, "...this act has created more universal disgust than any other of Government...", March 6, 1787
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/Precedent/...

Journals of the Continental Congress, "That a large body of armed insurgents, did make their appearance...", March 13, 1787
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/Precedent/...

James Madison to Thomas Jefferson, "a great proportion of the offenders chuse rather to risk the consequences of their treason, than submit to the conditions annexed to the amnesty", March 19, 1787
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/Precedent/...

A Proclamation, "and of being again renewed to the arms of their country, and once more enjoying the rights of free citizens of the Commonwealth", June 15, 1787
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/AProclamat...

The Debates in the Federal Convention, "...let the citizens of Massachusetts be disarmed.... It would be regarded as a system of despotism.", Aug. 23, 1787
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/Precedent/...

James Madison to Thomas Jefferson, "A constitutional negative on the laws of the States seems equally necessary to secure individuals agst. encroachments on their rights", Oct. 24, 1787
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/Precedent/...

"The people cannot be all, & always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independent 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it's natural manure. Our Convention has been too much impressed by the insurrection of Massachusetts: and in the spur of the moment they are setting up a kite to keep the hen-yard in order. I hope in God this article will be rectified before the new constitution is accepted."

- Thomas Jefferson, Nov. 13, 1787 letter to William S. Smith.
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/Precedent/...

That's RIGHT people, it was intended to SECURE the God-given, Natural, Inherent and Inalienable Right of those that HAD transgressed the law. ALL 'gun control laws' are REPUGNANT to the U.S. Constitution.
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May 17, 2008
 
Monty wrote:
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Indeed, but we hear the same thing from the Revs. Jackson & Farrakhan to one degree or another.
And then there's Rev. Wright.
Huckabee, making such a statement, having aspired for the Presidency and now seeking to be VP, Notwithstanding any and all other race-biased examples you are able to extract, is a lowly, cheap extension of himself.
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May 17, 2008
 
Truth wrote:
<quoted text> Huckabee, making such a statement, having aspired for the Presidency and now seeking to be VP, Notwithstanding any and all other race-biased examples you are able to extract, is a lowly, cheap extension of himself.
Agreed. As is any of the front runners and their handlers.
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May 17, 2008
 
BIG LIP LEROY wrote:
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God did destroy evil men maybe God was talking through Huckabee to give the word....*LOL*
It was a bad joke dumb asses who want to make something out of it...where where you when crosshairs were bruched on Bush...etc....I feel this country is beyong that today....hey no one doing Clinton or Buch and their still here so chill out my brethern Democrats
It would have been a BETTER joke if Huckabee had said someone was shooting at your Mammy. And she hit the floor, ducking the bullets. Agree?
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