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Downtown will become more bike-friendly, thanks to $490,000 in stimulus funds from a U.S. Department of Energy grant.

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Greg

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Nov 19, 2009
 
Answer this : Why are motorcycles banned from some parking garages ?
dave

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what a waste of 490,000 - i know NO ONE that rides their bike to work
tipusnr

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Finally. It won't help my commute but I know of several cyclists who commute and this should remove a major stumbling block to their ranks expanding.

I just hope it doesn't take 2 or more years to implement.
Get Real

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I am sorry I must have missed it, how many jobs did that grant money create?
OhioWorker

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dave wrote:
what a waste of 490,000 - i know NO ONE that rides their bike to work
There are over 100 people that bike to my office building during spring/summer/fall, and 10-20 that bike in winter. We have bike parking facilities which makes it more secure.
GAR---142

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Nov 19, 2009
 
Bike riders should have to PAY to park/store too. Two bikes to a parking place, 1/2 price for each vs. a automobile full price. Why should MY tax money pay for THEIR free parking and I have to pay FULL price because I'm too old to ride a bicycle to work?(and it's not safe for anyone to ride in the streets nor the bikes providing another problem for auto drivers.)
Andrew

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GAR---142 wrote:
Bike riders should have to PAY to park/store too. Two bikes to a parking place, 1/2 price for each vs. a automobile full price. Why should MY tax money pay for THEIR free parking and I have to pay FULL price because I'm too old to ride a bicycle to work?(and it's not safe for anyone to ride in the streets nor the bikes providing another problem for auto drivers.)
It's perfectly safe to ride a bike in the street. It's the passing vehicles legal responsibility to pass safely and assure a clear distance.
GAR---142

Columbus, OH

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Nov 19, 2009
 
Andrew wrote:
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It's perfectly safe to ride a bike in the street. It's the passing vehicles legal responsibility to pass safely and assure a clear distance.
True it is safe, IF, IF all the passing vehicles safely pass you, IF they do. IF they don't, well we all know who will lose.
Andrew

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GAR---142 wrote:
<quoted text> True it is safe, IF, IF all the passing vehicles safely pass you, IF they do. IF they don't, well we all know who will lose.
Considering bike fatalities vs. car fatalities over the last year, cycling seems to be the safer bet. AT least once a week I see a serious injury or fatality accident on the freeway. I can count on my hand the number of bike deaths in the last year.
Concern4Constitu tion

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Nov 20, 2009
 
So tax dollars are going to help people who are ALREADY biking to Columbus to jobs they ALREADY have? Hmm, I guess according to this administration's method of counting, that would be 2 jobs created or saved per cyclist, right?

This is insulting. No offense to any cyclists out their, but if you're biking to WORK, then you have a job to go to--the "stimulous" was supposed to CREATE JOBS--presumably for people who have lost theirs.
Andrew

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Concern4Constitution wrote:
So tax dollars are going to help people who are ALREADY biking to Columbus to jobs they ALREADY have? Hmm, I guess according to this administration's method of counting, that would be 2 jobs created or saved per cyclist, right?
This is insulting. No offense to any cyclists out their, but if you're biking to WORK, then you have a job to go to--the "stimulous" was supposed to CREATE JOBS--presumably for people who have lost theirs.
Love the ignorance that is so present here. According to recovery.gov :

The Recovery Act was passed by Congress and signed into law by President Obama on February 17, 2009. The purpose of the $787 billion Recovery package is to jump-start the economy to create and save jobs. The Act specifies appropriations for a wide range of federal programs, and increases or extends certain benefits under Medicaid, unemployment compensation, and nutrition assistance programs. The legislation also reduces individual and corporate income tax collections, and makes a variety of other changes to tax laws. Long-term investment goals include:

Beginning to computerize health records to reduce medical errors and save on health-care costs
Investing in the domestic renewable energy industry
Weatherizing 75 percent of federal buildings and more than one million homes
Increasing college affordability for seven million students by funding the shortfall in Pell Grants, raising the maximum grant level to $500, and providing a higher education tax cut to nearly four million students
Cutting taxes for 129 million working households by providing an $800 Making Work Pay tax credit for qualified individuals
Expanding the Child Tax Credit

Was part of the stimulus to create jobs? Yes but not it was not the sole purpose.
are you kidding me

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Andrew wrote:
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Considering bike fatalities vs. car fatalities over the last year, cycling seems to be the safer bet. AT least once a week I see a serious injury or fatality accident on the freeway. I can count on my hand the number of bike deaths in the last year.
that is to be expected considering the number of cars on the road versus the number of bikes.. come on
GAR---142

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Nov 21, 2009
 
Andrew wrote:
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Considering bike fatalities vs. car fatalities over the last year, cycling seems to be the safer bet. AT least once a week I see a serious injury or fatality accident on the freeway. I can count on my hand the number of bike deaths in the last year.
Oh come on. I suppose next you're going to say there are the exact same number of bikes using the roadways everyday as motor vehicles?(P/S, perhaps you haven't heard, but bicycles are not permitted on freeways.)
GAR---142

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Nov 21, 2009
 
are you kidding me wrote:
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that is to be expected considering the number of cars on the road versus the number of bikes.. come on
Sorry A.Y.K.M.. I was so amazed by Andrews rational, I failed to read your reply before posting mine to Andrew. Almost IDENTICAL wording.
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Nov 21, 2009
 
no problem GAR. the guy who made that statement is a tool. tools almost always have to have the obvious pointed out several times before they get it.
Brad

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You want it, why don't you pay for it? This is a waste of tax payer money for no gain whatsoever. Sure it would be nice for those that bike but obviously they already do. If there is a need for it that made financial sense, then garages or business would offer it. But since it makes NO sense, let's get the govt to fund it. Of course this makes me racist.
Carpe diem

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Nov 24, 2009
 
$490,000 is a little, teeny, weeny tidbit of funding relative to the gargantuan funding the automobile transportation receives every year. Folks, have you noticed, Americans are fat and are dying of fat-related illnesses. If people would ride bikes instead of driving everywhere, the national health care debate would not be so pressing. If providing secure parking for a relative pitance of 490K encourages people to get out of their exhaust-spewing cars what are you people complaining about????
tipusnr

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Nov 24, 2009
 
Carpe diem. I think you have hit on a sticking point in the debate. Will the dedicated parking increase the number of people bicycling downtown or just serve the existing population?

Will available parking change the adversarial climate between cyclists and motorists that is fed by each side believing that its right to the roadway is paramount? Probably not.

Personally, I like the idea but then I've lately become a road cyclist and enjoyed "Ride Columbus" last year. Still I won't soon be riding downtown on any kind of regular basis as getting from the suburb where I live has few safe routes and getting from where I work (in the City) has NO safe routes. So I'm stuck using my car inside the "beltway" except on group rides for recreation and fitness.

In the scheme of things $490K is a "teeny, weeny tidbit of funding" but to an individual working to get by - it is anything but!
Buckeye

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Nov 24, 2009
 
Greg wrote:
Answer this : Why are motorcycles banned from some parking garages ?
Why don't you call the owner of the garage and find out, or are you one of those people who owns a motorcycle and loves to pretend he's persecuted for it?
Carpe diem

New Albany, OH

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Nov 24, 2009
 
tipusnr, thanks for the considered response. From reading the article, its clear a purpose of the funding is to serve the increasing number of bike commuters to provide secure lock up, etc.

I agree, 490K is a huge sum to most people. However, those who bellyache about spending a dime for transportation other than the sacred automobile need to get a little perspective.
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