Georgia invades breakaway South Ossetia province; Russia sends ...

Brilliant strategy, roll in while world leaders are in China for the Olympics.

Tzar wannabe Putin...
Once KGB - ALWAYS KGB!
Beware the despots and oligarchs...

This is how world wars begin...georgia cant stand against russia all by itself but the question is, will someone (Like the USA or NATO) Step in to defend them.

Afterr 12 hours of fighting, over 1,000 people have been killed. Missles are now being used on both sides. Over 100 Russian tanks are entering Georgia. Several warplanes have been shot down. There are over 180 U.S. military advisors in Georgia. Russian aircraft have hit hospitals and schools.

Georgia Military Ground Force:

Men - 150,000

MBT

* T-72B1- 59
* T-72M - 75
* T-72AB - 71
* T-55AM -40

AIFV / APC

* BMP-1 - 80
* BMP-2 - 120
* BTR-80 - 75
* MT-LB - 64
* BRDM-2 - 17
* Otokar Cobra - 100

Artillery Towed

* 2A36 Giatsint-B-12
* 2A65 Msta-B-18
* 2A18 (D-30)-120

Self-Propelled

* 2S7 Pion - 12
* 2S19 Msta-S - 3
* 2S3 Akatsiya - 26
* VZ 77 Dana - 47

Multiple Launch Rocket Systems

* M-87 Orkan - 4
* RM-70 - 48
* BM-21 Grad - 120
* LAR-160- 15
* M-63 Plamen – 12

Mortars

* 2B11 120mm - 240
* M-38/43 120mm - 365
* M75 120mm – 250

The strength of Air Forces is 1 813 military and civilian personnel.

* 22 Su-25KM
* 13 Su-25UB
* 12 MiG-25
* 4 Su-24
* 18 MiG-21
* 11 L-39
* 2 L-29
* 1 Mi-35 "Hind"
* 19 Mi-24-P "Hind"
* 21 Mi-24-V "Hind"
* 18 Mil Mi-14
* 16 Mi-8 "Hip"
* 6 Bell-212
* 40 UH-1H
* 2 Mil Mi-2

Anti Air Defence

* 15 BUK-M1
* 38 S-125
* 18 9K33 Osa
* 35 ZSU-23-4
* 15 C-60
* 40 MT-LB with towed ZU-23

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This is exactly why we should have disbanded NATO back in the early 1990s.

Had Georgia been a member...like some of the old Eastern Bloc countries are now...the US would be OBLIGATED to recognize Russia's military action as if it was against us.

John R wrote:

This is exactly why we should have disbanded NATO back in the early 1990s.
Had Georgia been a member...like some of the old Eastern Bloc countries are now...the US would be OBLIGATED to recognize Russia's military action as if it was against us.

Yeah disband NATO Real smart, after the Olympics is over and china shows its true intent we are gonna need them.
Russia would be happy to sit back and sell china billions of dollars while it warred with the USA over control of the pacific region.

John McCain wrote:

I would order a batallion of our troops to South Carolina, one to Florida and one to patrol the Louisiana-Georgia border. Then I would bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Moscow. It takes experience to handle this kind of situation. I know how to win a war. I won the Viet Nam war. And if elected, I promise to visit Czechoslovakia, Burma and the Soviet Union.

LOL!

John McCain wrote:

I would order a batallion of our troops to South Carolina, one to Florida and one to patrol the Louisiana-Georgia border. Then I would bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Moscow. It takes experience to handle this kind of situation. I know how to win a war. I won the Viet Nam war. And if elected, I promise to visit Czechoslovakia, Burma and the Soviet Union.

ha!ha! good one!

Leave it alone, we are screwed up in our own B.S. I suppose G.B will want to get involved. He preaches about the injustice in China and it is going on here in the name of Democracy.

John wrote:

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Yeah disband NATO Real smart, after the Olympics is over and china shows its true intent we are gonna need them.
Russia would be happy to sit back and sell china billions of dollars while it warred with the USA over control of the pacific region.

Sell China dollars? Why would ... what? The Chinese and Russians rarely agree. They might vote together on the security council, but that's because they both want to dominate Asia.

I'm not sure what moral authority the U.S. has here. We encouraged Kosovo's sovereignty; if the Ossetians want secession it would be inconsistent to back Georgia (though, admittedly, I'm not an expert on the entanglements).

Another thought, screw NATO and the UN, worry about our own first.

Make no mistake, there will be all out war soon.

I hope it all goes well for Georgia. I've always been one to support the underdog though.

So, crap in a tank, your not one to help your friends when they get into a bit of trouble, eh?

Let's all hope George Bush doesn't want to help "stabilize" the region, or we are in for 10 more years of war.

It's strange, but Google maps shows the entire country of Georgia as a blank with no roads or cities.. is Google being evil?

the world factbook has good information

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-...

you'd think Russia would have learned

John wrote:

This is how world wars begin...georgia cant stand against russia all by itself but the question is, will someone (Like the USA or NATO) Step in to defend them.

Are people in this topic crazy or just plain stupid??
This is exact situation as it happened in Kosovo.
S. Osetia is trying to gain independence from Georgia since 1992. Last 2 polls showed 95% of it's citizens support separation. Georgia does not want to let it happen... so they finally attacked S. Osetia... Russia has stepped in as it (1.) has a military agreement to protect S. Osetia from (any country's) invasion and (2) Several thousand citizens of Russia live in S. Osetia.

Do you think the timing is a little suspicious??(right on the day of the opening of Olympics.. when both US and Russian heads are right next to each other).

Would US step in if say.. Puerto Rico was being attacked???

John McCain wrote:

I would order a batallion of our troops to South Carolina, one to Florida and one to patrol the Louisiana-Georgia border. Then I would bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Moscow. It takes experience to handle this kind of situation. I know how to win a war. I won the Viet Nam war. And if elected, I promise to visit Czechoslovakia, Burma and the Soviet Union.

John, we know you've already visited Persia. Maybe you should consider stopping by Siam this time around?