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Aurora police probe incident near Planned Parenthood clinic

Authorities are seeking a woman accused of harassing and grabbing an employee of an Aurora clinic that offers abortions and has been the site of protests and conflict.

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Kudos

Carpentersville, IL

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Jan 7, 2009
 
A picture on line would have been more helpful.

I'm glad the police are taking this seriously.
Merv

Oak Lawn, IL

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Jan 7, 2009
 
There's a difference between free speech and personal harassment. The work the clinic does is completely legal ---most of it providing free women's health exams, while also terminating unwanted pregnancies. Stalking employees to intimidate them and grabbing them (possibly assault) should be appropriately punished by the law. Protesters have the right to make their opposition to the clinic known, but must remain within the bounds of the laws of the land.
Emmeline

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Jan 7, 2009
 
Oh, that's a good one. The Pro-Life guy doesn't think anyone in his group would have physically harassed one of the employees. Since these people believe God is on their side, I think they'd do just about anything and consider it divine justice.
Maxine

Elk Grove Village, IL

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Jan 7, 2009
 
OoooH someone touched an abortionist's arm. What about abortionists performing abortions on minors without notifying the police regarding child rape?

How about showing what they do at that clinic on TV? We see every thing else on TV from autopsies to brain and sex change surgery. After all all they are only dedicated healers removing lumps of tissue right?
Just the Facts

Arona, PA

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Jan 7, 2009
 
Art, As a man, especially as a man, where do you get the right to judge what decisions are made between a women and her doctor including terminating a fetus? Oh, by the way when was the last time you adopted a unwanted child ?
Outa State

Birmingham, AL

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Jan 7, 2009
 
Just the Facts wrote:
Art, As a man, especially as a man, where do you get the right to judge what decisions are made between a women and her doctor including terminating a fetus? Oh, by the way when was the last time you adopted a unwanted child ?
Why do these stupid arguments get repeated ad nauseum? The MAN who contributed half the baby's genetic material certainly DOES have a say in whether the BABY lives or dies. A large percentage of our population - including women - believes abortion is the murder of a baby. Terms like "terminating a fetus" are used only by the pro-abortion crowd in an attempt to dehumanize the baby - like maybe if it was allowed to live full-term, it would develop into a rutabaga or something. Since when should only women be allowed to have an opinion on murder? And the adoption scenario? Gosh, I don't think Hitler should have exterminated all those Jews, but I don't think that obligates me to adopt them, does it?
Godwin_Alert

Schaumburg, IL

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Jan 7, 2009
 
Bzzzzt! I'm sorry, "Outa State" has ended the conversation by bringing up Nazis. Thanks to all our contestants for playing I Know What God Thinks, And He Agrees With Me! See you next time!
slice it any way u want

Chicago, IL

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#10
Jan 7, 2009
 
Just another Pro-Life Christian threatening to take the life of someone else and physically accosting them. Non story if you ask me. These "protesters" are wacko.
ding

Chicago, IL

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Jan 7, 2009
 
@Art: though a man certainly has an *opinion*, the final decision remains with the woman, her doctor, her own moral conscious and spiritual guide.

unless you're an advocate of forcing women to give birth against their will.

because that's a whole other argument entirely.
Outa State

Birmingham, AL

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Jan 7, 2009
 
Godwin_Alert wrote:
Bzzzzt! I'm sorry, "Outa State" has ended the conversation by bringing up Nazis. Thanks to all our contestants for playing I Know What God Thinks, And He Agrees With Me! See you next time!
If you didn't understand my post, just say so. I'll write it in smaller words for you. I didn't mention God, did I? My point is that possessing a penis does not disqualify one from having an opinion on this issue - and neither does the question of whether or not someone has adopted a child.
Michael Anthony

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Jan 7, 2009
 
Maxine wrote:
OoooH someone touched an abortionist's arm. What about abortionists performing abortions on minors without notifying the police regarding child rape?
How about showing what they do at that clinic on TV? We see every thing else on TV from autopsies to brain and sex change surgery. After all all they are only dedicated healers removing lumps of tissue right?
Your comments are not surprising, wild assertions about children and rape. If you have truly have facts about things like this, it is your DUTY to notify state health officals. Its also not surprising to see that you have no qualms about harrassment and possible battery. I presume then if I grabbed your arm in a store and proceeded to lecture you about being Pro-Choice, you would have no problem with it?
Perhaps you could also start a 24 hour a day cable access program that airs images you want us all to see. Most educated people already know the FACTS about abortion. Perhaps you can enlighten the few remaining people in this country about the horrors of which you speak?
confusedbyurlogi c

Chicago, IL

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Jan 7, 2009
 
So the anti-government/anti-choice crowd doesn't think government should have the power to tax income, but they believe the government should be able to force woman to push unwanted children thru their baginas, and if the baby can't go thru the bagina, the government has the power to order a doctor to cut the mother's stomach open? Bizarre to say the least.
Outa State

Birmingham, AL

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Jan 7, 2009
 
ding wrote:
@Art: though a man certainly has an *opinion*, the final decision remains with the woman, her doctor, her own moral conscious and spiritual guide.
unless you're an advocate of forcing women to give birth against their will.
because that's a whole other argument entirely.
Then, since the birth is entirely optional on the woman's part, you would argue that men have no obligation to pay child support because the woman CHOSE to have the baby, right?
Just the Facts

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Jan 7, 2009
 
Outa State wrote:
<quoted text>Why do these stupid arguments get repeated ad nauseum? The MAN who contributed half the baby's genetic material certainly DOES have a say in whether the BABY lives or dies. A large percentage of our population - including women - believes abortion is the murder of a baby. Terms like "terminating a fetus" are used only by the pro-abortion crowd in an attempt to dehumanize the baby - like maybe if it was allowed to live full-term, it would develop into a rutabaga or something. Since when should only women be allowed to have an opinion on murder? And the adoption scenario? Gosh, I don't think Hitler should have exterminated all those Jews, but I don't think that obligates me to adopt them, does it?
The men that contribute to conceiving life DON'T have any legal right to terminate or continue life. but for a couple that choose, especially a single women who chooses to terminate a FETUS (which it is), Don't need any legal crap from people like you who need to stay out of decision making between a doctor and their patients. It's none of your frickin business. Maybe we wouldn't have so many unwanted children in need of adopted families if you prolifers adopted more. BTW the pro life/adoption argument has nothing to do with Hitler and his extermination. That's a very STUPID argument

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Jan 7, 2009
 
So why isn't this considered terrorism? We have physical violence done to further a religious cause. I guess some kinds of terrorism is acceptable to conservatives.

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Jan 7, 2009
 
Anne wrote:
While Zell's newspaper reports on abortion clinics, it failed again to report of yet another attack on a Christian Church in San Francisco the other day.
Ever stop to think it wasn't reported because it's on the other side of the country and this story is local? A better question would be, ever stop to think at all?
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Jan 7, 2009
 
moquif wrote:
So why isn't this considered terrorism? We have physical violence done to further a religious cause. I guess some kinds of terrorism is acceptable to conservatives.
Best. Post. Ever.

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Jan 7, 2009
 
Maxine wrote:
OoooH someone touched an abortionist's arm.
That's legally called assault and when you do it to further a religious/political agenda it's called terrorism. So, Maxine, are you supporting terrorism by dismissing this crime?
civil rights supporter

Chicago, IL

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Jan 7, 2009
 
Emmeline wrote:
Oh, that's a good one. The Pro-Life guy doesn't think anyone in his group would have physically harassed one of the employees. Since these people believe God is on their side, I think they'd do just about anything and consider it divine justice.
I'm not surprised. I beleive this is the same guy who once used a megaphone to harass a pregnant 11 y o and her mother and then bragged about it as a great publicity tactic afterward. It was covered in one of Eric Zorn's columns.
Outa State

Birmingham, AL

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Jan 7, 2009
 
Just the Facts wrote:
<quoted text>
The men that contribute to conceiving life DON'T have any legal right to terminate or continue life. but for a couple that choose, especially a single women who chooses to terminate a FETUS (which it is), Don't need any legal crap from people like you who need to stay out of decision making between a doctor and their patients. It's none of your frickin business.
Take a deep breath now - it'll be all right. Really. I don't need your permission to have an opinion on this or any other subject, so just get over yourself.
Maybe we wouldn't have so many unwanted children in need of adopted families if you prolifers adopted more.
Us prolifers already adopt quite a few, actually. But maybe we wouldn't have so many unwanted children if you pro-choicers would work as hard to prevent pregnancy as you do to kill babies that are conceived due to your irresponsible behavior.
BTW the pro life/adoption argument has nothing to do with Hitler and his extermination. That's a very STUPID argument
Only to those who don't understand it.
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