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****
Tamaroa, IL
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Tex wrote: <quoted text> The first step to recovery is to realize you have a problem. You are on the road to recovery. As soon as you can figure out how to put a .38 in your mouth and SQUEEZE, you'll be a better person. you seem to post a lot about wanting people to die, you really are weird,
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Tex
Chambersburg, PA
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[QUOTE who=" **** "]<quoted text> you seem to post a lot about wanting people to die, you really are weird,[/QUOTE] Yea, Like you're not??
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Tom
Pensacola, FL
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Dave wrote: 2.4 trillion is what we pay a year. The 1.05 trillion is over the next ten years. Trying to add the two just shows what a frickin idiot you are. "not one dime" Dave?
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Dave
Murphysboro, IL
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Tom wrote: <quoted text> "not one dime" Dave? So I see that you join John Boy as a frickin idiot thinking those two numbers added together actually mean anything. So now this is a tax on the middle class? Yea Right. Poor Tommy, afraid his cadillac health insurance plan might get taxed. Awwwwwwww.
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Dave
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Deficit nuetral means that the bill is paid for. It provides the funding thru increased revenues or savings in other areas as not to add to the natiuonal debt. The CBO says it even goes farther & reduces the deficit over the 10 year span.
This is by the CBO.
The CBO in the report that you posted said the those participating as an individual would likey see higher premiums in that individual market (if they had no health issues) but, and this is one big but, lower premiums would exist in the exchanges formed by the bill. i.e. LOWER premiums.
Actually, millions of small businesses who currently offer health insurance benefits (not the cheapazzes in John Boy post) will save money because they will be part of a larger pool. Yep, that aspect of our economy that provides the most jobs will save money.
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Franklin County Native
Warren, MI
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Would one of you oh-so-intelligent Democrats please explain to me why, if this health care bill is so great, won't all of our wonderful Congressmen take part in it, since they are FORCING it on us? What's good for the goose is good for the gander, but in this case, it's evident that what's good enough for the gander is not good enough for the goose. I'm sure they're all saying, "Close enough for government work!!!"
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Tex
Chambersburg, PA
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LIL JOHN wrote: <quoted text> Paid for by who ?? The proverbial money tree or by the citizens of this Country? Taxes, cuts in medicare , penalties, increased premiums!!! Or are you saying it's free?? BTW MONEY BAGS ON TOP OF YOUIR 40% EXCISE TAX YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY , YOU WILL ALSO HAVE TO PAY A 5.4 % SURTAX ON INCOME!! Now go find your money tree! Let's see if I understand you. No taxes, no government, and heck no, no opposition to the Radical right wing branch of the Repuklican Party. Gee, let's see! Doesn't that sound like Anarchy? Next step is for Repuklican death squads. Hello Argentina.
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Tex
Chambersburg, PA
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You have a real ability to NOt realizr that we all in this together. So group dynamics doesn't not apply to the United States. Only wingnut radical Repuklicans? I'm glad you're backing up the U.S.
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Franklin County Native
Warren, MI
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Franklin County Native wrote: Would one of you oh-so-intelligent Democrats please explain to me why, if this health care bill is so great, won't all of our wonderful Congressmen take part in it, since they are FORCING it on us? What's good for the goose is good for the gander, but in this case, it's evident that what's good enough for the gander is not good enough for the goose. I'm sure they're all saying, "Close enough for government work!!!" Seventeen hours with no answer from the left.
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LIL JOHN
Plainfield, PA
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Franklin County Native wrote: <quoted text> Seventeen hours with no answer from the left. Good luck on getting your answer .. LOLOLOL
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Dave
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Franklin County Native wrote: Would one of you oh-so-intelligent Democrats please explain to me why, if this health care bill is so great, won't all of our wonderful Congressmen take part in it, since they are FORCING it on us? What's good for the goose is good for the gander, but in this case, it's evident that what's good enough for the gander is not good enough for the goose. I'm sure they're all saying, "Close enough for government work!!!" What a dolt. No one is forcing anyone to take part in the piblic option. If you have coverage now, you can keep it. Why is that so freakin hard for you to understand. Looking for an answer, the answer is this: If you have coverage now from your employer, nothing has to change. The Congress have the same plan as federal employees. They have options to pick from. If you work & your employer could offer you options as many do. If a Congressman opted to take part in the government option, then he could. But he might do better, as many would, with the plan offered by their employer.
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LIL JOHN
Plainfield, PA
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Dave wrote: <quoted text> What a dolt. No one is forcing anyone to take part in the piblic option. If you have coverage now, you can keep it. Why is that so freakin hard for you to understand. Looking for an answer, the answer is this: If you have coverage now from your employer, nothing has to change. The Congress have the same plan as federal employees. They have options to pick from. If you work & your employer could offer you options as many do. If a Congressman opted to take part in the government option, then he could. But he might do better, as many would, with the plan offered by their employer. What a non-answer --------- When an employer decides it's cheaper to just pay the penalty instead of insurance there is only one place to go -- the gov option That's exactly what they want to happen! then they got ya!
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Tex
Chambersburg, PA
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LIL JOHN wrote: <quoted text> What a non-answer --------- When an employer decides it's cheaper to just pay the penalty instead of insurance there is only one place to go -- the gov option That's exactly what they want to happen! then they got ya! But you said the penalty was a 'death option' for small companies? Have you changed your mind? or just lost it? It's gonna happen, and you can't do squat about it. Kinda sounds like Karl and da' boys.
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Lefty
Shippensburg, PA
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LIL JOHN wrote: <quoted text> What a non-answer --------- When an employer decides it's cheaper to just pay the penalty instead of insurance there is only one place to go -- the gov option That's exactly what they want to happen! then they got ya! But I thought the penalty was jail time and huge fines!! Make up your lil mind, can't have it both ways! Yeah they got ya alright! Nancy got ya insurance moron!
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LIL JOHN
Plainfield, PA
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Lefty wrote: <quoted text> But I thought the penalty was jail time and huge fines!! Make up your lil mind, can't have it both ways! Yeah they got ya alright! Nancy got ya insurance moron! Look up the word--individual! What a moron!
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Tex
Chambersburg, PA
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LIL JOHN wrote: <quoted text> Maybe you ought to re-read rthe post ! When ''''an employer'''' decides it's cheaper to just pay the penalty instead of insurance there is only one place to go -- the gov option Duh -- I can understand your confusion , it's way over your head , as usual! I've been standing on you head for so many months.'Course, a basement dweller, doesn't have much to look up to.
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****
Tamaroa, IL
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Tex wrote: <quoted text> I've been standing on you head for so many months.'Course, a basement dweller, doesn't have much to look up to. Why do leftists always have to lie to prove a point?
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LIL JOHN
Plainfield, PA
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[QUOTE who=" **** "]<quoted text>Why do leftists always have to lie to prove a point? [/QUOTE]
Becausae it's easier than reading the news....
Spoon fed by the likes if mediamatters , the daily kos and others !
you don't see them use any news from honest news outlets , just regurgitated stories from the sites above !
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Tex
Chambersburg, PA
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LIL JOHN wrote: <quoted text> Becausae it's easier than reading the news.... Spoon fed by the likes if mediamatters , the daily kos and others ! you don't see them use any news from honest news outlets , just regurgitated stories from the sites above ! What's your source? Faux News and the other Conservative sources? Don't you ever go 'over the mountain' and read something else. You seem to not bea able to assimilate different sources to make a logical statement.
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LIL JOHN
Plainfield, PA
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Tex wrote: <quoted text> What's your source? Faux News and the other Conservative sources? Don't you ever go 'over the mountain' and read something else. You seem to not bea able to assimilate different sources to make a logical statement. Poor child has to repeat his lame pathetic excuses!
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