Letter to the Editor: Single payer care is the way to go

LIL JOHN wrote:

The tea party mindset of "everything is for sale," including "legislation and subsidies," is the major cause of a partial list of 250 republicans caught up in corruption over the last decade
Could we possibly see that list or is that list only in your frikin head?
3% vs 14%, save the county,---yada yada yada
Your post is so disjointed , are you off your meds again???

LIL JOHN, I agree with you, Wagner has a "screw loose."

Marlin, the P.O. shortchanged you. Weddle's LTE was published on Sunday and your delirium was revealed on Monday which reduces dissemination. Could it be that the P.O. realizes that the "public option" or single-payer or "government option" is a sure deficit exploding destructive act if such legislation were enacted? Marlin, if you read these posts please explain why Obama & his Chicago henchmen are out to destroy America? Why inflict a "cap and trade" punishment on small businesses and individuals particularly during a bad recession and when unemployment will remain at 10 percent for some years ahead.

Oh we'll all pay,thru the nose that is.

The Senate Majority Leader from Searchlight, Nevada, stuck the "public option" back into the bill to placate his Nevada supporters, shrinking in quantity, so some of them will vote to keep his sorry arsch in office. It's a matter of time before Harry Reid steps up to a microphone, faces the TV cameras, and speaks about Afghanistan: "The war is lost." He was wrong about Iraq. That won't deter Harry. He'll try again. Why, you wonder, haven't you seen Jack Murtha spouting off about Afghanistan recently? Ol' Jack is being investigated by the Ethics folks in Congress. Rightly so.

The only single payer I want is me. If the government is paying the bills the government decides who they will pay, how much they will pay and for what they will pay. If that isn't government control of health care I don't know what else you could call it. It is then a short step for the government to decide that if you are 10 pounds over the weight that they say you should be that they won't pay for orthopedic care or diabetes medication or high blood pressure treatment. Now the liberals will say that "no one is talking about that kind of control!" (insert whiny voice yourself) Of course they aren't, not out loud anyway.

Grumpy wrote:

The only single payer I want is me. If the government is paying the bills the government decides who they will pay, how much they will pay and for what they will pay. If that isn't government control of health care I don't know what else you could call it.

You just described what insurance companies already do.

Grumpy wrote:

It is then a short step for the government to decide that if you are 10 pounds over the weight that they say you should be that they won't pay for orthopedic care or diabetes medication or high blood pressure treatment. Now the liberals will say that "no one is talking about that kind of control!"

Actually the insurance companies already have that kind of control, so what are you so scared of?

What a way to start the week. More nonsense from Franklin County's resident Socialist.

Like Grumps actually pays for his health insurance.

Like John Boy, these people get their healthcare handed to them by the government & then pretend to be outraged buy their big fat lie about government control of healthcare.

Dave wrote:

Like Grumps actually pays for his health insurance.
Like John Boy, these people get their healthcare handed to them by the government & then pretend to be outraged buy their big fat lie about government control of healthcare.

Your as ignorant as your post. Fed employees do not have their healthcare handed to them and if this passes our rates will increase 48.8% to pay for your healthcare, not fair at all but that is what socialism is all about huh Dave?

Dave wrote:

Like Grumps actually pays for his health insurance.
Like John Boy, these people get their healthcare handed to them by the government & then pretend to be outraged buy their big fat lie about government control of healthcare.

Like you are not a Liberal. Like you are another fooled by Obummer. Like you forgot to blame Bush. Like you do not understand that the healthcare system is one-sixth of the U.S. economy and the Obummer gang wants total control.

Tom wrote:

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Your as ignorant as your post. Fed employees do not have their healthcare handed to them and if this passes our rates will increase 48.8% to pay for your healthcare, not fair at all but that is what socialism is all about huh Dave?

You work for the government? And you're always complaining about the ineptitude and wastefulness of government. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and eliminate wasteful spending of taxpayer money by quitting your job?

Chambersburg wrote:

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You just described what insurance companies already do.
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Actually the insurance companies already have that kind of control, so what are you so scared of?

OH BS. The operative word is company. If companies could compete across state lines and state government would stop regulating what insurance companies can and can't do there would be real competition which might actually reduce expense and give consumers a choice.

George wrote:

<quoted text>Like you are not a Liberal. Like you are another fooled by Obummer. Like you forgot to blame Bush. Like you do not understand that the healthcare system is one-sixth of the U.S. economy and the Obummer gang wants total control.

OK George, explain where this control, comes from & from whom he would be talking it.

This is all we hear from you right wing idiots. Where is this new found control?

If offering a health insurance policy is that maybe 10 or 12% of the population might opt for is control, then then the insurance companies control it now.

Do YOU understand that it is 15% now & if we do nothing will be 20% within 10 years? Well, come on, explain how that would be so good.

Chambersburg wrote:

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You work for the government? And you're always complaining about the ineptitude and wastefulness of government. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and eliminate wasteful spending of taxpayer money by quitting your job?

And I'm getting a big raise! LOL!

Grumpy wrote:

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OH BS. The operative word is company. If companies could compete across state lines and state government would stop regulating what insurance companies can and can't do there would be real competition which might actually reduce expense and give consumers a choice.

Companies can & do compete across state lines. They just have to meet each state's requirements.

This is just another argument that shows why the right is feeble minded.
You would not get cheaper insurance but rather have the option to buy less of a policy.

Here I thought you right wingers were all about states rights. But hey, I forgot, that only applies to YOUIR agenda items.

Abortion is illegal federally so you freakin morons run around screamining state's rights.

**** Marriage is OK in some states so you frerakin morons run around screaming amendment to the Constitution or other federal action.

So please, save your **** arguments for your feeble minded Rep[ublican buddies who are easily duped by their stupid argument.

Tom wrote:

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Your as ignorant as your post. Fed employees do not have their healthcare handed to them and if this passes our rates will increase 48.8% to pay for your healthcare, not fair at all but that is what socialism is all about huh Dave?

1) You have a cadillac plan but tell me that you poor poor federal employees have to pay for some of it. Well guess what, Tummy, you can choose less of a plan & avoid the tax.

2) I buy my own policy, so you ain't paying for any of mine so shove that excuse you know where.

Another person on the government dole complaining about insurance that is partially funded by the government.

Dave wrote:

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1) You have a cadillac plan but tell me that you poor poor federal employees have to pay for some of it. Well guess what, Tummy, you can choose less of a plan & avoid the tax.
2) I buy my own policy, so you ain't paying for any of mine so shove that excuse you know where.
Another person on the government dole complaining about insurance that is partially funded by the government.

So you will get hit with the increase too!

Partial funded by the government because the government is my employer just like any other firm providing benefits to its employees, no different Davy.

Tom wrote:

Partial funded by the government because the government is my employer just like any other firm providing benefits to its employees, no different Davy.

If you are supposed to work for the government, try working instead of posting your nonsense all day. You put your time in and collect a government check, you don't work. You are an expense, you contribute nothing to the economy. You are a total waste of tax payer money.

Government can't keep the roads, schools, or anything else running efficiently, and you want to let them take over healthcare? Single-payer, socialized medicine is a disaster anywhere it exists. Long waits for service and rationed care is the norm. If you are Marlin Wagner's age, you don't get needed care at all, because the government just wants you to die.
Marlin is repeating another "big lie" by mentioning big insurance company profits. Health insurance companies average around 3% profit, much less than any other industry.