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'Free' education Editor: Let me warn parents of small children: start saving now for your child's "free public education." I have three children attending Carlsbad public schools.
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#41
Sep 11, 2008
 
Parents are always complaining about the quality of education in New Mexico,yet when someone tries to make a difference, people whine and complain. Band is not required at PR, but one of the required music electives. Many studies have shown how learning to read music improves academic growth, especially in Math. It is a privledge to take band and choir. Many parents have never exposed their children to music lessons and this is the first opportunity for a child to play an instrument in their life. How would they ever know if they would enjoy it, if it was never offered to them? My son had to chose band or choir in 6th grade when we were in Michigan. He chose band because he knew he couldn't sing. It turned out to be one of his favorite subjects. It is a fantastic outlet for a child who has trouble sitting in a classroom all day long. Mr. Young and the other band teachers at AV and CHS have gone above and beyond to get students interested in joining the band. They put many extra hours and efforts into teaching the students and making it fun. Sometimes this may be the only positive school experience for kids. Please don't be negative about having to take band, because your negativity will be transferred to your child. Most children will really enjoy this class and will benefit in many ways. Please talk to the band teacher and they will work with you if you cannot afford an instrument. Also, if your child drops out, sell your instrument when they quit. There will always be parents who will be looking for a good instrument next year.
katrina

Levelland, TX

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#42
Sep 11, 2008
 
I have tried to post my side numerous times, but it won't post. Maybe it's too long or something so I will try and keep this short and sweet.
I am well aware of all the choices, however, that doesn't change my view. I will not discuss the letter at this time.
I would like to address those that are trying to exploit my personal life. Famous Mtv quote here: "you think you know, but you have no idea". You did get a few things correct, and I'll give you credit fot that. And I won't address my finances or much of my personal life right now. I don't know what I personally did to you to make you so mad at me. The letter to the editor wasn't directed at you personally.
I am just sooo hoping that the person/s who seem to know me are not friends, family, or co-workers of mine or my husband's. I am also hoping that the person/s (or their spouse) who seem to know me aren't affialiated with the school system. I am saddended at the thought of losing a friend. Friends are so hard to come by, especially ones that you trust.
Since you claim to know me and my family so well, you should also know my home and cell #. Please call me so we can talk about where the friendship went wrong. Maybe we could go out for drinks. I have an idea of what your favorite drink is (*wink*) You did claim that I'm a boozer, so you should know that I don't drink alone. Only socially when in the company of family or good friends. Please call me.
BTW-if I had such an unhappy life at home, don't you think I would leave? I mean, after all, you said that my husband is JUST a custodian right? And that he doesn't pay for the bills, so I obviously don't depend on him for money.
katrina

Levelland, TX

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#43
Sep 11, 2008
 
That is a good post band parent....seriously. I loved band when I took it as a kid. And I also loved going to my oldest kid's band concerts. Mr. Galindo is a great band teacher. I will continue to enjoy band with my other children as well. I do not have negativity towards band at all. My negativity stems from the cost of band when a child doesn't choose it. There are so many parents out there working 2-3 jobs already just to pay bills and buy groceries. Then you add the expense of an instrument? That makes it hard. Yes, there are options, I have talked to Mr. Cahenzli, and realize the options. I have also read the letter that was sent out. Options consist of 1)choosing band, PE, reading, or chorus. However, if PE, reading, or chorus are full, your child gets put into band. If he/she is placed in band these are the options 1)mouth pieces will be provided so instruments can be shared. Did the school purchase enough instruments to be shared? What about concerts? Will there be enough instruments for every one? Are they allowed to take it home for practice? 2)a loaner instrument for a small fee every month. Who will be paying the fee if a parent can't? 3)purchase the instrument. They aren't cheap. If none of these options suit parent/child, just transfer to AV.... some parents are feeling "backed into a corner"
Another question: If it is suppose to help kids academically (with math), why isn't the cirriculum set up in the same manner for AV? Maybe because they're doing a trial run? I really don't know. The school system obviously knew parents wouldn't be able to afford an instrument or not like the choices, they transferred a teacher to AV for this reason. Personally, I love concert and classical music.....along with rock, and blues.
In all honesty, it doesn't affect me yet. But it soon will. However, I am blessed with a decent paying job, and have a savings account. I am not rich, nor am I poor. I do not brag about my income, but I'm not ashamed of my earnings either. I've worked extremely hard to get where I'm at. Sadly, there are parents out there who aren't as fortunate.
As for the calculator issue: there are also options to this as well. They do have loaner calculators that the kid can use at school only. It is recommended that parents purchase one so they can be able to use it for home work as well. The quote of $85 is the price at wal-mart. Some people do not have internet or e-bay, and will pay that price at the store. Too bad these calculators aren't sold at garage sales cuz I would've saved a lot of money......LOL
Hopeful

Carlsbad, NM

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#44
Sep 11, 2008
 
I don't feel that band or chior should be mandatory at one middle school and not the other. This is a policy that should be reviewed by upper administration. Why should one band director have to work his tail off to recruit while the other has the students handed to him. This goes back to the elitist attitude that exists between PR and AV. Most of the PR kids will be quitting to go into Cheerleading and Athletics. It would make more sense to make Band and Chior mandetory at AV where the student will appreciate being part of a program that will be there for them when they get to High School. Maybe there is politics being played by the directors at PR Leyva.
Hopeful

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#45
Sep 11, 2008
 
remove wrote:
moderator why have you not removed the personal posts? you have done it before. the topic went the wrong way, treat it right and do the right thing, remove it. any body else agree?
The moderator has removed posts that are not to his political thinking.

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#46
Sep 12, 2008
 
katrina wrote:
My negativity stems from the cost of band when a child doesn't choose it. There are so many parents out there working 2-3 jobs already just to pay bills and buy groceries. Then you add the expense of an instrument? That makes it hard. Yes, there are options, I have talked to Mr. Cahenzli, and realize the options. I have also read the letter that was sent out. Options consist of 1)choosing band, PE, reading, or chorus. However, if PE, reading, or chorus are full, your child gets put into band. If he/she is placed in band these are the options 1)mouth pieces will be provided so instruments can be shared. Did the school purchase enough instruments to be shared? What about concerts? Will there be enough instruments for every one? Are they allowed to take it home for practice? 2)a loaner instrument for a small fee every month. Who will be paying the fee if a parent can't? 3)purchase the instrument. They aren't cheap. If none of these options suit parent/child, just transfer to AV.... some parents are feeling "backed into a corner"
Another question: If it is suppose to help kids academically (with math), why isn't the cirriculum set up in the same manner for AV? Maybe because they're doing a trial run? I really don't know. The school system obviously knew parents wouldn't be able to afford an instrument or not like the choices, they transferred a teacher to AV for this reason.
In all honesty, it doesn't affect me yet. But it soon will.
As for the calculator issue: there are also options to this as well. They do have loaner calculators that the kid can use at school only. It is recommended that parents purchase one so they can be able to use it for home work as well. The quote of $85 is the price at wal-mart. Some people do not have internet or e-bay, and will pay that price at the store. Too bad these calculators aren't sold at garage sales cuz I would've saved a lot of money......LOL
Not to be disrespectful Katrina, but I feel your original letter to the editor was not researched well and like lots of people who like to kick up the dust, you didn't take into consideration all the options that you mentioned in the above post, which makes me question your intentions. All those questions you posted above as far, mouthpieces, if the instruments could be taken home, are there enough instruments, if a parent can't afford the small monthly fee and so forth should all have been questions you had the answers to before you wrote a letter to the editor. You brought negativity to a program that is in place to bring exposure and positivity to the students. Before all the truth was exposed about this program, even to me you made me question the way this system was set and now from seeing the TRUTH (not put forward by you) I see that school has allowed for many options. Is a student going to be expelled if they do not have anyway whatsoever to get an instrument? I seriously doubt, I read about even scholarships available to low income families to cover the small monthly fee.
And again with calculators, in the letter to the editor you didn't mention of the options that you so miraculously figured out in the post above. And as far as them not being sold at yardsales, I've seen them lots of times at yardsales. And we also have a radio show called "Let's Trade Even" where a parent could call and possibly get one for cheap. There are lots of ways to figure things out besides griping about them and I wish you would have looked at wider spectrum of ideas before you started complaining.

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Since: Jun 08

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#47
Sep 12, 2008
 
Katrina, i understand what you're saying. It's not that band is good or bad. It's about choices. The school shouldn't thrust a choice upon you that costs you money if it's something you don't want for your child.

Maybe PR should diversify its arts offerings. Turn one PE class into a dance class. Add a semester of speech and drama. Expand art offerings. Give the kids more choices. It's hyp[ocritical to rag on jr. high kids all day about making meaningful choices and then not give them any good options...on top of demonstrating that you don't give a damn what the parents think or say.
DAM

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#48
Sep 12, 2008
 
Basically, if the parents do not purchase these items to help their child's classroom, who do you think would have to? The teacher! I think it's the least a parent can do to help the teacher, their child, the classroom and their kid's school. Good grief moms and dads, think about your complaints. Your child is getting an education and you have to pay for a few supplies while you have a babysitter while you either work or play all day. That's not a bad exchange. All that students and children have to do is follow the rules and help out a little. That's a pretty cheap 13 years of education in my book. Of course classes that require special aids to participate should be at the parents cost. It's UNBELIEVABLE that "parents" choose to have kids and then expect others to raise them and provide for them.
I applaud the parents who devote themselves to raising their kids, financially and emotionally!
dragonlady

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#49
Sep 12, 2008
 
CALCULATOR'S!!!! No wonder so many high school kids come in to W.M. who can't count!! There being taught to us a machine not their head's that's terrible. When I was in school using a calculator was called cheating. I certainly hope its for higher math & nothing else!! LOL
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#50
Sep 12, 2008
 
DAM wrote:
Basically, if the parents do not purchase these items to help their child's classroom, who do you think would have to? The teacher! I think it's the least a parent can do to help the teacher, their child, the classroom and their kid's school. Good grief moms and dads, think about your complaints. Your child is getting an education and you have to pay for a few supplies while you have a babysitter while you either work or play all day. That's not a bad exchange. All that students and children have to do is follow the rules and help out a little. That's a pretty cheap 13 years of education in my book. Of course classes that require special aids to participate should be at the parents cost. It's UNBELIEVABLE that "parents" choose to have kids and then expect others to raise them and provide for them.
I applaud the parents who devote themselves to raising their kids, financially and emotionally!
Again I think people are missing the point the whole letter was not about money as much as about choices. If other classes were open and her child was not forced to take band the realistic conplaint would not have been made. Thank you to all the persons who have shared their thoughts without the use of certain words. I love when people share their thoughts but wonder about their upbring when the only way they can express themselves is to cuss.
DAM

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#51
Sep 12, 2008
 
Ken, it is joy to drive Skyline Drive and Miehls Drive. Now if the walkers would use the Ocotillo Trail, life really would be happier.
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#53
Sep 12, 2008
 
phenomenalwoman wrote:
Katrina, i understand what you're saying. It's not that band is good or bad. It's about choices. The school shouldn't thrust a choice upon you that costs you money if it's something you don't want for your child.
Maybe PR should diversify its arts offerings. Turn one PE class into a dance class. Add a semester of speech and drama. Expand art offerings. Give the kids more choices. It's hyp[ocritical to rag on jr. high kids all day about making meaningful choices and then not give them any good options...on top of demonstrating that you don't give a damn what the parents think or say.
It costs money to "diversify its arts offerings." The school offers these electives based upon the staff on hand. It is possible that the teachers who would otherwise be qualified to teach speech/drama are already teaching a full load. Just because one is a PE teacher does not qualify one to teach dance. Maybe these are the questions to ask if you decide to attend the next board meeting.
I believe the "meaningful choices" you refer to are more about life choices rather than academic. Just because the schools cannot offer a multitude of electives does not mean it does not care what parents think. On the contrary, the schools are trying to offer classes based upon the staff it currently employs.

Having said this, I think it is great that you continue to offer solutions rather than just complain.
Just asking

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#54
Sep 12, 2008
 
This is just a question so don't jump down my throat. Is it true that the Leyva Principle sent letters home that stated that if parents didn't like their child having to take choir or band, they could go to AV?

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Sep 12, 2008
 
Just asking wrote:
This is just a question so don't jump down my throat. Is it true that the Leyva Principle sent letters home that stated that if parents didn't like their child having to take choir or band, they could go to AV?
I hadn't heard anything about such a letter, but if its so, I'm sure it has already been brought to the attention of central office.
Hopeful

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#56
Sep 12, 2008
 
Will the Schools pick up the tab for sending children to AV out of their district? The gas money and time may cost more than the instrument, and that is what they are counting on. PR and AV should be equal in cirriculam and it is the Superintendents job to see that it is so.
AWC

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#57
Sep 13, 2008
 
Why does this article appear in the homeschooling section?
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#58
Jun 28, 2012
 
Why is the principal at PR still there?
She need to go.

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