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O's fall below .500

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ravenspaul Washington, DC	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| #41 May 7, 2008 The Orioles playing should be no surprise. They are living up to preseason predictions and will end the season in the basement of their division. I hope those who are die hard optimistic O's fans enjoyed the ride while it lasted, but it's time to face reality. As long as the Peter Angelos owns the team it shall be a sub par team. Well Baltimore sports fans look on the bright side football season keeps getting closer day by day. Go Ravens, RavensPaul
bmoreguy “Bmore City Boy in Catonsville” Joined: May 7, 2008 Comments: 11 Baltimore, MD ISP Location: Halethorpe, MD	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| #42 May 7, 2008 Ghost Oriole wrote: The players on the team are not good hitters. Why are you calling it a "slump"??? The leading 2007 HR hitter was Markakis with 23. Next was "Tejeda" with 18 HR's, and he's gone (note that Tejada deliberately spelled his name wrong to conceal his real age). What do you expect from this collection of over the hill hitters and bad players from the minors? If you think this is bad, wait until a few injuries knock out the best hitters. In mid April, we beat the ChiSox and then took 2 from the Yankees, scoring 20 runs in three games. A week later, when we won 4 of 6, we scored 8 runs in one win and 7 in another. The same players are hitting, they are just doing horribly right now. It's correctly called a slump. With our (IMO) even better starting pitching in May, there's no reason to think this team can't play .500 ball. And as far as the "over the hill and bad minors players" comment goes: first off, I think we did a great job in getting Jones and Scott. Let's not forget that Luke was hitting over .360 not too long ago. Adam is a great CF'er, provides speed when he does get on the basepaths, and has torn the cover off the ball at times. Give him time. The veterans mostly have career numbers that are significantly better than what they are doing right now. The averages/production of Roberts, Markakis, Hernandez, Payton, and even Millar have nowhere to go but up. I have to believe that the run production will increase.
Vance Lee Canton, OH	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| #43 May 7, 2008 The Orioles have been going through a rough patch for ten plus years.When does the smooth patch begin?
Al East Laurel, MD	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| #44 May 7, 2008 bmoreguy wrote: <quoted text> In mid April, we beat the ChiSox and then took 2 from the Yankees, scoring 20 runs in three games. A week later, when we won 4 of 6, we scored 8 runs in one win and 7 in another. The same players are hitting, they are just doing horribly right now. It's correctly called a slump. With our (IMO) even better starting pitching in May, there's no reason to think this team can't play .500 ball. And as far as the "over the hill and bad minors players" comment goes: first off, I think we did a great job in getting Jones and Scott. Let's not forget that Luke was hitting over .360 not too long ago. Adam is a great CF'er, provides speed when he does get on the basepaths, and has torn the cover off the ball at times. Give him time. The veterans mostly have career numbers that are significantly better than what they are doing right now. The averages/production of Roberts, Markakis, Hernandez, Payton, and even Millar have nowhere to go but up. I have to believe that the run production will increase. I think the pitching has shown its promise, but I'm not seeing where we're going to get much offensive output from our younger players (aside from Markakis). I know it's early, but the non-Markakis younger guys have but a handful of HRs between them, and the veterans are underperforming just like they did in 2007. Also, at least half of the starting hitters are these veterans; are there no other offensive prospects almost ready to be brought up? I don't want to scapegoat, but I have to wonder if there's someone out there to replace the Crow as our hitting coach. It seems that Rick Kranitz is getting better results from the pitchers than the esteemed Leo Mazzone, so maybe another hitting coach could get the newcomers and veterans alike performing better than they are now.
Ghost Oriole Bear, DE	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| #45 May 7, 2008 Not a fan of Ripken? Let me guess, you don't care for Grandma and apple pie either? Rainbows? Kittens? ---------- Ripken didn't care if the team won or lost. I did. Cal is all about Cal. He even ignored instructions from managers, and called plays from the field against the managers' instructions. If he wasn't somewhat attractive, or if the team had good leadership, there never would've been a streak, and Cal's stats would've been far better. Yes, a couple of days off would've helped. And I believe the stories surrounding the "blackout" night. I believe the stories about Cal not traveling with the team. I believe the stories of Cal staying in different hotels. And since friends of the family lived two doors down from the Ripkens while their house was being built, I believe the infidelity stories.
Ghost Oriole Bear, DE	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| #46 May 7, 2008 Guys who don't hit, who are currently NOT HITTING, are not in a slump. What kind of goofy logic are you using to think that if the team hits over their heads a couple of times that they're EXPECTED to hit that way all year?
terps19 Joined: Mar 25, 2008 Comments: 143 Flagstaff, AZ	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| #47 May 7, 2008 EX O Fan wrote: Well same old same old, still disgusting to watch. Tired of hearing be patient we are rebuilding. They have been saying that for 25 years since they last went to the world series. What a joke and they really expect people to root for them. They are a disgrace they way the represent this city and their fans. Hope you move!!! Toilet seat have sand paper on it this morning? Geez- if you feel that strongly, move to NY where they buy their teams and cheer for a team that the Orioles will be pounding a couple of years from now.
willig Walnut Creek, CA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| #48 May 7, 2008 Now you know how Giants fans react to a season with great pitching and powder puff hitters! Barry Bonds is still available to the Orioles!

EX O Fan Baltimore, MD	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| #49 May 7, 2008 joe wrote: <quoted text> You sound like 'ex Colt fan' too. Statistically speaking a town is only entititled to expect one championship every thirty years anyway. But many like you who gave up on the Colts, are bad fair weather fans and we are better off without you. Then why to cities like New York and Boston have several? One every 30 years, why bother.
EX O Fan Baltimore, MD	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| #50 May 7, 2008 terps19 wrote: <quoted text> Toilet seat have sand paper on it this morning? Geez- if you feel that strongly, move to NY where they buy their teams and cheer for a team that the Orioles will be pounding a couple of years from now. You mean LIGHT YEARS!!
Fredneck Frederick, MD	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| #51 May 7, 2008 The O's will lose 100 games.
Attila the Hon Chicago, IL	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| #52 May 7, 2008 Get to know Crystal Palace Baltimore! http://www.crystalpalaceusa.com/ If you're in the Baltimore area, check out the Baltimore Blast Championship Party TODAY, starting at 5:30 pm outside 1st Mariner Bank Tower on Clinton Street in Canton. Free food and soft drinks. Celebrate & enjoy! Wish I was there.
rickterp Thomasville, GA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| #53 May 7, 2008 .500? SEE YA.
jmmjr19 Great Falls, VA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| #54 May 7, 2008 Yes, I agree with Jennifer and Roy, everybody calm down. Keep in mind, after 10 years, Os are still rebuilding.
rickterp Thomasville, GA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| #55 May 7, 2008 Just checked the new Vegas line on MLB "wins and losses". You can get 25-1 odds on the Orioles finishing with 100 loses from this point. I just plunked down a yard. Seems pretty safe to me. The O's. Always giving in special ways.
John Mechanicsburg, PA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| #56 May 7, 2008 Al East wrote: <quoted text> I think the pitching has shown its promise, but I'm not seeing where we're going to get much offensive output from our younger players (aside from Markakis). I know it's early, but the non-Markakis younger guys have but a handful of HRs between them, and the veterans are underperforming just like they did in 2007. Also, at least half of the starting hitters are these veterans; are there no other offensive prospects almost ready to be brought up? I don't want to scapegoat, but I have to wonder if there's someone out there to replace the Crow as our hitting coach. It seems that Rick Kranitz is getting better results from the pitchers than the esteemed Leo Mazzone, so maybe another hitting coach could get the newcomers and veterans alike performing better than they are now. Somehow Terry Crowley is supposed to be some hitting guru? I fail to see how a team batting average next to last is a Guru.
Bob Towson, MD	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| #57 May 7, 2008 You know after 55 posts on here not one person can see that we aren't necessarily talking about wins and loses. We all know that we are rebuiding but the point that everybody fails to mention and it's very important is that by not having at least a competitive offense,you are going to hurt a guy like NICK M by not having any protection for him in the order. He is already showing signs of frustration by trying to hard to carry the load, by moving him from 2 and 3 in the order. Seriously everybody keeps saying calm down we are in a slump well people that is bullcrap. There are serious factors other then winning and losing and you can already see that in The only above average player that we have.
Finder Baltimore, MD	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| #58 May 7, 2008 Did anyone know the Burres even had a fastball?
bmoreguy “Bmore City Boy in Catonsville” Joined: May 7, 2008 Comments: 11 Baltimore, MD ISP Location: Halethorpe, MD	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| #59 May 7, 2008 Al East wrote: <quoted text> I think the pitching has shown its promise, but I'm not seeing where we're going to get much offensive output from our younger players (aside from Markakis). I know it's early, but the non-Markakis younger guys have but a handful of HRs between them, and the veterans are underperforming just like they did in 2007. Also, at least half of the starting hitters are these veterans; are there no other offensive prospects almost ready to be brought up? I don't want to scapegoat, but I have to wonder if there's someone out there to replace the Crow as our hitting coach. It seems that Rick Kranitz is getting better results from the pitchers than the esteemed Leo Mazzone, so maybe another hitting coach could get the newcomers and veterans alike performing better than they are now. I agree with you about the "offensive prospects" point. I mean, if they're willing to let Jones and Scott play, then we should be able to call up 2 or 3 more guys if the team average continues to hover around .240. I have mixed feelings about Crow. It seems that he really helps some guys, but can't get through to others. Maybe a change is in order.
Orioles Fan From New York “Orioles, Colts, Bullets ” Joined: Apr 16, 2008 Comments: 1355 Brewster, NY ISP Location: New York, NY	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| #60 May 7, 2008 joe wrote: <quoted text> You sound like 'ex Colt fan' too. Statistically speaking a town is only entititled to expect one championship every thirty years anyway. But many like you who gave up on the Colts, are bad fair weather fans and we are better off without you. I am STILL a Colts fan. I know you were directing your comment at someone else, but I couldn't help notice whenever I see "COLTS." I've been rooting for the Colts since 1971 when they lost the conference championship to the Dolphins in the Orange Bowl, and they are still my favorite. I could never stop rooting for the Colts. I would root for the Colts if they played on the moon.

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