Sapphire Energy turns algae into 'green crude' for fuel

This sounded great until I got to the part where it says that they won't say what the price will be, only that it will be "competitive" with oil.

We don't need a replacement that will be "competitive" with oil. WE NEED SOMETHING CHEAPER.-- NEXT!!

I will treat this as yet more pie-in-the-sky liberal claptrap until a more respected source than Newsday publishes findings on the technology.

Come the next few months, you won't hear anything more about this. That's because the oil compnies will "make them an offer they can't refuse"!

If and when this company makes it happen, for the love of all things sacred, please DO NOT SHIP THE TECHNOLOGY OVERSEAS.

It seems like no matter which way you turn, nothing is made in America anymore. I'd like nothing more then to point at a green slime covered gas cap and smile with pride that it was made in the USA.

Whatever wrote:

This sounded great until I got to the part where it says that they won't say what the price will be, only that it will be "competitive" with oil.
We don't need a replacement that will be "competitive" with oil. WE NEED SOMETHING CHEAPER.-- NEXT!!

of course - there's capitalism again. Just because it will cost them 50 cents a gallon to make doesnt mean they'll only charge us 1 dollar or even 2! they'll make it 350 a gallon, why - because they can. its horrendous. Call me crazy but isnt price gouging illegal??

it makes me insane. they did it with the hydrogen car too. why bother?

Fuque RePugs wrote:

If and when this company makes it happen, for the love of all things sacred, please DO NOT SHIP THE TECHNOLOGY OVERSEAS.
It seems like no matter which way you turn, nothing is made in America anymore. I'd like nothing more then to point at a green slime covered gas cap and smile with pride that it was made in the USA.

another great point. its good to know there are still some people who see it or it is. and dont like what it is!

I am sick and tired of hearing about something thats "IN DEVELOPMENT" as an alternate to oil.

Call me when something is actually available for use right now, today. Call me when I can walk into a dealership and buy a car that actually uses the new fuel. Call me when I can go to more than one gas station in my neighborhood and fill up.

Until then stop with all the wishful thinking **** from company's looking for a grant.

we can man make so many products these days, why cant we make a synthetic fuel??? aren't there people in a lab somewhere working on this?? why does it have to come from the ground & from other countries.

Jeez, cause 5 years is so far away. Please, 5 years is nothing considering how much they can make just by digging a hole and putting some nasty water in it. I think its a darn good idea not to mention it will get us off of the Middle eastern oil altogether and they can get mad at everyone else that buys their oil.

Jane R wrote:

we can man make so many products these days, why cant we make a synthetic fuel??? aren't there people in a lab somewhere working on this?? why does it have to come from the ground & from other countries.

Got any bright ideas? Ever take a science class? If it were simple, it would have been done.

John wrote:

Come the next few months, you won't hear anything more about this. That's because the oil compnies will "make them an offer they can't refuse"!

No, but if it is a viable substitute within 5 yrs. watch OPEC increase production and drive the price of oil down. Right now, oil has no competition.

Yeah great idea...but the Oil Companies will buy these guys out and as for Synthetic Fuel? I believe that the Oil Companies have already squashed that idea and any other idea that cuts into their profits.

Right on rvs call us when something is available NOW.

Always about the buck. Wish that I could raise my paycheck when ever I wanted to and still keep a job, but in teh real world you get told to SHUT UP AND COLOR or worse you get fired or . SCREW THE OIL STOCK HOLDERS!! GIVE US SOME RELIEF FROM THIS INSANE RIDE!

ok of the soap box....

that's snake oil.Another lie

Original cbs2chicago.com article: Algae: The Key To Energy Independence?
http://www.greatchange.org/bb-alcohol2.html
http://www.greatchange.org/bb-alcohol2.html
The above links are from the forum (The first one talks about BioDiesel production - its not that far away)
Don't blame ethanol demand for high food prices
Posted in the Hampton Roads Daily Press Forum

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote:

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Got any bright ideas? Ever take a science class? If it were simple, it would have been done.

I have to take issue with part of your statement. If is simple don't allow it to happen. How long have we known how to make hydrogen and oxygen from water?
I'm sure that the process is well understood by would have displaced oil so it hasn't happened. A man named Stanley Myers drove from California to the east coast on less than 30 gallons of water. he was made an offer he couldn't refuse. Officially the story goes he died of food poisoning. But the circumstances don't really point that way. There is to much on the net for using water as an energy source for it to be false.
Try an internet site at h2earth.org
What we need is another program like the one that took us to the moon. Start thinking outside the box. As for something original let's try throwing away the box. The algae solution sounds interesting but how much land will it take? Ethanol sounded interesting but then we realized that we can't grow enough to make a difference. So let's get together and start with a clean slate and do something about our energy problems.

Joe Sixpack wrote:

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I have to take issue with part of your statement. If is simple don't allow it to happen. How long have we known how to make hydrogen and oxygen from water?

Exactly my point. We do know how to do this. Take a science class and you will learn that it is necessary to input energy to separate hydrogen from oxygen in water. The energy input makes it a net energy loss. Whoever figures out a cheap, energy efficient way to separate hydrogen will get rich very fast. Get to work.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote:

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Exactly my point. We do know how to do this. Take a science class and you will learn that it is necessary to input energy to separate hydrogen from oxygen in water. The energy input makes it a net energy loss. Whoever figures out a cheap, energy efficient way to separate hydrogen will get rich very fast. Get to work.

I've finished reading the site and links at Sapphire Energy. Initially the tech looks good but that could be hype. From the info it looks like the oil companies could get involved. Since the tech would use their refineries and pipe line infrastructure. That would be a saving grace as far as the oil companies are concerned. Take a look and see what may be happening.

Internal combustion engines are crude and inefficient. The last thing we want to do is develop an alternate fuel to perpetuate an outdated technology. The future is electric vehicles, and the sooner people wrap their heads around this, the better.

www.teslamotors.com

The plant they built in MN using tech they devolped in MN at a school uses the waste product form ethanol plants to make biodeisel - seems to be a good thing to put up one with each ethanol plant and produce both ethanol and biodeisel at the same plant and end up with a lot less waste to dispose of.

Joe Sixpack wrote:

<quoted text> The algae solution sounds interesting but how much land will it take?

Not very much, Joe. The National Geographic did a really thorough article on alternative fuel research recently, and algae has seriously great advantages, one of which is that the best place to do it is in the desert, totally non-arable land that would not be used for anything else. Waste water needs only to be brought there once, and it keeps being used over and over as the algae is harvested over and over (growth rates in desert pilot projects are astronomical).