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Bill

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#521
May 20, 2007
 
Debbie- California wrote:
I think that Arnold needs to put money back in our schools and focus on our kids more. Yes global warming may need to be addressed however I think our children are more important!
Climate change is the biggest problem our children are going to face.
Walter_E_Wallis

Hayward, CA

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#522
May 21, 2007
 
If our schools gave an adequate education folks like Nanaimo Bill would not get suckered into scams like global warming.
SAMMY OF TELLER COUNTY

Florissant, CO

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#524
May 25, 2007
 
Bill wrote:
I thought more of him untill this. Alot of you guys don't want to hear this, and i'm probably going to be bured alive by the liberals for this, but the fact is that global warming itn't real. yup i said it, it's fake. Theres proof that it is a bunch of BS
BILL YOU ARE CORRECT...THE EARTH TAKES CARE OF ITSELF..SO SAD THAT PEOPLE BELIEVE SO MUCH OF WHAT THEY HEAR AND DON'T GO INTO DEPTH TO RESEARCH THE "REAL" TRUTH...GLOOM AND DOOM IS WHAT THEY WANT TO BELIEVE...THERE IS NO GLOBAL WARMING! WAKE UP PEOPLE RESEARCH ALL NOT JUST WHAT SOME TELL YOU.

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#525
May 25, 2007
 
SAMMY OF TELLER COUNTY wrote:
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BILL YOU ARE CORRECT...THE EARTH TAKES CARE OF ITSELF..SO SAD THAT PEOPLE BELIEVE SO MUCH OF WHAT THEY HEAR AND DON'T GO INTO DEPTH TO RESEARCH THE "REAL" TRUTH...GLOOM AND DOOM IS WHAT THEY WANT TO BELIEVE...THERE IS NO GLOBAL WARMING! WAKE UP PEOPLE RESEARCH ALL NOT JUST WHAT SOME TELL YOU.
What research, show me a published report or study in a reputable scientific journal that has been peer reviewed that supports your claim and i will show you a thousand that refute it.

My money is on NASA, NOAA, National Geo. Scientific American and the vast majority of scientist world wide that believe global warming is real.

Of course it is your perogative to believe a few Scientists that have been bought by industries that don't want change.

( A quick internet hint, using all capital letters is considered bad form)
Gerry

Forestdale, MA

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#526
May 25, 2007
 
Ridge wrote:
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What research, show me a published report or study in a reputable scientific journal that has been peer reviewed that supports your claim and i will show you a thousand that refute it.
My money is on NASA, NOAA, National Geo. Scientific American and the vast majority of scientist world wide that believe global warming is real.
Of course it is your perogative to believe a few Scientists that have been bought by industries that don't want change.
( A quick internet hint, using all capital letters is considered bad form)
By the CAPS used in the post you're replying to, I'm guessing it's a kid under 10 years old. Go easy, and use simple words.
Moderate

Pleasanton, CA

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May 26, 2007
 
Dare2ChallengeMe wrote:
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Who wants to live forever in this wasteful, selfish, egotistical, plastic..... world?
Incredible the bullshit people
spend their time on. Why don't
we just go on strike against
the car companies and the
filthy rich gas monsters. They
are the ones who are getting
filthy rich off of all of us,
especially those people who
keep on buying huge cars and
driving solo everyday. How
many of you actually use your
big SUV, gas guzzling machine
for what it was designed for?
Sports Utility Vehicles were
made to take the family out to
play. Cross country fun with
the gang and/or family. Take a
look the next time you hit the
road. How many vehicles out
there have passengers? Take a
look at the SUV's. The
majority are solo drivers.
Man has already shown its
capability of returning back in
time to the world each time he
gets in his SUV. Once on the
road the reptilian brian takes
over.
Don't you know we have already
entered into the next predicted
ice age? I gather the end of
mankind is what follows.
Is it that hard to keep use
of energy and the planets
elements to a minimun? Think
about the future of your
family's families the next time
you switch on a light and then
leave the room, before driving
down to the corner store,
before you get on the road home
think about carpooling. Just
think how nice it would be for
your kids children to live to
see their children grow-up. Is
it that hard not to be
wasteful? It doesn't matter if
global warming is BS or real.
Why do you need a reason just
to be considerate and kind to
the earth? She supplies man
with air, food, heat, light,
water, fuel..... Earth has
taken generations of abuse - why
do you need a reason to be
loving to the land you stand
on?
You made some very good points. Thanks for your post.
Walter_E_Wallis

Hayward, CA

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#528
May 26, 2007
 
I am sure Ford will be pleased to know they are filthy rich. If the auto companies had the ability to influenc the market the way some critics suggest, why are there so many flops in the history of cars?
I suppose there are some folk with a stable of cars from which to pick the one most compatible with the day's activities, but most of us need to buy one car to handle all our needs. Most people are also aware of the cost of owning and operating a car. To write contemptuously of car owners as if they are mindless fad followers is arrogant beneath contempt.
Mr Giblets

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#530
May 26, 2007
 
Bill wrote:
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Climate change is the biggest problem our children are going to face.
being taught false theories as facts is another big problem. Indoctrination is wrong
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Since: Mar 07

Nuneaton

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May 26, 2007
 
Mr Giblets wrote:
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being taught false theories as facts is another big problem. Indoctrination is wrong
Too true: sadly there are very few scientists left in employment in the UK able to do anything other than confirm dogma. I am emigrating after being ordered & shut down @ state level. I also refused the orders & as a result vast numbers of illegal immigrants locally are now being roped into the low wage box humping that I rejected.

ps. I feel that the mass import & export of people causes more global warming than the transport of employed to & from adress close to permanent employer would do.

I also do note that this interglacial has its rate of change altered by the heat & also note that previous glacial periods occur when climate mode #4 becomes permanent after loss of the N.Atlantic drift(that's Gulf stream to us). Mode #4 forces a PERMANENT El Nino & all the precipitation preferentially lands on the US. E.coast & Baffin, Rain in S. Snow in N.

Seems like Arnie is a bit upset about living in El Nino conditions.

Have a nice day: Ag

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May 26, 2007
 
Walter_E_Wallis wrote:
I am sure Ford will be pleased to know they are filthy rich. If the auto companies had the ability to influenc the market the way some critics suggest, why are there so many flops in the history of cars?
I suppose there are some folk with a stable of cars from which to pick the one most compatible with the day's activities, but most of us need to buy one car to handle all our needs. Most people are also aware of the cost of owning and operating a car. To write contemptuously of car owners as if they are mindless fad followers is arrogant beneath contempt.
One of many reasons that domestic manufacturers are having so many problems is that instead of spending money on R&D when new smog and Cafe mileage standards come out they spend it on lobbyists and lawyers.

While Detroit wastes its' time Japan and Europe are busy meeting the standards not to mention the fact that they build more reliable vehicles.

Detroit needs to wake up and compete.
Walter_E_Wallis

Hayward, CA

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#534
May 26, 2007
 
Businesses that don't have lawyers and lobbyists suffer - just ask Microsoft. Check on what happened to the Corvair. Then check what happened to the Bug.

“Geologist [I'm Climate Change]”

Since: Mar 07

Nuneaton

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#536
May 29, 2007
 
Lawyers are like accountants: every business should heve either one or a team, but like accountants, they should not dictate managerial policy to the exclusion of company viability.

Remember Henry ford's response to the complaint by the accounts department about their office being too small.

In the case of the lawyers in the USA they have left the country static & smog bound & destroyed the healthy reserves base, & you now wonder why the poor & the health conscious buy eco freindly?
Walter_E_Wallis

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#537
May 29, 2007
 
My first engineering job 50 years ago was measuring and abating air pollution for American Potash and Chemical Company. I am amused by those who believe they are the first virtuous people ever.
I wait with bated breath the recognition that the warmie predictions are as valid as, say the malthusian predictions or the Luddite predictions or the Marxian predictions.

“Geologist [I'm Climate Change]”

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May 29, 2007
 
Walter_E_Wallis wrote:
My first engineering job 50 years ago was measuring and abating air pollution for American Potash and Chemical Company. I am amused by those who believe they are the first virtuous people ever.
I wait with bated breath the recognition that the warmie predictions are as valid as, say the malthusian predictions or the Luddite predictions or the Marxian predictions.
Congratulations:
Anybody in the Uk responding to quality monitoring jobs in the UK after graduation post 1998 found themselves fast tracked into box humping or burger flipping at lower than the USA $ minimum wage with no way out due to collection & capture + enforcement into the sector by the UK welfare state.

This was;
a: devastating for the graduate concerned.
b: devastating for the graduate economy.
b: devastating for the education & skills base of all the companies running under the USA self regulation model introduced by Mr Blair/bush in 1997.

Under those regulations your 1st remotely engineering based job after graduation would be working out how low to put the cook temperatures to save on the gas bill without getting your part time fryer company sued for health & safety breaches and you dumped out on your ass with no further job prospects due to bad references from the company.

Bit of a comedown from an engineering professional post isnt it?

Personally I definitely believe that virtue comes with a policy change to add the guidelines, ie. Arnie is correct in this case & the Bush Cheney & Blair regime dead flat wrong.

Have a nice day: Ag
Walter_E_Wallis

Hayward, CA

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#539
May 29, 2007
 
Let them run their program with a no-change input, then run their same program with their proposed change plugged in and demonstrate the change in outcome. If their program demonstrates a significant improvement to justiofy the costs, then take a shot. As I understand, Most of the proposed changes are cosmetic, with little real change in the end. AS for putdowns, some of my work is with sewer treatment.
Mr Giblets

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#540
May 29, 2007
 
Arnie is the same as Reagan; he only believed things that he saw on the movie screen. Now the Hollywood people have seen Al's movie, they KNOW it is true. And if Di Caprio agrees, it MUST be true. After all, "Titanic" was historically correct, wasn't it?

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