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a Potentially Devastatinga Asteroid Approaching Earth for 2036

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Astronomers differ as to the chances of Asteroid Apophis hitting our planet; a Russian scientist argues that civilization can be confident of survival if it does.

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God, you doomsday theorists are so full of shit.
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Where's Bruce Willis when you need him?
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Oct 29, 2009
 
what particular site of the earth will down the asteroid or what the size of asteroid of that

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It's coming.

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Dammit Jim, we only have 27 years to prepare for impact...

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Oct 31, 2009
 
A strike by Apophis in 2036 is a VERY LOW possibility.

We have it's trajectory nailed to within a very fine degree od accuracy.
It needs to pass within a VERY narrow 'window'(600 metres wide) on it's 2029 pass, to come back and hit us in 2036.

Current estimate is only a 1 in 250,000 chance.
First time I heard of Apophis, the probablity was quoted as 1 in 10,000 - but since then we have honed our understanding of it's orbit - and as time goes by we will hone it even more. The curent 1 in 250,000 chance will almost certainly get more and more unlikely, until we can totally confirm tat it will miss us in 2036.

If it does happen to hit that 600 metre window in 2029, by then we will know for sure, and will be able to intercept it early enough to do something about it - the tiniest nudge during the 2029 fly-by (If we need to do it) would be enough to make it miss by a LONG way, come 2036

Apophis won't strike Earth - we know it's trajectory far too well - and have plenty of time to take action if neccesary.

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Oct 31, 2009
 
Carlos uk wrote:
A strike by Apophis in 2036 is a VERY LOW possibility.
We have it's trajectory nailed to within a very fine degree od accuracy.
It needs to pass within a VERY narrow 'window'(600 metres wide) on it's 2029 pass, to come back and hit us in 2036.
Current estimate is only a 1 in 250,000 chance.
First time I heard of Apophis, the probablity was quoted as 1 in 10,000 - but since then we have honed our understanding of it's orbit - and as time goes by we will hone it even more. The curent 1 in 250,000 chance will almost certainly get more and more unlikely, until we can totally confirm tat it will miss us in 2036.
If it does happen to hit that 600 metre window in 2029, by then we will know for sure, and will be able to intercept it early enough to do something about it - the tiniest nudge during the 2029 fly-by (If we need to do it) would be enough to make it miss by a LONG way, come 2036
Apophis won't strike Earth - we know it's trajectory far too well - and have plenty of time to take action if neccesary.
I have heard that the experts will use the missiles to stir the asteroid away from Earth.
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Oct 31, 2009
 
_Space1 wrote:
You are correct in asserting that meteor/asteroid strikes have occurred on our planet before as current geographical data has proven that particular theory out with the additional support of the Vostok Ice Core samplings providing us with a specific chronological time frame and incident duration, which is why information of this sort is both worth mentioning and taking precautions for.
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I have heard that the experts will use the missiles to stir the asteroid away from Earth.
Concussive force missile impacts are the current strategy for addressing astrological impacts, though it is still a largely unproven theory with numerous unknowable possibilities dependent upon the asteroid/meteor's composition as the intent, as you've mentioned, is to steer them onto another trajectory if the possibility of complete obliteration is unachievable.

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just an allusion wrote:
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You are correct in asserting that meteor/asteroid strikes have occurred on our planet before as current geographical data has proven that particular theory out with the additional support of the Vostok Ice Core samplings providing us with a specific chronological time frame and incident duration, which is why information of this sort is both worth mentioning and taking precautions for.
An asteroid killed the dinosaurs in this planet in the past. Their fossils are the living proofs that it is possible to happen. There were asteroids that hit Jupiter few years ago. I don't see why there are still people who are skeptical on what's coming.

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just an allusion wrote:
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Concussive force missile impacts are the current strategy for addressing astrological impacts, though it is still a largely unproven theory with numerous unknowable possibilities dependent upon the asteroid/meteor's composition as the intent, as you've mentioned, is to steer them onto another trajectory if the possibility of complete obliteration is unachievable.
I am hoping that stirring the asteroid away from Earth will buy us time to survive more years and to maybe completely avoid it for good. The experts said this asteroid is about the size of New York. I wonder how many missiles should we use to push it away from our planet?
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An asteroid killed the dinosaurs in this planet in the past. Their fossils are the living proofs that it is possible to happen. There were asteroids that hit Jupiter few years ago. I don't see why there are still people who are skeptical on what's coming.
Our planet has been struck by more than one asteroid/meteor in it's existence in numerous locals all around the planet, some of which have had cataclysmic repercussions.
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I am hoping that stirring the asteroid away from Earth will buy us time to survive more years and to maybe completely avoid it for good. The experts said this asteroid is about the size of New York. I wonder how many missiles should we use to push it away from our planet?
FWIW, it's stEEring, as in directing a car in one direction or another, "stirring" is what you do to mixed drinks....

The only real way of determining the number of missiles required or the necessary yield of a missile's explosive force is by determining the actual composition of the object that you wish to exert force upon, that is, we need to know if the asteroid is composed of solid rock, ice, metals, minerals, or a combination of all four.

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just an allusion wrote:
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Our planet has been struck by more than one asteroid/meteor in it's existence in numerous locals all around the planet, some of which have had cataclysmic repercussions.
I agree,the eye on Florida's land is one of the proofs.
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I agree,the eye on Florida's land is one of the proofs.
I was unaware of an "eye" meteor strike in Florida...Do you have a link?

Here's a page with a link to a map of all of the asteroids surrounding the Earth, along with a great deal more information on the matter and other links:

http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/iau/lists/InnerPlo...

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just an allusion wrote:
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I was unaware of an "eye" meteor strike in Florida...Do you have a link?
Here's a page with a link to a map of all of the asteroids surrounding the Earth, along with a great deal more information on the matter and other links:
http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/iau/lists/InnerPlo...
There was a link that I saw last year about it but I couldn't find it now. It says that the huge body of water in the center of Florida State is caused by meteor strike long time ago.

Below are the lists of the craters on Earth.

http://geology.com/meteor-impact-craters.shtm...

http://www.touristinformationdirectory.com/cr...
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There was a link that I saw last year about it but I couldn't find it now. It says that the huge body of water in the center of Florida State is caused by meteor strike long time ago.
Below are the lists of the craters on Earth.
http://geology.com/meteor-impact-craters.shtm...
http://www.touristinformationdirectory.com/cr...
If you're referring to Lake Okeechobee, which I think that you are, I'm given to understand that is to have been formed when the ocean receded some 6,000 years ago and is fairly shallow with only a 13 foot depth at it's deepest.

I think that it even has a limestone basin, which would not have been the case if it were indeed caused by an asteroid strike, not to mention that it sits at the nexus of the Floridian swamplands running along "Alligator Alley" that cuts right across Florida from it's Eastern to Western shore...There was this REALLY cute girl named Dee Dee that use to work at a smoothie shop down there who wore a banana costume that you couldn't help but to laugh at...Anyway, I find it interesting that your map doesn't make any mention of the asteroid crater that we have here in Middleton down near Cumberland (they built the town in it actually), but perhaps it wasn't reported as such at the time because we didn't have the technology until recently to determine potential strike points from the surrounding terrain?
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well then the scientists should consider the Mayan Calendar~ AKA Alantis/Ancient Egypt predictions.

Didn't the Mayans learn the formulations from the other civilizations?
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To further elaborate on my earlier comments concerning potential methods of deterring an asteroid strike, in all reality, a "missile strike" is the least likeliest solution as it would only serve to FRAGMENT an incoming asteroid, multiplying the threat to our survivability a hundred fold as we would then be faced with SEVERAL threats of varying sizes instead of just the one.

Now while this would generally tend to lessen the threat by minimizing it, we would then have to deal with MULTIPLE strikes all across MULTIPLE regions of our planet of varying degrees of impact, essentially swapping out a single-shot shotgun for an Uzi.

Which brings me back to my earlier reference to determining the actual composition of a threatening asteroid which, in all honesty, could likely prove to be an insurmountable task given our relatively minimal development of vehicles capable of interstellar travel, not to mention our relatively nonexistent development of the sort of high speed propulsion systems that would be required to both travel to the asteroid and match it's speed in order to examine it.

So, what can we do here, on terra firma, to guard against the possibility of an asteroid strike?

Inasmuch as EVERYTHING in the known Universe is composed of PARTICLES and particles are subject to the effects, and can be acted upon by, magnetic fields, I'd suggest the development of an instrument, a device, a weapon (if you will), capable of producing a high power, directional, magnetic beam with which can be projected into space and used to STEER or even HALT the progress of an oncoming asteroid, securing it into some non-invasive orbit or along some non-impact trajectory, thereby rendering it harmless.

Just a thought....
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An asteroid killed the dinosaurs in this planet in the past. Their fossils are the living proofs that it is possible to happen. There were asteroids that hit Jupiter few years ago. I don't see why there are still people who are skeptical on what's coming.
It did. But that was 64 million years ago - such things does not happen exactly once a day.

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