Teaching Gay History in California

So it should be quite easy for you to provide, as I did, links to peer reviews who find fault with the studies I listed. But all you want to do is provide your personal assessments and,much as you wish it so, your opinion is just that. You aren't qualified to review such studies any more than I.

Prove what you've just written, if you can't it remains just your opinion and that is worthless.

Sorry honey, I'm not playing your silly game.

Jane Dough wrote:

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whats flaws would the different peers find?
oh right the exact same flaws as occurred in your studies.
Did you know that almost all gay supporting studies ignore parents who are not active with the kids?
So in essence they exclude all bad parents at the outset...
they are junk.
I don't think the one I rely on is much better, but I am not the one claiming we should ignore our experience and believe loaded studies.

Jane Dough wrote:

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change the discussion?
I have maintained from the start that the studies you relied on are flawed in the same ways as the one you attack.
Peer review?
1. it was peer reviewed, you don't like who did it...psst...your peer reviews are by biased people as well..
2. What is the controversy peer review did not find?
a poor sampling?
yet you accept hand picked 78 people as gold?
Same as what started this, you ignore the very HUGE flaws in your studies and nit pick this one. you expect us to all ignore the reality we see around us so we can accept a loaded study. not gonna happen.

UNDERSTANDING THAT REGNERUS MADE AN INVALID COMPARISON IS NOT DIFFICULT

The reason Regnerus’s study is scientifically invalid, is that he made no valid sociological comparisons.

Whereas;

1) Regnerus’s heterosexual control group was comprised of the married heterosexual parents of his young adult survey subjects, the;

2) young adults he surveyed who had been raised either by men who have sex with men (MSM), or women who have sex with women (WSW) mainly were;

3) the offspring of failed marriages in which one spouse was heterosexual and the other homosexual.

As Regnerus himself reported in his study, for those of his survey subjects who were raised by MSM or WSW —(whom Regnerus misleadingly labels as “Gay Father” and/or “Lesbian mother”, about which, see more below)—“a failed heterosexual union is clearly the modal method.”

Thus, Regnerus is not even attempting to deny that he did not make a valid comparison.

REGNERUS’S DATA DO NOT SUPPORT HIS CONCLUSIONS

Regnerus compared people raised by stable heterosexual couples, to those raised by unstable mixed-orientation couples, and then declared that “gay” parents have significantly worse child outcomes than do heterosexual parents, though his data does not support that conclusion.

For Regnerus’s comparison even to have begun to be valid, he would either have had to compare 1) stable same-sex-headed households to i) stable heterosexual-headed households, or 2) unstable heterosexual households to ii) unstable mixed-orientation-headed households.

There is no need for any further discussion as to whether Regnerus made a sociologically valid comparison; he did not. This issue alone is the beginning and the end of whether his published study is valid.

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/publicat...

TomInElPaso wrote:

So you can't provide any legitimate peer reviews.

I noticed this too.

TomInElPaso wrote:

Nice attempt to change the discussion, unfortunately you don't get to change the rules once the game Is underway, honey.

And this as well.

I wonder which recognized hate group is busy doing the (completely unbiased) "study" to debunk this study? I look forward to there "eye opening" results.

Jane Dough wrote:

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I believe in objective evidence and random samples and evidently, you don't.
78 hand picked, self reporting, subjects?
come one dude.

How does one obtain a "random sample" of gay parents if they don't self report?

How does one define "gay parents?" Were they a couple BEFORE the children came along? How long did they co-habitate? You do realise that divorce has an impact on children, whether their parents are same-sex or opposite sex, don't you? How does one test to see if the differences in the outcome of children was caused by divorce or same sex parenting? Here's an example:

Let's say I hit my thumb with a hammer and split it open. I go to the doctor for stitches. They take a blood test and discover I have diabetes. That DOES NOT MEAN hitting my thumb with a hammer caused the diabetes.

If one wishes to make a VALID comparison ( http://www.soc.iastate.edu/sapp/soc302relval.... )
one must compare things that are basically equal, EXCEPT FOR what one is trying to pinpoint.

Straight couples (never divorced) vs. gay couples (never divorced) THEN and ONLY THEN can one make a valid comparison. Regnarus DID NOT DO THAT. His conclusions are INVALID.

Recommended New York sex ed site offers middleschoolers tips on eating feces,
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WARNING: very explicit content.

NEW YORK - The recommended curriculum for a mandatory sex education course to be implemented in New York middle and high schools next year directs students to a website that details “safe sex” practices regarding bestiality, coprophagia, and other extreme sexual fetishes.

The New York Post reported on Saturday that assignments in a workbook recommended by city education officials included giving middle schoolers “risk cards” to rate the safety of such activities as anal sex, oral sex, and “intercourse using a condom and an oil-based lubricant.”

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg defended the sex curriculum as necessary to combat the city's STD infections and out-of-wedlock births.

Teens are also told to learn the route from school to the nearest family planning clinic and research its confidentiality policy, or to report on condom brands and features such as lubrication.

But one of the most extreme aspects of the curriculum is its referral to “Go Ask Alice,” a website run by Columbia University that offers comprehensive analysis of sex fetishes and their hygienic pitfalls.

“The idea of experimenting with scat play might heat things up in the bedroom (or bathroom, or anywhere else you choose), but it’s always a good idea to consider the risks of a behavior before acting upon (or getting action from) it,” states the website in one page entitled “‘Scat’ play — is eating feces safe?” Other areas discuss pornography, drinking urine, and “favorite sexual positions.” One page proposes to overcome lack of information on the bestiality due to “stigmatization” of the practice.

The NYC Parents’ Choice Coalition has launched a campaign against the new curriculum, urging parents to opt their kids out of the program. However, the city’s Department of Education defended the information as more in-depth instruction on safe-sex practices, and noted that abstinence would also be taught.

Mayor Bloomberg defended the sex curriculum as necessary to combat the city’s STD infections and out-of-wedlock births.“We have a responsibility, when you have an out of wedlock birthrate and a sexually transmitted disease rate that we have in this city, to try to do something about it,” said the mayor on Monday.“Shame on us if we don’t.”

CNN reports that the NYC Department of Education will mandate that all schools have a sexual education curriculum by next spring.

Click here for NYC Parents’ Choice Coalition’s contact page for Mayor Bloomgberg and the NYC Department of Education.

Samatha wrote:

Recommended New York sex ed site offers middleschoolers tips on eating feces,
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WARNING: very explicit content.
NEW YORK - The recommended curriculum for a mandatory sex education course to be implemented in New York middle and high schools next year directs students to a website that details “safe sex” practices regarding bestiality, coprophagia, and other extreme sexual fetishes.
The New York Post reported on Saturday that assignments in a workbook recommended by city education officials included giving middle schoolers “risk cards” to rate the safety of such activities as anal sex, oral sex, and “intercourse using a condom and an oil-based lubricant.”
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg defended the sex curriculum as necessary to combat the city's STD infections and out-of-wedlock births.
Teens are also told to learn the route from school to the nearest family planning clinic and research its confidentiality policy, or to report on condom brands and features such as lubrication.
But one of the most extreme aspects of the curriculum is its referral to “Go Ask Alice,” a website run by Columbia University that offers comprehensive analysis of sex fetishes and their hygienic pitfalls.
“The idea of experimenting with scat play might heat things up in the bedroom (or bathroom, or anywhere else you choose), but it’s always a good idea to consider the risks of a behavior before acting upon (or getting action from) it,” states the website in one page entitled “‘Scat’ play — is eating feces safe?” Other areas discuss pornography, drinking urine, and “favorite sexual positions.” One page proposes to overcome lack of information on the bestiality due to “stigmatization” of the practice.
The NYC Parents’ Choice Coalition has launched a campaign against the new curriculum, urging parents to opt their kids out of the program. However, the city’s Department of Education defended the information as more in-depth instruction on safe-sex practices, and noted that abstinence would also be taught.
Mayor Bloomberg defended the sex curriculum as necessary to combat the city’s STD infections and out-of-wedlock births.“We have a responsibility, when you have an out of wedlock birthrate and a sexually transmitted disease rate that we have in this city, to try to do something about it,” said the mayor on Monday.“Shame on us if we don’t.”
CNN reports that the NYC Department of Education will mandate that all schools have a sexual education curriculum by next spring.
Click here for NYC Parents’ Choice Coalition’s contact page for Mayor Bloomgberg and the NYC Department of Education.

Since you are SO worried, then simply STOP eating feces or drinking urine and you will be just FINE. My my, you are out of control aren't you?

Samatha wrote:

Recommended New York sex ed site offers middleschoolers tips on eating feces...

Wow, Interesting (and sort of creepy) how you honed right in on THAT!

BTW why didn't you provide a LINK so that we would all know where YOU got this (fascinating) bit of 'information' from?

Was it from the "NYC Parents’ Choice Coalition"? http://nycparentschoice.org/

Aside fro the bullshit you posted being over TWO YEARS OLD, a bunch of religious nut jobs who are too lazy to home school but want to dictate what their kids learn in school, is NOT a credible source of RELIABLE information.

So much for your day late dollar short DIS information

BTW "Samantha", Since initiating their comprehensive sex education program kids enrolled in New York public schools have one of the LOWEST pregnancy rates in the nation.

The 16 states with "abstinence only" sex ed programs consistently have the sixteen HIGHEST teen pregnancy rates in the nation.

How many links do you want? 50, 150 health departments?

Samatha Posted:

Gay Sexual Practices Lead to Uptick in Disease

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FECAL SEX About 80% of gays admit to licking and/or inserting their tongues into the anus of partners and thus ingesting medically significant amounts of feces. Those who eat or wallow in it are probably at even greater risk. In the diary study,5 70% of the gays had engaged in this activity--half regularly over 6 months. Result?--the "annual incidence of hepatitis A in...homosexual men was 22 percent, whereas no heterosexual men acquired hepatitis A." In 1992,26 it was noted that the proportion of gays engaging in oral/anal sex had not declined.

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Gay Men and Shigellosis
What is Shigellosis?
Shigellosis is a disease that causes stomach cramps, fever, diarrhea and sometimes bloody diarrhea.
What causes Shigellosis?
Shigellosis is caused by the Shigella bacterium. Shigella is found in feces (shit).
Who gets it?
Anyone can get Shigellosis. Gay men get Shigellosis at higher rates than others. People with a weakened immune
system get more sick than others.
How do you get it?
You can get Shigellosis when feces comes in contact with your mouth. This can happen with oral/anal sex play. This
can happen when you use your fingers or hand for anal sex play and then touch your mouth. Even microscopic
amounts of feces that get into your mouth can cause Shigellosis.
How can I avoid Shigella?
Play safely. In addition to safe sex guidelines to prevent HIV, maintain good hygiene. Wash every
part of your body that is sexual with soap and water before, after and between sex play. Use condoms
or other kinds of barriers like dental dams, latex gloves or plastic wrap and be aware of
what body parts may have come into contact with feces during sex play. Wash them with soap
and water. Use condoms with sex toys, and discard the condoms after use.
What do I do if I think I have Shigellosis?
• If you think you have Shigellosis, see your doctor.
• Inform your partners.
• Wash your hands a lot.
• Don’t have sex until 7 days after symptoms end.
• Talk with a medical provider about what you can do to reduce your risk.
publichealth.lacounty.gov/acd/docs/Shigellosi...

ELH wrote:

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Wow, Interesting (and sort of creepy) how you honed right in on THAT!
BTW why didn't you provide a LINK so that we would all know where YOU got this (fascinating) bit of 'information' from?
Was it from the "NYC Parents’ Choice Coalition"? http://nycparentschoice.org/
Aside fro the bullshit you posted being over TWO YEARS OLD, a bunch of religious nut jobs who are too lazy to home school but want to dictate what their kids learn in school, is NOT a credible source of RELIABLE information.
So much for your day late dollar short DIS information

Do you have a link for that?

ELH wrote:

BTW "Samantha", Since initiating their comprehensive sex education program kids enrolled in New York public schools have one of the LOWEST pregnancy rates in the nation.
The 16 states with "abstinence only" sex ed programs consistently have the sixteen HIGHEST teen pregnancy rates in the nation.

Blair wrote:

How many links do you want? 50, 150 health departments?
Samatha Posted:
Gay Sexual Practices Lead to Uptick in Disease
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FECAL SEX About 80% of gays admit to licking and/or inserting their tongues into the anus of partners and thus ingesting medically significant amounts of feces. Those who eat or wallow in it are probably at even greater risk. In the diary study,5 70% of the gays had engaged in this activity--half regularly over 6 months. Result?--the "annual incidence of hepatitis A in...homosexual men was 22 percent, whereas no heterosexual men acquired hepatitis A." In 1992,26 it was noted that the proportion of gays engaging in oral/anal sex had not declined.
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Gay Men and Shigellosis
What is Shigellosis?
Shigellosis is a disease that causes stomach cramps, fever, diarrhea and sometimes bloody diarrhea.
What causes Shigellosis?
Shigellosis is caused by the Shigella bacterium. Shigella is found in feces (shit).
Who gets it?
Anyone can get Shigellosis. Gay men get Shigellosis at higher rates than others. People with a weakened immune
system get more sick than others.
How do you get it?
You can get Shigellosis when feces comes in contact with your mouth. This can happen with oral/anal sex play. This
can happen when you use your fingers or hand for anal sex play and then touch your mouth. Even microscopic
amounts of feces that get into your mouth can cause Shigellosis.
How can I avoid Shigella?
Play safely. In addition to safe sex guidelines to prevent HIV, maintain good hygiene. Wash every
part of your body that is sexual with soap and water before, after and between sex play. Use condoms
or other kinds of barriers like dental dams, latex gloves or plastic wrap and be aware of
what body parts may have come into contact with feces during sex play. Wash them with soap
and water. Use condoms with sex toys, and discard the condoms after use.
What do I do if I think I have Shigellosis?
• If you think you have Shigellosis, see your doctor.
• Inform your partners.
• Wash your hands a lot.
• Don’t have sex until 7 days after symptoms end.
• Talk with a medical provider about what you can do to reduce your risk.
publichealth.lacounty.gov/acd/docs/Shigellosi...
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Then STOP eating feces, what is so tough about that? I never saw anyone so scared in my life as you, or whatever name you are using today. Why are you so scared unless you are doing the above.

I don't eat feces, the data clearly says Gays do eat feces!
Since some of these people work in the food industry that's a problem. Though I would like to point out that it was Gays attacks on the Christians that lead to the information being uncovered and publicized.

Gay Ole' Hollywood has been pushing an image of class,style and elitism for years, that's over! The public knows the truth about how nasty Gays are!

With that being said any group that is banned from donating blood should not be allowed to work in the food industry, a small cut could lead to and probably has led to outbreaks of disease.

Curteese wrote:

<quoted text>Then STOP eating feces, what is so tough about that? I never saw anyone so scared in my life as you, or whatever name you are using today. Why are you so scared unless you are doing the above.

The best defense against a lawsuit is the truth! Is this some more of that homosexual bullying we all know so well?

First in the case you sited the allegations were presumed to be false by both a criminal jury and a civil jury.

So lets start there: The information about homosexual diseases comes from the CDC, FDA, Multiple health departments and hundreds of medical universities across the world!

So your going to sue because someone is telling the truth about you? Along side all my other comments add STUPID!

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Data also supports the claim that homosexuals have an atrocious record of molesting children.

Bill O'Reilly confronted a spokesman for The Southern Poverty Law Center last week on air and told him exactly that! The data supports the fact homosexuals have a higher frequency of child molestation.

I would have a better chance of a successful lawsuit against film makers and networks like ABC for putting the public at risk by promoting homosexuality as safe.
You have really gave me a good idea, they should be sued!

Mona Lott wrote:

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http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/04/24/39096...
scurrilous comments referring to the Leshers and their businesses were appearing on Topix, an online community bulletin board.
jury awarded the couple $13.78 million in a libel judgment. The ruling sends the message that people have the freedom to write what they please online, but they can be held accountable.

Blair wrote:

I don't eat feces, the data clearly says Gays do eat feces!
Since some of these people work in the food industry that's a problem. Though I would like to point out that it was Gays attacks on the Christians that lead to the information being uncovered and publicized.
Gay Ole' Hollywood has been pushing an image of class,style and elitism for years, that's over! The public knows the truth about how nasty Gays are!
With that being said any group that is banned from donating blood should not be allowed to work in the food industry, a small cut could lead to and probably has led to outbreaks of disease.
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Oh, come. I don't know any gay man or woman who eat feces, once again, you are painting an entire demographic with one brush. I assume NO heteros EVER do anything risky or fetish style, since they are heteros,according to you, they are PERFECT.

I oppose gerrymandering the populace on the basis of sexual predilection.

I thought your thing was little kids, now your picking on lesbians?

TomInElPaso wrote:

Women who had one female to female affair considered as being a lesbian mother, really?
Where's your legit peer reviews honey? You've already seen mine.
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As you can see from the information she posted it is a common practice among Gays, thus the reason for the diseases.

Curteese wrote:

<quoted text>Oh, come. I don't know any gay man or woman who eat feces, once again, you are painting an entire demographic with one brush. I assume NO heteros EVER do anything risky or fetish style, since they are heteros,according to you, they are PERFECT.

Cool Hand Luke wrote:

I thought your thing was little kids, now your picking on lesbians?
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"Now YOU'RE picking," not "YOUR picking".

Sigh, here we go again.

YOU+ARE=YOU'RE
YOU-POSSESSIVE=YOUR

I will keep this up till I teach all you haters this simple rule of grammar and spelling.

Why are you pretty ones always so DUMB?

Kirby wrote:

As you can see from the information she posted it is a common practice among Gays, thus the reason for the diseases.
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Specious and inaccurate. You're blaming the actions of few on all. Highly off base.

You're problem is that you don't think.

Cool Hand Luke wrote:

I thought your thing was little kids, now your picking on lesbians?
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