Atom-Smasher Gears Up to Find 'God Particle'

Hey man, they might find magnetic monopoles. Hopefully it doesn't start a whole new big bang. In any case I hope whatever they find with this expensive machine is of some use in a practical way.

yuri strahand wrote:

some men live there entire life floating on there false concept that they one of gods / pure bull---- god is not and always is like a great universe and world that few fool you to forget that you exist in and munipulate daily reality to the tune of paying homage to mortal humans because of money and material assets the earth is perfect distance from sun the air is perfect combination of suvivable gases the occuring vegitation is optimum for nutrition health and physical and mental curitivaty of listable ailments creating is being sacrificed for glorifiaction of a handfull of earthes inhabitants who wishe to be seen as god to everyone else

Just another fill in the gaps with god declaration meant to be the logic behind your humanness . It's the easy way out of searching for the rationally reasonable explanations . They are atheists and they are guilty as hell and by majik they shall be struck down by the ghost .

humans in any particular societys outgrow the elements of traditional ways of the society place in by previous generations, look in history of any society what men est. generations before becomes innefficient and cummbersome on the populace because that what is traditionaly excepted without question is suseptable to corruption

Dave wrote:

... but also work would be under way to make nuclear fusion a reality. Can you say inexhaustible, non-polluting (no radioactive waste, no by products, etc.) source of energy?

I can say it and it is called the Sun and look at all the radiation that it produces. Why do you think a terrestrial nuclear fusion reactor would not produce the same sort of harmful radiation?

Rob wrote:

Our evolutionary and collective understanding of The Big Bang will lead up to the point were we create one. Then it becomes a do-over. The last being to generate a big bang becomes god.

For the sake of argument I'll just agree... but you've got to walk on water, turn water into wine, heal the sick, etc. all of the world you supposedly will have created. Oh, and the best part is you get to rise again from the dead... of course, after you've been crucified. Until you've done that... get a "real" brain and understand that the "God particle" even science yearns for is WITHIN ALL OF US (should we ask Him for His forgiveness and move forward in our lives forever changed by His mercy and grace). All searches for a "God particle" other than that are totally in vain!

Illuminated Man wrote:

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I can say it and it is called the Sun and look at all the radiation that it produces. Why do you think a terrestrial nuclear fusion reactor would not produce the same sort of harmful radiation?

I hate to agree with you, but I can't logically disagree with you. Er go, I must agree (until I can find a way to logically do otherwise). I suppose we all pine for some silver bullet to the whole energy thing. At the same time, I don't wish for such a silver bullet due to supposed Al Gore-made "Global Warming." I do so because I'd want my own source of power... never to have to pay a light bill again!(...or gas bill, etc.)

someday we'll look back and think how stupid were we to build such a gigantic machine for something so small

you know who - me wrote:

someday we'll look back and think how stupid were we to build such a gigantic machine for something so small

We won't look back and say how stupid we were. No one looks at the Wright brother's first plane and says "Jeez, is that a stupid machine... it looks nothing like the planes we build today." At most, we'll think of the earliest examples of a new technological innovation as "quaint".

When any new technology emerges, it is often bulky, ungainly and ugly by the aesthetic standards of future generations. Consider the first electronic computers - behemoths that filled large rooms and had less computing power than my cell phone. Consider the first VCRs. I had one of the first - it weighed almost 60 pounds! Consider the earliest of the aforementioned cell phone. Definitely not something you could slip into your shirt pocket.

Technology always comes first. Then, as time goes by, we package it better.

Tons of work, money, time and brilliant scientists have devoted a good portion of they're careers to follow through with this amazing project. I myself am an engineer and I am stoked to see what happens. This machine has been in the process of development for a very long time and each of the two main sensors are operated by two separate firms. I believe whatever happens will be very interesting.

If you love science and I do, this particle accellerator will be a new and important tool for a long time to come. Deep down inside I do not believe in the higgs boson particle, but the machine is bound to find some answers for other questions. I have an open mind and I am excited to see what transpires, good, bad, or nothing.

What is this God analogy that is being blogged about? They're trying to create an elusive sub-atomic particle from a giant collider. Hah, sub-atomic shrapnel, if you ask me!I'd be more entertained if they could create dark matter, and explain it or find a way to utilize a self sustaining cold fusion reaction in a positive manner.

"The Big Bang". I had one of those when I was 16. BFDeal. Those smartasses better figure out how to keep this planet spinning in a cloud of Co2. All the "God particles" in the world ain't going to save us from ourselves.

The shut down of the Texas super collider by the democrats after the magnets were designed, built, and installed and peoples land had been taken should suggest a basic streak of insanity in the federal government. The project would have been completed if it had been built around Berkeley!
Nevertheless who knows what may be spawned in collision fragments near the speed of light. Maybe the Devil Particle? Or the mother of all black holes..Gaia baby.......Ya Ha!!!!!!

Hmmm, Devil particle -- may be that's why God wouldn't let that thing be built so near Crawford, Texas -- like forces repel: two devil particles in Texas might cause a tectonic plate fracture and all the underground trolls and devils would come marching out with the Ring of the Niebelungs

Waxahatchie TX is still in place. However, large parcels of land were acquired for the accelerator site. I have wondered what happened to those purchases as I drove across this town towards Forth Worth, TX.

Nice stories, but I pay little attention to modern mythology.

Disgusted wrote:

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For the sake of argument I'll just agree... but you've got to walk on water, turn water into wine, heal the sick, etc. all of the world you supposedly will have created. Oh, and the best part is you get to rise again from the dead... of course, after you've been crucified. Until you've done that... get a "real" brain and understand that the "God particle" even science yearns for is WITHIN ALL OF US (should we ask Him for His forgiveness and move forward in our lives forever changed by His mercy and grace). All searches for a "God particle" other than that are totally in vain!

Rob wrote:

Nice stories, but I pay little attention to modern mythology.
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Besides, in the tenets of theology, if accepted as true, God is omnipresent in all particles, therefore there would be no particle not godly; this gets a little dicey when one starts to contemplate the presence of God in the mind particles of Satan and who's in charge -- then we have to get over to the Evolution/Devolution string

adrian wrote:

When we figure out how to make matter out of nothing, not just banging it after it is already in existence, which is what the big bang is,(matter had to already be there for it to bang itself), then we can start to disprove God.

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't there, but the big bang is a term to help you visualize the beginning of everything, including matter. Matter and time did not exist before the big bang, at least not in this universe. The big bang is when energy began converting into matter (and anti-matter, according to the equations).

Well, it looks as though we will never know what discovery outcome from the SSC would have been. At this point anyway. I also don't know off hand what the expected energy increase was for the SSC over the LHC . It will be interesting to see how well and how long it will take to get the detector up to speed...

yuri strahand wrote:

some men live there entire life floating on there false concept that they one of gods / pure bull---- god is not and always is like a great universe and world that few fool you to forget that you exist in and munipulate daily reality to the tune of paying homage to mortal humans because of money and material assets the earth is perfect distance from sun the air is perfect combination of suvivable gases the occuring vegitation is optimum for nutrition health and physical and mental curitivaty of listable ailments creating is being sacrificed for glorifiaction of a handfull of earthes inhabitants who wishe to be seen as god to everyone else

Smoke, smoke, toke, toke, whoopdee doo! Don't dat cumpouter huv somkina speel check??? Whooppdee doo who cares? Don't make no sense anywhoo! Puff, puff. Way out there!

Armyofonetimesonesquared wrote:

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Don't get me wrong, I wasn't there, but the big bang is a term to help you visualize the beginning of everything, including matter. Matter and time did not exist before the big bang, at least not in this universe. The big bang is when energy began converting into matter (and anti-matter, according to the equations).

The farther into the atom these scientists involved with particle accelerators look, the more space they find. A proton and neutron divide into sub particles within and so on and so on... So much more space exists than matter that a pinhead of true solid matter exists within a million mile diameter of empty space! A primary study is what is holding all this together...orbits and gravity?....there is a force that is beyond our scope at present. But once realized, the 'art/science' of teleportation will be possible. Much too deep for a politician who is only interested in his 'benefactors' receiving their piece of the action of funding.