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lovelife
Morgan Hill, CA
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bob wrote: <quoted text>I looked it up. You're paying almost twice as much. I guess it comes out to be about $6.78 a pound for me. Of healthy fresh, no hormone, no corn fed, no antibiotocs, and a big plus for me? Animals are treated well.I drive around these beautiful ranches and the animals are clean (as much as you expect) and are free in clean air- yes they do have "Happy Cows" in California - who would have known. BTW I do originally come from another country where the meat quality is best and health restriction are VERY tight. It is a mediterranean place where once again- we eat beef/pork maybe once or twice a week at most, chicken and fish are popular and dairy products are the staple of protein in our diet + tons of olive oil. about dairy-starnge because no one I know had dairy allergies there-it's been done for thousands of years. Yes the meat does taste better when it's better taken care of- I am sure any rancher would know that. For me the money is worth it- I feel better inside physically, my meals are wayyy better (and ppl always ask what I do different) and emotionally I feel good when I eat. You know some people pay $1.25-1.75or for 1 coca cola=sugar water-or $3.50 for 1 cup of cafe/latte. Yet they freak out if their meat/ milk/eggs are a dollar fifty or two more expensive? go figure
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bob
Wiggins, CO
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my folks are from the Azores, we go back every summer and visit, I personally don't care for the taste or texture of their grass fed beef. The burgers, pork, chicken, lamb, goat, rabbit, fish, octopus and lippets are delicious. I remember my grandparents and uncles always fed grain to the beef that they would use for their steaks. The grass fed was usually only used for soups, stews and alcatra(roasts) it was just too tough. Your choosing to do your thing, i'm choosing to do mine. this country is all about our freedoms and not allowing others to take those freedoms away from us. Trust me, i know about consumers getting mad about having to pay $4 for a whole gallon of milk, $7 for organic but of course they'll pay $5 for a little cup of coffee or $7 for a beer. In 2008 when world demand way high for U.S. dairy. the price shot up, the chains had to cut imput costs because there would be consumer push-back so they pulled out 30% of the cheese. When prices cheapened they boasted that they were adding 40% more cheese.
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bob
Wiggins, CO
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Grilling wrote: Nothing like grilled free range grass fed lamb, or beef for that matter. Course a nice cut of grilled venison is also hard to beat. We include plenty of veggies too - from our garden - don't care for the "factory farm" grown vegetables picked by the illegals who "evacuate" in the fields instead of in the porta-john. That's great for you cause that's your personal choice. when Peta's done with the masses they'll come after u next. Divide and conquer.
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bob
Wiggins, CO
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Grilling wrote: Nothing like grilled free range grass fed lamb, or beef for that matter. Course a nice cut of grilled venison is also hard to beat. We include plenty of veggies too - from our garden - don't care for the "factory farm" grown vegetables picked by the illegals who "evacuate" in the fields instead of in the porta-john. I personally don't feel your way is better, just think it's different. In peta's mind it's all the same.
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madcoman
Columbus, OH
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Anti JW wrote: <quoted text> Your the one that is stupid. Won't go look it up and admit when your wrong. Has nothing to do with big ag. So go get a hint. Again, please learn how to read, or go back to kindergarten if you need to. This is the last time I'll respond to your posts since I don't waste my time debating morons like you.
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madcoman
Columbus, OH
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bob wrote: <quoted text>That's great for you cause that's your personal choice. when Peta's done with the masses they'll come after u next. Divide and conquer. That's just something the factory farms say to scare us into supporting them. Here in Ohio they pushed through this sham "livestock care standards board" to avoid a compromise banning battery cages for chickens, veal crates, or gestation crates for sows. None of these I'd ever consider using anyway. However this board of political cronies now has the power to regulate small farmers out of business.
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bob
Wiggins, CO
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madcoman wrote: <quoted text> That's just something the factory farms say to scare us into supporting them. Here in Ohio they pushed through this sham "livestock care standards board" to avoid a compromise banning battery cages for chickens, veal crates, or gestation crates for sows. None of these I'd ever consider using anyway. However this board of political cronies now has the power to regulate small farmers out of business. Ingrid Newkirk and peta want to abolish ALL animal slavery. "First They Came..." They just as well shave their heads. You do your thing i'll do mine, you raise your kids i'll raise mine. You'll never take my freedoms
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Since: Jan 09
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bob wrote: <quoted text>Ingrid Newkirk and peta want to abolish ALL animal slavery. "First They Came..." They just as well shave their heads. You do your thing i'll do mine, you raise your kids i'll raise mine. You'll never take my freedoms "One rung at a time."
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bob
Wiggins, CO
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madcoman wrote: <quoted text> That's just something the factory farms say to scare us into supporting them. Here in Ohio they pushed through this sham "livestock care standards board" to avoid a compromise banning battery cages for chickens, veal crates, or gestation crates for sows. None of these I'd ever consider using anyway. However this board of political cronies now has the power to regulate small farmers out of business. if you don't want to be a large farmer, don't be a large farmer. If you don't like my lifestyle don't live it. But please send plumpynut to Africa
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Hey Bob
Columbus, OH
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The sky is fallinnnnnnnnnnngggggg!
Peta makes the sky fall, too! LOL!
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CareLes
Buffalo, MN
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Factory farmers wrote: <quoted text> About 20 percent of the world's population, or 1.4 billion people, could be fed with the grain and soybeans fed to U.S. cattle alone. They could be, but they wouldn't. What makes you think that if you freed up this grain it would have any better chance of making it to the hungry around the world than the millions of tons of surplus grain that is sitting around with no apparent use today? Les
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Just a thought
Columbus, OH
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lovelife wrote: <quoted text> I guess it comes out to be about $6.78 a pound for me. Of healthy fresh, no hormone, no corn fed, no antibiotocs, and a big plus for me? Animals are treated well.I drive around these beautiful ranches and the animals are clean (as much as you expect) and are free in clean air- yes they do have "Happy Cows" in California - who would have known. BTW I do originally come from another country where the meat quality is best and health restriction are VERY tight. It is a mediterranean place where once again- we eat beef/pork maybe once or twice a week at most, chicken and fish are popular and dairy products are the staple of protein in our diet + tons of olive oil. about dairy-starnge because no one I know had dairy allergies there-it's been done for thousands of years. Yes the meat does taste better when it's better taken care of- I am sure any rancher would know that. For me the money is worth it- I feel better inside physically, my meals are wayyy better (and ppl always ask what I do different) and emotionally I feel good when I eat. You know some people pay $1.25-1.75or for 1 coca cola=sugar water-or $3.50 for 1 cup of cafe/latte. Yet they freak out if their meat/ milk/eggs are a dollar fifty or two more expensive? go figure Just because they're not in constant agony (like factory farmed cows) does not mean they're 'happy!'. I really don't think any species of mammal would be 'happy' being REPEATEDLY sexually violated (RAPED), and REPEATEDLY forced into pregnancy and birth, only to have their babies REPEATEDLY ripped from them. You might like to feel good about (and attempt to justify) man's theft of their babies' milk; however, it's an outright falsehood to refer to them as 'happy'. Less tortured, yes, but happy, no.
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bob
Wiggins, CO
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Christmas Hunter wrote: <quoted text>"One rung at a time." "You do your thing i'll do mine, you raise your kids i'll raise mine but you'll never take my freedoms one rung at a time" i like it!
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bob
Wiggins, CO
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Just a thought wrote: <quoted text> Just because they're not in constant agony (like factory farmed cows) does not mean they're 'happy!'. I really don't think any species of mammal would be 'happy' being REPEATEDLY sexually violated (RAPED), and REPEATEDLY forced into pregnancy and birth, only to have their babies REPEATEDLY ripped from them. You might like to feel good about (and attempt to justify) man's theft of their babies' milk; however, it's an outright falsehood to refer to them as 'happy'. Less tortured, yes, but happy, no. Told u so.
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bob
Wiggins, CO
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CareLes wrote: <quoted text> They could be, but they wouldn't. What makes you think that if you freed up this grain it would have any better chance of making it to the hungry around the world than the millions of tons of surplus grain that is sitting around with no apparent use today? Les send Plumpynut to Africa!!!!!!!!!! we just sent 300 mil to Haiti send some to Africa.
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bob
Wiggins, CO
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Hey Bob wrote: The sky is fallinnnnnnnnnnngggggg! Peta makes the sky fall, too! LOL! read Just a Thoughts post!
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bob
Wiggins, CO
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Just a thought wrote: <quoted text> Just because they're not in constant agony (like factory farmed cows) does not mean they're 'happy!'. I really don't think any species of mammal would be 'happy' being REPEATEDLY sexually violated (RAPED), and REPEATEDLY forced into pregnancy and birth, only to have their babies REPEATEDLY ripped from them. You might like to feel good about (and attempt to justify) man's theft of their babies' milk; however, it's an outright falsehood to refer to them as 'happy'. Less tortured, yes, but happy, no. so don't eat it.
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bob
Wiggins, CO
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Good times, Good times, see ya'll. gotta go feed my cows.
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madcoman
Columbus, OH
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bob wrote: <quoted text>Ingrid Newkirk and peta want to abolish ALL animal slavery. "First They Came..." They just as well shave their heads. You do your thing i'll do mine, you raise your kids i'll raise mine. You'll never take my freedoms Everybody knows PETA is an extreme group, so people like you keep repeating it hoping to scare people into believing what you say about extreme confinement in factory farms being unavoidable. It's not. The problem with agriculture remains Overproduction, so nobody is going to starve anytime soon. Do you really think PETA could get anything passed in any state banning meat?
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bob
Wiggins, CO
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madcoman wrote: <quoted text> Everybody knows PETA is an extreme group, so people like you keep repeating it hoping to scare people into believing what you say about extreme confinement in factory farms being unavoidable. It's not. The problem with agriculture remains Overproduction, so nobody is going to starve anytime soon. Do you really think PETA could get anything passed in any state banning meat? of course , they're spending millions on propaganda and advertising. Their using their members $'s and influence through regulation. It would be one thing if the consumer was compensating the industry to tailor their products to their desire and we weren't doing it. They are are not compensating us for it. they are just demanding. Peta is waging an emotional war against animal slavery! You don't like Penn and Teller, that's cool, but did u not believe ANYTHING from their YOUTUBE PENN AND TELLER PETA program? While you're at it watch their take on mad cow(not u, but the condition.lol) Let me know what u think about the content rather than the source. Plumpynut for Africa!!!!!!!!!!
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