Lockport Mulls Crude Oil Depot at Texaco Site

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Viva La Kelly wrote:

Is there a fiddle around or some kleenex please! This is hogwash and drama. It is all wrong. A lot of business will come with business minded people as the leaders of this town. It has before but not now! You are a disgruntled person and you should wake up. Once a loser is a loser, they are a loser forever! They may have won in the polls, but people find them out. You need to get a life! You started this post and you have a big old fashion grudge. This town will rise again out of the ashes that are presently there due to people like you. You have NO business sense and your opinion stinks! Have a great day and don't let the door hit you on your way out of it. The town is going to prosper whether you like it or not--again! It has been in a standstill with people like you and your fear tactics. This town will upswing with the right people, and we do not have the right people on the city right now. The majority is a jamjoke. Do you like that word? I think so. Bye! Go have coffee with Sandy!

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Lago Vista wrote:

I'm a Lockport resident believes that the rail line and storage tanks would be a huge benefit to the town. I believe it's a stretch of a very vivid imagination that the downtown area won't be developed because of the rail line. Stench? I don't think so. I've walked along the bike trail many times past the Shell tanks and have never come across an alleged oil stench.
Rail cars loaded with oil already pass through this area. Heck, rail cars with extremely hazardess chemicals routinely pass through town on both rails. I have never experienced any stench from any of these rail cars.
I'm quite sure I could go to the chamber of commerce this afternoon and ask your question. I'm also quite sure that there hasn't been any potential downtown developer that has said, "you know, I'm going to spend a half million to renovate a building downtown but the deal is off if you can't guarantee that the old Texaco site will never have any oil related businesses in the next 20 years".
Chevron owns the property. Chevron has every right to develop that property as long as that development meets the zoning requirements.
I've read the CARE propaganda. Their concerns make as much sense as worrying about Klingons attacking Earth next month.
I'd like to see the first shovel of dirt moved for the project next week.

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Lago Vista wrote:

The area in question has been remediated. Therefore, there isn't anything left in the ground all the way to the bedrock.
Did you even pay attention to Cogent or are your ears closed?
The tanks will be surrounded by a berm. That berm will be able to contain 2 1/2 times the volume of the tank it surrounds. I can guarantee you that the entire area that surrounds the tank will have some type of rubberized or flexible plastic container.
Any potential floodwater will not be able to go over the top of the berm. However, if in the unlikely event that it did, the water will be contained within the entire structure.
If flood water ever does get high enough to get into the area of the tanks the people of the Westside will be under 10-12 feet of water.
Any drop of oil on the ground caused by any leaks anywhere on the property will be a moot point because the entire West side will have floated down to Joliet. You will also have to worry about the barges coming down the Sanitary Ship Canal floating around in what was once your back yard.

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Chumbalone wrote:

<quoted text> Anyone reading this "VIVA" persons post will truly understand what a truly disgruntled person is ! Please read every word and sentence carefully after which you will know what "disgruntled" truly means. Sounds as though "VIVA" has a grudge against Sandy ! Don't like my opinions...that's fine with me. If "VIVA" feels this town is on the upswing...OK...I'll leave that for all you posters to determine. Go ahead...look around. Stop by the I-355 and 159th area for a good close look at all the businesses that have arrived ?? No fear tactics...it is a reality...not a good one...but a reality regardless. Wrong people on the council you say....well.. how much happenned with the LAST council ?? Yeah I know....I'm totally wrong !! Sooner or later blaming the economy won't be enough. Something else is wrong out here. New Lenox got a multi-milion dollar hospital...Lockport gets tank cars ! By the way...the word is "jamoke" not jamjoke. Please quote me correctly...and I do not drink coffee.

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LKPT MAJ TELL THE TRUTH wrote:

<quoted text> You are a total joke! Your posts show who you are. You are going no where. This town was booming under leadership that counted. It is at a complete standstill. This council looks like a group of jerks. We have a multi million dollar medical center with wonderful equipment, no thanks to the present council. They have nothing that they instituted. Yep, they are a joke! Election time will prove that out. Keep screaming!!!!!!! Keep lying!!!!!! But you know something, you lost!!!! And you are losing more each and every meeting with those old duffers. Smart people know how to control themselves. It proves they are not business people as business people do not act like they act in public. Bye!!!!

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Lago Vista wrote:

Let's see if I can understand your analogy.
A valve that breaks on land versus a valve that breaks one mile below the surface of the ocean.
I'd explain the difference but I suspect it would be too difficult for you to understand.
You are right, anything is possible. Remember that when you get in your car today and drive to the store. It is quite possible that an airplane can fall out of the sky after being attacked by Romulins and Klingons and it will fall on your car. You could crawl out from underneath the car, take our your phaser, call Captain Kirk to send down Mr. Spock and you could save the earth!!
Or,
on the way to the store you could be stopped at a railroad crossing 500 feet from the tracks. The train could jump the tracks, spin 16 times in the air and be on the way to wipe out your car. But you are saved by Superman and Spiderman from instant death because the use their combined super powers to lift the train saving you from certain death.
After all, anything could happen.

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Chumbalone wrote:

<quoted text> Anything is possible my friend...ANYTHING. Remember...we were never going to get a hundred year rain ever again. How'd that work our for you. BP said their oil platform had ALL the safety precautions you could ever need. How's that work out for the Gulf. By the way...the area is NOT totally remediated....Chevron and Cogent both said it. Anyway...this is all a moot point. The city has signed off on the "concept" plan which is a "go ahead" in my mind. Sooooooo...GO AHEAD ! Lockport has to live with their decisions. Just think about ALL that tax money you will be saving ! I'll put that one in the same category as the hundred year rain.

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William wrote:

Who cares if it is the same business that was previously there? You act like that is a negative.
Barge and train access can be a bad thing if the users are bringing product to the site by truck (via 9th and 171)to ship out. Inversely, it is a bad thing if barges and trains are bringing in product to ship out by trucks through our town.
This is ideal because it is train in. There is no truck traffic coming out of the site. Only oil is going to be able to use the site this way because the only item that will stay on site is oil going to the tank farm.

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Duke wrote:

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This property is over two miles from the nearest interstate highway...
For that reason, this property is not well suited for industries that require a high level of truck traffic in order to conduct their business.
The two railroads, the Sanitary & Ship Canal and the existing pipelines make this property attractive to industries that can utilize these assets...
Chevron is actively marketing this property, but its unique characteristics limit the potential businesses that might want to locate there.

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Lockport Opinion wrote:

<quoted text>Plainfield, Frankfort, New Lenox, Romeoville, etc.- where all of the other business in the area is growing, not here in Lockport

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Tracy Panepinto wrote:

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So what are those communities doing that Lockport is not? And, how is Chevron marketing this property?

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Jeff wrote:

Food industry, two grain terminals across the canal closed for several years and rotting away. Food processing like corn products, no thanks smells way worse then a refinery let alone just storage. Power plant already closing midwest generation coal plants, so nuke plant or natural gas? How about an ethanol plant? Possiblities are endless but reality is one else is coming.

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Topex wrote:

99 post and no one still gets it. Very limited possibilities for this site. It is zoned for the use brought before the city so they can't turn it down without good reason or they will end up in court wasting money we don't have.
If anyone can please tell me what else can actually go on here it would be very helpful.