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nitk
New Delhi, India
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BHOSDI K MULLO JAB TAK TUMHARI MAA NA CHODU TUMHE SAMAJH NAHI AATAA?
ABE KATTUWO YE BATAAO KI TUM 5-5 BIWIAA RAKHTE HO
APNA LANND KATWATE HO
NON-VEG KHAATE HO CHUTIYO TUMHE JAANWARO PE DAYAA NAHI AATI?
TUM ITNE KATTAR HO KI JABARDASTI NAMAZ PADTE JAB MOOD NA BHI TAB BHI
WORLD MAIN SABSE JAADAA MUSLIM HI UNEDUCATED HAI
APNI RANDI BIWIO KO DHAKK K BAHAR NIKAALTE HO BURKE MAIN(KOI PECHAAN NA LE)
LODUO PAKISTAN BHAAGO
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Since: Mar 08
Singapore
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Scholar wrote: <quoted text>
Did I give any age? Are you capable to read at least?
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As expected you talk like an ignorant that you are. The age of menstruation depends of several factors such as environmental, genetic, nutrition and biology. Yes among other bad things, Quran allows pedophilia.
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I have no idea what are you talking about.
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Yes that is, don't you remember I questioned you few days ago why Iddah was only applied to women and you were unable to give an answer that not contradict the Quran? Do you want expose yourself further as the most ignorant muslim fool once again?
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It's 65:4 and not 65:1 as you stated, yet it's evident your immense ignorance on the subject in question.
Quran 65:1 Allah tells to men that they have to keep their wives after the Iddah is done. What this has to do with what I said?
Quran 65:2 Allah tells that when the termine is coming to the end, the husbands have to treat their "wife" well and they have to bring to righteous eyewitness. What this has to do with what I said?
Quran 65:3 says do what Allah say that Allah helps you.
This is for resume what these verses say about and as evident they have almost nothing to do with Iddah and menstruated girl
Here the real point: Quran 65:4
Quran 65:4 And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubts (about their periods), is three months, and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death]. And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their husbands are dead), their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver (their burdens), and whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make his matter easy for him. I had specifically told you to quote only 65:1 and you did not. What for you wrote "Allah tells men...."? Where is the word 'WIVES' in 65:1? Write the exact translation of 65:1 first and I will take you verse by verse.
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Since: Mar 08
Singapore
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skeptic wrote: <quoted text>And I am saying that God did not restore the contract that was broken by the Jews.
There is no evidence that God restored the old covenant with the Jews.
I don't care if Jews believe in Jesus or not.
That is up to the Jews,
You are knowledhable enough to know that when a contract is broken it is voided out.
The benefits of the contract stop when it is broken. Forget the Contract! As long as one believes in the LORD Almighty, the Contract or the Covenant with the LORD, is not broken. What is worst is that you Christians, have broken God into three pieces. That is butchery and a heinous crime against God. You cannot have a Contract with three persons.
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Scholar
Rome, Italy
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bmz wrote: <quoted text>
I had specifically told you to quote only 65:1 and you did not. What for you wrote "Allah tells men...."?
Where is the word 'WIVES' in 65:1?
Write the exact translation of 65:1 first and I will take you verse by verse. LOL Actually I was always referred to 65:4, which is something that HAS to do with what I was saying, but then you came out with 65:1 that has NOTHING to do with what I said. You are taking that only to waste the time of the poster, since you're speechless and you made a mistake, so the nest tactic you have is to lose the discourse of useless things unrelated with the subjected. Quran 65:1 O Prophet, when you [Muslims] divorce women, divorce them for [the commencement of] their waiting period and keep count of the waiting period, and fear Allah , your Lord. Do not turn them out of their [husbands'] houses, nor should they [themselves] leave [during that period] unless they are committing a clear immorality. And those are the limits [set by] Allah . And whoever transgresses the limits of Allah has certainly wronged himself. You know not; perhaps Allah will bring about after that a [different] matter. The chapter 65th is called 'At Talaq' which means 'The Divorce'. Who do you this chapter is referring to? Between two people (male and female) that are brother and sister? Or friends? Cousins? Can all of them divorce without being married, fool? To divore you have to be married period. Besides the words 'divorce women' used in that verse (65:1)imply that there was a wedding. So clueless fool don't even try to waste my time with your idiotic response about 65:1 which is clear even to the most retarded person of Topix, and let's arrive to 65:4, unless you're scred to find out QURAN ALLOWS PEDOPHILIA.
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JOEL PASTAKIA
India
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Scholar wrote: CORRECTION:
Quran 65:2 "Allah tells that when the TERM is coming to the end..." Let's discuss something more positive and relevant than the dull and boring contents of scripture: 1) What do you think happens to the individual's consciousness after death? 2) Is morality a human construct or is it a natural law? Why? 3) How do you explain the basis and mechanism of psychological suffering and emotional distress? What is the cure?
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Frijoles
Wethersfield, CT
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skeptic wrote: <quoted text>And I am saying that God did not restore the contract that was broken by the Jews.
There is no evidence that God restored the old covenant with the Jews.
I don't care if Jews believe in Jesus or not.
That is up to the Jews,
You are knowledhable enough to know that when a contract is broken it is voided out.
The benefits of the contract stop when it is broken. Thank you for speaking on behalf of God. You can go home now. By the way, this was not the first time in the scripture that the Jews "broke" the covenant. The most famous of the episodes was the episode of Golden Calf. Afterwords, the Jews picked up where they left off. As they do today.
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Eric
Bensenville, IL
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skeptic wrote: <quoted text>And I am saying that God did not restore the contract that was broken by the Jews.
There is no evidence that God restored the old covenant with the Jews.
I don't care if Jews believe in Jesus or not.
That is up to the Jews,
You are knowledhable enough to know that when a contract is broken it is voided out.
The benefits of the contract stop when it is broken. Absolutely not. If a contract that is broken is void, you couldn't sue for damages because there would no longer be a contract to sue on. Then, you need to address the concept of waiver of breach.
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Buford
Huntington, WV
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bmz wrote: Garamba is an ignorant fool, an asshole and an enemy of Islam and the Muslims. I consider Garamba my filthy enemy. I have no regards for that piece of shit!
I do not consider you an enemy, I consider you a nut. You talk nonsense when you are half-drunk. That is the difference.
Carry on reporting. The moderators are intelligent folks, who can read all the exchanges and see for themselves and decide. Your wish is my command. Post http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TT8... has been reported for "abusive language."
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JOEL PASTAKIA
India
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ITALIAN DUDE:
Can you answer these questions?
I am eager to know your answers that should be accompanied by sound reasonings (and supporting proof, if any).
Here are the questions:
1) What do you think happens to the individual's consciousness after death?
2) Is morality a human construct or is it a natural law? Why?
3) How do you explain the basis and mechanism of psychological suffering and emotional distress? What is the cure?
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Frijoles
Wethersfield, CT
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bmz wrote: <quoted text>
Forget the Contract!
As long as one believes in the LORD Almighty, the Contract or the Covenant with the LORD, is not broken. I wouldnt let Skeptic off the hook with this one. The word "brit" (contract/covenant) is very relevant here. Technically speaking, using the appropriate legal language of contract law, the contract is re-executed everytime one gets back on the path. In less legal terms, that would be renewal. Nowhere in the Tanakh does it list renegotiated terms. That is the stuff of the NT.
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JOEL PASTAKIA
India
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Scholar wrote: <quoted text>
QURAN ALLOWS PEDOPHILIA. Is there any mathematical formula or law of physics, biology or chemistry that explains pedophilia giving out the root causes, underlying mechanism and effects and which lays down explicit instructions for or against it? What causes revulsion is sensible people against pedophilia? How do math, physics, chemistry and biology explain the terms "revulsion" and "sensible"?
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Frijoles
Wethersfield, CT
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Eric wrote: <quoted text>
Absolutely not. If a contract that is broken is void, you couldn't sue for damages because there would no longer be a contract to sue on.
Then, you need to address the concept of waiver of breach. Skeptics entire argument is premised on a void. But nowhere in the text does it say the contract is void. There is a strong implicit assumption that the contract can be re-executed, as that was the ENTIRE PURPOSE of the prophetic message. Essentially the prophets are saying "You are doing bad stuff - change your behavior and return to the terms of the covenant so that God can continue being God!"
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Frijoles
Wethersfield, CT
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Eric wrote: <quoted text>
Absolutely not. If a contract that is broken is void, you couldn't sue for damages because there would no longer be a contract to sue on.
Then, you need to address the concept of waiver of breach. Who was Moses's attorney? Aaron?:)
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JOEL PASTAKIA
India
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CORRECTION:
What causes revulsion IN sensible people against pedophilia?
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Scholar
Rome, Italy
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JOEL PASTAKIA wrote: ITALIAN DUDE:
Can you answer these questions?
I am eager to know your answers that should be accompanied by sound reasonings (and supporting proof, if any).
Here are the questions:
1) What do you think happens to the individual's consciousness after death?
2) Is morality a human construct or is it a natural law? Why?
3) How do you explain the basis and mechanism of psychological suffering and emotional distress? What is the cure? You don't want discuss but search attention to posters with questions that you don't know neither answer, but arrogantly you claim you do, giving childish and unproven answer and comically you claim you have "direct experiences" of it, and whatsoever someone say he's wrong.
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JOEL PASTAKIA
India
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Scholar wrote: <quoted text>
You don't want discuss but search attention to posters with questions that you don't know neither answer, but arrogantly you claim you do, giving childish and unproven answer and comically you claim you have "direct experiences" of it, and whatsoever someone say he's wrong. Ok. I don't know the answers. So, if I don't know the answers as you claim then why don't you enlighten me? Here are the questions: 1) What do you think happens to the individual's consciousness after death? 2) Is morality a human construct or is it a natural law? Why? 3) How do you explain the basis and mechanism of psychological suffering and emotional distress? What is the cure? 4) What causes revulsion in sensible people against pedophilia? 5) Is there any mathematical formula or law of physics, biology or chemistry that explains pedophilia giving out the root causes, underlying mechanism and effects and which lays down explicit instructions for or against it? 6) How do math, physics, chemistry and biology explain the terms "revulsion" and "sensible"?
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JOEL PASTAKIA
India
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ITALIAN DUDE"
Please answer these questions.
I am dying to know the answers since I am clueless about the true meaning, causes, mechanisms and effects of these complex and intriguing phenomena.
Here are the questions:
1) What do you think happens to the individual's consciousness after death?
2) Is morality a human construct or is it a natural law? Why?
3) How do you explain the basis and mechanism of psychological suffering and emotional distress? What is the cure?
4) What causes revulsion in sensible people against pedophilia?
5) Is there any mathematical formula or law of physics, biology or chemistry that explains pedophilia giving out the root causes, underlying mechanism and effects and which lays down explicit instructions for or against it?
6) How do math, physics, chemistry and biology explain the terms "revulsion" and "sensible"?
I am waiting for your answers.
I would like to peruse your reasonings, intuitions and supporting proofs.
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JOEL PASTAKIA
India
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Scholar wrote: <quoted text>
unproven answer What do you exactly mean by "unproven answer"?
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Scholar
Rome, Italy
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JOEL PASTAKIA wrote: <quoted text>
Ok. I don't know the answers.
So, if I don't know the answers as you claim then why don't you enlighten me?
Here are the questions:
1) What do you think happens to the individual's consciousness after death?
2) Is morality a human construct or is it a natural law? Why?
3) How do you explain the basis and mechanism of psychological suffering and emotional distress? What is the cure?
4) What causes revulsion in sensible people against pedophilia?
5) Is there any mathematical formula or law of physics, biology or chemistry that explains pedophilia giving out the root causes, underlying mechanism and effects and which lays down explicit instructions for or against it?
6) How do math, physics, chemistry and biology explain the terms "revulsion" and "sensible"? INDIAN DUDE: Your game does not work with me, find another 'prey' to play with, to enjoy your free-time on net. Good luck.
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JOEL PASTAKIA
India
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Scholar wrote: <quoted text>
childish and unproven answer What exactly do you mean by the term "childish" with respect to my answers? By the way, which theorem or law of math, physics, chemistry or biology defines the term "childish" giving the supporting "physical" proof of the same? Is there any concrete explanation and physical proof of "childishness" in terms of formulae, theorems and laws of math, physics, chemistry and biology?
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