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The Theory of Intelligent Design

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Bible Belt

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Nov 7, 2009
 
I choose to believe the idea known as SCP ID. Briefly stated we believe the Universe is a System made up of Systems that are designed by the Creator for specific purpose and they are harmonious in the interacting of elements or components to the extent of their purpose. These Systems all have characteristics of regularly repeated cycles or events that occur in sequence. The mechanism of creation would be visually seen as patterns although they may not be directly observable. Many patterns are decorative and circular or radius of curvature to oval and many times very colorful as if they were a motif to beauty that is pleasing to the Creator.
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Nov 7, 2009
 
Bible Belt wrote:
I choose to believe the idea known as SCP ID. Briefly stated we believe the Universe is a System made up of Systems that are designed by the Creator for specific purpose and they are harmonious in the interacting of elements or components to the extent of their purpose. These Systems all have characteristics of regularly repeated cycles or events that occur in sequence. The mechanism of creation would be visually seen as patterns although they may not be directly observable. Many patterns are decorative and circular or radius of curvature to oval and many times very colorful as if they were a motif to beauty that is pleasing to the Creator.
I think someone has just upset an apple cart!
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Nov 8, 2009
 
This is the giant theory of Systems, Cycles and Patterns. I have seen it on the evolution forum. This is a new intelligent design scientific method.
Truthman

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Nov 13, 2009
 
Circular in radius also means round like the sun or the shape of a cell.

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Nov 14, 2009
 
Truthman wrote:
Circular in radius also means round like the sun or the shape of a cell.
When we say we think the mechanism of creation has patterns circular or radius of curvature to oval we are saying many of these ellipses are not all similar to each other but they may be defined in terms of the axis of rotation. We think all natural systems have specified requirements and our approach to understanding the behaviour of complex systems through SCP ID is new and different as compared to the general systems research and systems thinking that has been done in the past. We describe the universe as a group of objects that were designed to work together to produce a purposeful result. In explaining the shapes of these assembled elements we think purposeful overassembly may cause rounder shapes and normal may be somewhat elongated.

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Nov 14, 2009
 
Truthman wrote:
Circular in radius also means round like the sun or the shape of a cell.
More in answer to the question, the sun is more rounded because of its magnetic activity and may appear more oblate occasionally, it is related to the surface rotation which dominates the solar shape. With most cells we think normal is somewhat elongate and mutant cells have higher incidence of roundness. Round shape denotes a high level of tension and an overassembly may cause rounder shapes.

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Nov 14, 2009
 
Many objects that are left over parts in the creation process such as asteroids, and comet nuclei frequently have irregular shapes and their cycles come from the original beginnings. Objects are many times defined in terms of the axis of rotation for example the earths moon is effectively spherical, having no bulge at its equator.
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Nov 15, 2009
 
Bible Belt wrote:
Many objects that are left over parts in the creation process such as asteroids, and comet nuclei frequently have irregular shapes and their cycles come from the original beginnings. Objects are many times defined in terms of the axis of rotation for example the earths moon is effectively spherical, having no bulge at its equator.
The orbits of these left over parts are regular even though the shapes may be irregular.
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Nov 15, 2009
 
About those who promote "Intelligent Design":
'They' say: "We promote the scientific evidence of intelligent design"
I say: There is no "---scientific evidence of intelligent design" 'They' say: "The theory of intelligent design (ID) holds that certain features
of the Universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause". I say: This is absurd! Hogwash! An idiot's conjecture!

My Observations:
For "intelligent design" or "intelligent cause" to be a serious consideration; a beginning must be found! Without a beginning; there is no need for; a 'so called' first cause; "intelligent cause"; or a 'first designer', of an "intelligent design"! In conjecturing "intelligent design" they are asserting an intelligence existed prior to all else! This amounts to a 'first cause.' But, the assertion does not explain the origin of the 'design'er! Or the 'first cause'! So this theory is as valid as the story of the three little pigs! It's just another 'Religious' fairy-tale. One must of necessity, find a beginning in order to demonstrate a 'first cause' "intelligent cause" or 'so called 'intelligent design'!

INTELLIGENT DESIGN, & CREATIONISM VS EVOLUTION?
If "intelligent design" and "creationism"are "theories," why is so much fuss made about them? Why insist that they be taught to children as something they must believe when in fact they are merely pseudonyms for religious conjecture once proffered by the same simple people who believed the world was flat? Why present some make-believe fairy-tale character as the so called "Designer" or "Creator," and insist children must believe this or face a terrible fate? And why do we grant "tax free" status to these same racketeers who use the funds to gain control of every means possible for spreading their universally divisive bigoted and prejudicial assertions that thus effect every phase of our lives including their influencing the outcome of Presidential Elections, that bodes the end of democracy? An important difference between "Intelligent Design" & "Creationism" Vs "evolution" is: the cost in minds and money! No one insists that you must believe evolution; attend a temple and get on your knees; and base your decisions and way of life on it; or make cash donations to support representatives of a foreign organization who act as some sort paid agents or intermediaries, as do the proponents of "Intelligent Design or 'Creationists'!

DON'T YOU KNOW:
Religion, Judaism, Christianity, Islam etc.; result from outpourings of charlatans and imbeciles who believed the World was flat?'Christianity' derives from the "Jewish" "Judaism" which dates back a mere 4,200 years. Before that, the term "God" was used to describe: fears; dangers; and incomprehensible evils! Isn't it therefore scornfully ironic that the term "God" has been so twisted by those rotten crooks to supposedly mean something completely opposite? And 'we' have been fools to 'tolerate' their 'Charade'?

"Tolerance" like "Faith" is for FOOLS!
Glenn

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#11
Nov 15, 2009
 
Anoracle wrote:
About those who promote "Intelligent Design":
'They' say: "We promote the scientific evidence of intelligent design"
I say: There is no "---scientific evidence of intelligent design" 'They' say: "The theory of intelligent design (ID) holds that certain features
of the Universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause". I say: This is absurd! Hogwash! An idiot's conjecture!
My Observations:
For "intelligent design" or "intelligent cause" to be a serious consideration; a beginning must be found! Without a beginning; there is no need for; a 'so called' first cause; "intelligent cause"; or a 'first designer', of an "intelligent design"! In conjecturing "intelligent design" they are asserting an intelligence existed prior to all else! This amounts to a 'first cause.' But, the assertion does not explain the origin of the 'design'er! Or the 'first cause'! So this theory is as valid as the story of the three little pigs! It's just another 'Religious' fairy-tale. One must of necessity, find a beginning in order to demonstrate a 'first cause' "intelligent cause" or 'so called 'intelligent design'!
INTELLIGENT DESIGN, & CREATIONISM VS EVOLUTION?
If "intelligent design" and "creationism"are "theories," why is so much fuss made about them? Why insist that they be taught to children as something they must believe when in fact they are merely pseudonyms for religious conjecture once proffered by the same simple people who believed the world was flat? Why present some make-believe fairy-tale character as the so called "Designer" or "Creator," and insist children must believe this or face a terrible fate? And why do we grant "tax free" status to these same racketeers who use the funds to gain control of every means possible for spreading their universally divisive bigoted and prejudicial assertions that thus effect every phase of our lives including their influencing the outcome of Presidential Elections, that bodes the end of democracy? An important difference between "Intelligent Design" & "Creationism" Vs "evolution" is: the cost in minds and money! No one insists that you must believe evolution; attend a temple and get on your knees; and base your decisions and way of life on it; or make cash donations to support representatives of a foreign organization who act as some sort paid agents or intermediaries, as do the proponents of "Intelligent Design or 'Creationists'!
DON'T YOU KNOW:
Religion, Judaism, Christianity, Islam etc.; result from outpourings of charlatans and imbeciles who believed the World was flat?'Christianity' derives from the "Jewish" "Judaism" which dates back a mere 4,200 years. Before that, the term "God" was used to describe: fears; dangers; and incomprehensible evils! Isn't it therefore scornfully ironic that the term "God" has been so twisted by those rotten crooks to supposedly mean something completely opposite? And 'we' have been fools to 'tolerate' their 'Charade'?
"Tolerance" like "Faith" is for FOOLS!
I must admit some of these Intelligent Design insights are just ideas, However to call them all hogwash sounds like an idiots conjecture in itself. Not everyone is insisting on teaching them to children as something they must believe, that sounds like what the schools are doing with evolution though. To say that the evidence shows mankind is an ape species is a terrible tale in itself and to grant governments money to tell it is useing a great means to influence. It is a cost in minds and money. To out right say to our children that all the evidence that has ever been found or ever will be states a Creator and designer is a fairy tale denotes closed mindedness.
Shawn

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Nov 16, 2009
 
The rotten crooks might be the people who don't like new thinking.
Shawn

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#13
Nov 18, 2009
 
We might have been fools to have tolerated evolution and its anti GOD stance for so long.
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Nov 21, 2009
 
Bible Belt wrote:
I choose to believe the idea known as SCP ID. Briefly stated we believe the Universe is a System made up of Systems that are designed by the Creator for specific purpose and they are harmonious in the interacting of elements or components to the extent of their purpose. These Systems all have characteristics of regularly repeated cycles or events that occur in sequence. The mechanism of creation would be visually seen as patterns although they may not be directly observable. Many patterns are decorative and circular or radius of curvature to oval and many times very colorful as if they were a motif to beauty that is pleasing to the Creator.
The universe must be blue in color if we could see it in total.
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Nov 22, 2009
 
Anoracle wrote:
About those who promote "Intelligent Design":
'They' say: "We promote the scientific evidence of intelligent design"
I say: There is no "---scientific evidence of intelligent design" 'They' say: "The theory of intelligent design (ID) holds that certain features
of the Universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause". I say: This is absurd! Hogwash! An idiot's conjecture!
My Observations:
For "intelligent design" or "intelligent cause" to be a serious consideration; a beginning must be found! Without a beginning; there is no need for; a 'so called' first cause; "intelligent cause"; or a 'first designer', of an "intelligent design"! In conjecturing "intelligent design" they are asserting an intelligence existed prior to all else! This amounts to a 'first cause.' But, the assertion does not explain the origin of the 'design'er! Or the 'first cause'! So this theory is as valid as the story of the three little pigs! It's just another 'Religious' fairy-tale. One must of necessity, find a beginning in order to demonstrate a 'first cause' "intelligent cause" or 'so called 'intelligent design'!
INTELLIGENT DESIGN, & CREATIONISM VS EVOLUTION?
If "intelligent design" and "creationism"are "theories," why is so much fuss made about them? Why insist that they be taught to children as something they must believe when in fact they are merely pseudonyms for religious conjecture once proffered by the same simple people who believed the world was flat? Why present some make-believe fairy-tale character as the so called "Designer" or "Creator," and insist children must believe this or face a terrible fate? And why do we grant "tax free" status to these same racketeers who use the funds to gain control of every means possible for spreading their universally divisive bigoted and prejudicial assertions that thus effect every phase of our lives including their influencing the outcome of Presidential Elections, that bodes the end of democracy? An important difference between "Intelligent Design" & "Creationism" Vs "evolution" is: the cost in minds and money! No one insists that you must believe evolution; attend a temple and get on your knees; and base your decisions and way of life on it; or make cash donations to support representatives of a foreign organization who act as some sort paid agents or intermediaries, as do the proponents of "Intelligent Design or 'Creationists'!
DON'T YOU KNOW:
Religion, Judaism, Christianity, Islam etc.; result from outpourings of charlatans and imbeciles who believed the World was flat?'Christianity' derives from the "Jewish" "Judaism" which dates back a mere 4,200 years. Before that, the term "God" was used to describe: fears; dangers; and incomprehensible evils! Isn't it therefore scornfully ironic that the term "God" has been so twisted by those rotten crooks to supposedly mean something completely opposite? And 'we' have been fools to 'tolerate' their 'Charade'?
"Tolerance" like "Faith" is for FOOLS!
Why cant you see the first cause was God and in the beginning the first thing he said was Let there be light.
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Nov 24, 2009
 
Evolution has beat a bad horse nearly to death and the scientist still can't come up with convincing evidence. It is time for a new look at intelligent design.
Bible belt

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#17
Nov 25, 2009
 
This is such a wide spread hot topic it is a wonder we don't see more ideas in this area of intelligent design.
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Nov 29, 2009
 
The powers that be have already lead everybodies asses to the evolution water and they are making them drink polluted stuff.
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Nov 30, 2009
 
Anoracle wrote:
About those who promote "Intelligent Design":
'They' say: "We promote the scientific evidence of intelligent design"
I say: There is no "---scientific evidence of intelligent design" 'They' say: "The theory of intelligent design (ID) holds that certain features
of the Universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause". I say: This is absurd! Hogwash! An idiot's conjecture!
My Observations:
For "intelligent design" or "intelligent cause" to be a serious consideration; a beginning must be found! Without a beginning; there is no need for; a 'so called' first cause; "intelligent cause"; or a 'first designer', of an "intelligent design"! In conjecturing "intelligent design" they are asserting an intelligence existed prior to all else! This amounts to a 'first cause.' But, the assertion does not explain the origin of the 'design'er! Or the 'first cause'! So this theory is as valid as the story of the three little pigs! It's just another 'Religious' fairy-tale. One must of necessity, find a beginning in order to demonstrate a 'first cause' "intelligent cause" or 'so called 'intelligent design'!
INTELLIGENT DESIGN, & CREATIONISM VS EVOLUTION?
If "intelligent design" and "creationism"are "theories," why is so much fuss made about them? Why insist that they be taught to children as something they must believe when in fact they are merely pseudonyms for religious conjecture once proffered by the same simple people who believed the world was flat? Why present some make-believe fairy-tale character as the so called "Designer" or "Creator," and insist children must believe this or face a terrible fate? And why do we grant "tax free" status to these same racketeers who use the funds to gain control of every means possible for spreading their universally divisive bigoted and prejudicial assertions that thus effect every phase of our lives including their influencing the outcome of Presidential Elections, that bodes the end of democracy? An important difference between "Intelligent Design" & "Creationism" Vs "evolution" is: the cost in minds and money! No one insists that you must believe evolution; attend a temple and get on your knees; and base your decisions and way of life on it; or make cash donations to support representatives of a foreign organization who act as some sort paid agents or intermediaries, as do the proponents of "Intelligent Design or 'Creationists'!
DON'T YOU KNOW:
Religion, Judaism, Christianity, Islam etc.; result from outpourings of charlatans and imbeciles who believed the World was flat?'Christianity' derives from the "Jewish" "Judaism" which dates back a mere 4,200 years. Before that, the term "God" was used to describe: fears; dangers; and incomprehensible evils! Isn't it therefore scornfully ironic that the term "God" has been so twisted by those rotten crooks to supposedly mean something completely opposite? And 'we' have been fools to 'tolerate' their 'Charade'?
"Tolerance" like "Faith" is for FOOLS!
What is the problem with assuming the universe was created by an intellect with intent?
Free bird Willy

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Thursday Dec 3
 
Bible Belt wrote:
I choose to believe the idea known as SCP ID. Briefly stated we believe the Universe is a System made up of Systems that are designed by the Creator for specific purpose and they are harmonious in the interacting of elements or components to the extent of their purpose. These Systems all have characteristics of regularly repeated cycles or events that occur in sequence. The mechanism of creation would be visually seen as patterns although they may not be directly observable. Many patterns are decorative and circular or radius of curvature to oval and many times very colorful as if they were a motif to beauty that is pleasing to the Creator.
This is the only scientific approach to date that explains the mechanism of ID. If one can prove that all of nature follows preset patterns from the smallest to the largest elements, then this idea has merit.

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Saturday Dec 5
 
O, Lord, my God
When I, in awesome wonder
consider all the worlds thy hands have made
I see the stars I hear the rolling thunder
Thy power thru out the universe displayed
Then sings my soul my Saviour God to thee
How great thou art How great thou art
Then sings my soul my God to thee
O How great thou art How great thou art
And when I think that God
his son not sparing sent to die
I scarce can take it in that on the cross
my burdens bearing
he bled and died to take away my sins
When Christ shall come
with shout of acclamation
and take me home what joy shall fill my heart
Then I shall bow in humble adoration
and there proclaim MY GOD HOW GREAT THOU ART
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