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PYPR......
The last posting was information provided by a newspaper article regarding Kyle Bartley’s poly drug death toxicology report and a statement from Butte County chief deputy coroner John Kuhn regarding his overdose. These are not my words but from the article in the newspaper regarding Kyle’s autopsy report. Officer Kuhn describes Kyle’s death as a “polypharmacy poisoning”. This is what is technically considered a poly drug death. Here is the exact quote from the article “When Kyle Bartley tested positive in a toxicology test for a mix of cocaine, the painkiller oxycodone and diphenhydramine, which is common in sleep aids. He died of acute polypharmacy poisoning, said John Kuhn, Butte County chief deputy coroner. His death was ruled accidental, Kuhn said. When an overdose death is accidental, there usually isn’t an investigation or charges.” No evidence of foul play? Just an otherwise healthy 21 year old student is dead. This scenario happens all the time in Chico, three dead students here, four dead students there, no evidence of foul play and you and the police say no problem. I guess after you see the bodies piling up after a while it would seem normal. Let’s not forget Councilwoman Flynn, a functioning poly drug addict. Good God, no wonder students dropping dead from poly drug overdoses seems acceptable to you. Then to make the situation even worse law enforcement does not investigate drug overdoses, so drug dealers are immune from prosecution in Butte County. No wonder moving drugs in Chico is such a lucrative business, if your drug sale kills someone your home free. Move a little coke, methadone and oxy, cover your next fix, one dead kid and no one cares enough to find out who provided the drugs. I’ll accept YOU as part of the human condition and ask YOU to move on. I prefer to address this human tragedy of addicted children and young adults dying while scummy drug dealers get high and walk free without accountability until somebody finally wakes up. That is if their not to stoned. |
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Trying to take down all the drug dealers in this town would be a never ending task. As a Chico state student I can make an estimate from first hand experience that probably 1 in 10 students deals or has dealt some sort of drug. The more serious issue at hand in my opinion is each students willingness to consume these drugs repeatedly weekend after weekend. Something needs to be done in terms of Drug use prevention. Students need to realize that the drugs they are taking and mixing can and will kill them or a friend of theirs. Its disgusting to go to parties and realize everyone is coked out of their mind. Trying to get all the "bad guy" drug dealers is a great idea but very unlikely. PLus chances are pinpointing the exact dealer who sold the deadly drugs is not very likely or easy. & on top of that you are only taking out the lowly pusher, what about the main provider?? he'll just find a new pusher & the problem will live on. What Chico really needs to do is focus on drug education amoung the student population because truthfully the demand is so high for any sort of substance to get high off that the drugs practically sell themselves... |
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I agree that taking down all the drug dealers would be impossible. I only recommend an aggressive police action when someone dies from illicit drugs, then in my opinion it should be any effort possible by law enforcement to bring the drug supplier to the gallows. To date no drug dealer has been charged with any of the seven students poly drug deaths in Chico. It is the same as getting paid, getting high and getting away with murder with the drug pushers, this must change. When someone dies from illicit drugs every effort from police should be made to find the source of those drugs. If someone made a profit selling those drugs to the person who died hang the supplier, life with no chance for parole. With no penalty in place for those profiting selling illicit drugs while uninformed children die tells every drug dealer it’s open season, no accountability in Chico. Someone dies police should find the source of what killed them. Police do a lot of back slapping when a drug dealer is busted for selling, but when a drug dealer’s drugs kill students police just turn their backs. Police do not stop investigating when someone is shot /dies just because they know the caliber of the gun; at the very least I believe they try to find who owned the gun. Projecting high school statistics using & moving drugs for college students is likely closer to over 60%, this includes alcohol. Knowing this I have empathy with the lack of drug prevention provided by supposedly higher education; Vice President of student affairs Drew Calendellera position is they have no reason or obligation to promote illicit drug prevention education, only alcohol education and if u ask them, their alcohol program is working great. Until the student body gets tired of burying their own and demands the University help students stay safe and healthy with prevention education regarding illicit drugs, currently it seems the University does not care how many of them die. |
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"The more serious issue at hand in my opinion is each students willingness to consume these drugs repeatedly weekend after weekend."
Don't the hours that the incoming freshman do for alcohol and drugs cover this? I am pretty sure it does and this is not a common thing for all colleges, you cant blaim the school. It is a societal issue not just Chico. |
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Your absolutely correct,"The more serious issue at hand in my opinion is each students willingness to consume these drugs repeatedly weekend after weekend." I agree 100% "Don't the hours that the incoming freshman do for alcohol and drugs cover this?" Great question! Less than half of the incoming freshmen receive prevention from the Wellness & Counseling Center, only the students who live on Campus. The Chico State Administration only makes sure these $$$ hi-end students receive prevention for two reasons, keep wealthy moms & dads happy and keep liability insurance rates down for housing students. As far as all the students receiving alcohol education, the students call it a joke. On line questionnaire that they answer until they get the correct answer. It does though cover CSU Administrations back side and this seems to be the real priority. For the over 50% of freshmen they receive nothing. One other point everyone in the prevention community knows that one hit wonder types of prevention programs while worthwhile are not effective by themselves. It has to be a comprehensive prevention effort, throughout the school year along with one time programs that work. "It is a societal issue not just Chico". Once again your 100% correct! Society promotes and endorses taking pills and drugs. Society does not take responsibility for the millions of teenage addicts that are being consumed. Society watches as generation after generation of addiction abuses and consumes children. Society "Chico" complacently watches one after another student die from poly-drug overdoses and nothing is done to prevent the next death. In one six month period in one county in Florida over 6.5 million oxycodone pills were prescribed by Physicians. Many of the oxycodone and other illict drugs were shipped and sold illegally in Kentucky. DEA recently busted over 500 individuals involved, last year in Kentucky they had close to 800 poly drug deaths. These legal pushers "Physicians" working with the illegal pushers kill people and it' all about making money. Blame? Especially the University, watching seven students die in Chico over the last 36 months "possibly eight" and all they do is sit on the greedy little gold lined pockets. But I would not want to leave out you, me and everyone else, especially those who act as conveniently blind as the University! |
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"& on top of that you are only taking out the lowly pusher"
You are only talking about the lowly murderer. A hard lesson, but maybe that 1 in 10 need to learn they are murderers too. Drunk drivers don't intend to murder either. They need to learn the hard lesson or there will always be 1 out of 10. |
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I could not agree more, being an accessory to murder is a felony. Being an accessory to a drug overdose death is no different. Whether you sold the illegal drugs to the victim or were simply getting using illegal drugs with the victim, you participated in the death of the victim. When you participate in someones death via an illegal substance that is a punishable crime. You also bring up a great point regarding the drunk driver. If the current Chico Police policy of do nothing about drug sellers or friend users not being held accountable for their friends drug overdose deaths is correct, they should also do nothing when a passenger is killed by their friend the drunk driver. The passenger got in the car on their own free will, no one forced them to ride with a drunk. As u said the drunk didn't mean to kill their friend. This is the failure & hypocritical standard of the law enforcement and the legal system. It is odd though, u think the police would want to punish druggies more than drunks. Maybe finding a drunk is really easy and doing real investigation work is challenging &difficult. |
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DEA stats
Nearly 7 million Americans are abusing prescription drugs*—more than the number who are abusing cocaine, heroin, hallucinogens, Ecstasy, and inhalants, combined. That 7 million was just 3.8 million in 2000, an 80 percent increase in just 6 years. # Prescription pain relievers are new drug users’ drug of choice, vs. marijuana or cocaine. # Opioid painkillers now cause more drug overdose deaths than cocaine and heroin combined. # Nearly 1 in 10 high school seniors admits to abusing powerful prescription painkillers. A shocking 40 percent of teens and an almost equal number of their parents think abusing prescription painkillers is safer than abusing "street" drugs. # Misuse of painkillers represents three-fourths of the overall problem of prescription drug abuse; hydrocodone is the most commonly diverted and abused controlled pharmaceutical in the U.S. # Twenty-five percent of drug-related emergency department visits are associated with abuse of prescription drugs. # Methods of acquiring prescription drugs for abuse include “doctor-shopping,” traditional drug-dealing, theft from pharmacies or homes, illicitly acquiring prescription drugs via the Internet, and from friends or relatives. |
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If you feel CPD is not doing a thorough job in investigating these deaths, contact the California Attorney General of the DOJ and report it. That is what they are there for! |
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Joe....great suggestion. It seems in another case back east where three men where prosecuted for furnishing/using drugs that cause an overdose death the Federal AG's office helped successfully prosecute the case. So I just left a message at the Federal AG's Sac office and at least will share Chico's history of seven so called accidental polydrug overdose deaths that were not prosecuted and possibly and eighth to see what their take is. |
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The Len Bias Law, provides for a mandatory minimum term of incarceration for 20 years and a maximum life sentence for a dealer who distributes drugs that cause death or serious bodily injury.9 Therefore, drug dealers face a penalty of no less than 20 years in federal prison if it can be determined that the drugs they sold caused the overdose, regardless of the quantity. In federal, as well as most state, prosecutions, sentences for drug crimes are determined by the quantity of drugs sold. In cases involving an overdose, however, the quantity of drug sold is secondary, possibly even irrelevant, in determining a defendant’s sentence. It is not necessary that the victim die from a drug overdose for this law to apply. The Len Bias Law provides for the same punishment if death or serious bodily injury occurs as a result of the drugs.10 Federal law defines serious bodily injury as that which involves, “a substantial risk of death; protracted and obvious disfigurement; or protracted loss or impairment of the function of a bodily member, organ, or mental faculty.”11 If the victim suffers a drug overdose but does not die, investigators should consult with their prosecutor to determine if the overdose falls within the definition of serious bodily injury.
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Facts
“With enough evidence law enforcement can prosecute drug dealers or users who sell, give or use illicit drugs that harm or kill another individual for murder or manslaughter.” • Drug dealers or users who have sold, gave or used illicit drugs with the seven students who died from drug overdoses in Chico over the last 36 months have never been questioned as potential suspects regarding their role in these drug overdose deaths. • Drug dealers or users who have sold, gave or used illicit drugs with the seven students who died from drug overdoses in Chico over the last 36 months have not been detained as a potential suspects regarding their role in these drug overdose deaths. • Drug dealers or users who have sold, gave or used illicit drugs with the seven students who died from drug overdoses in Chico over the last 36 months have never been tried regarding their role in these drug overdose deaths. • Drug dealers or users who have sold, gave or used illicit drugs with the seven students who died from drug overdoses in Chico over the last 36 months have never been prosecuted regarding their role in these drug overdose deaths. • Drug dealers or users who have sold, gave or used illicit drugs with the seven students who died in Chico from drug overdoses over the last 36 months today walk the streets of Chico , sell and use illicit drugs with children, young adults, and adults even though they have potentially committed murder or manslaughter. • Drug dealers or users who have sold, gave or used illicit drugs with the seven students who died from drug overdoses in Chico over the last 36 months know that if someone dies from their actions that past Chico police history shows they will not be questioned, held or prosecuted for murder or manslaughter. •“With enough evidence police can prosecute drug dealers or users who have sell, give or use illicit drugs that harm or kill another individual for murder or manslaughter.” |
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Facts
The Federal Bureau of Investigation says “All fatal drug overdoses are to be investigated as a homicide.” • Drug dealers or users who have sold, gave or used illicit drugs with the seven students who died from drug overdoses in Chico over the last 36 months have never been questioned as potential suspects regarding their role in these drug overdose deaths. • Drug dealers or users who have sold, gave or used illicit drugs with the seven students who died from drug overdoses in Chico over the last 36 months have not been detained, charged or arrested as a potential suspects regarding their role in these drug overdose deaths. • Drug dealers or users who have sold, gave or used illicit drugs with the seven students who died from drug overdoses in Chico over the last 36 months have never been tried regarding their role in these drug overdose deaths. • Drug dealers or users who have sold, gave or used illicit drugs with the seven students who died from drug overdoses in Chico over the last 36 months have never been prosecuted regarding their role in these drug overdose deaths. • Drug dealers or users who have sold, gave or used illicit drugs with the seven students who died in Chico from drug overdoses over the last 36 months today walk the streets of Chico , sell and use illicit drugs with children, young adults, and adults even though they have potentially committed murder or manslaughter. • Drug dealers or users who have sold, gave or used illicit drugs with the seven students who died from drug overdoses in Chico over the last 36 months know that if someone dies from their actions that past Chico police history shows they will not be questioned, held or prosecuted for murder or manslaughter. •“With enough evidence police can prosecute drug dealers or users who have sell, give or use illicit drugs that harm or kill another individual for murder or manslaughter.” • In Chico, Ca. seven students in 36 months have died from drug overdoses and Chico police determined all seven were completely accidental and no one else was involved. |
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Nearly 8 weeks and still no autopsy, sorry Gina.
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Nearly 8 weeks and still no toxicology report, sorry Gina's family & friends.
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I don't understand. Why is this taking so long. Could this mean there is more to the investigation? Family and friends need to find peace and I don't think this will happen until they have answers. |
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It probably just means that the meth-guy doesn't know the proper procedure to procure what part of the report, if any, is public. Most medical records are not public and access to death certificates is now under tighter controls. |
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Not so my good discrediting assumption jumper, I have made contact with the coroners office directly. They told me personally it could, I said could, take up to 12 weeks. By then any and all leads in the case will have become completely cold. Too Bad. A coroners report is paid for by public funds and therefore is public information. Tighter controls, yeah that helps everyone stay in the dark. Seriously, I am sure you are all for that. |
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Not so my good discrediting assumption jumper, I have made contact with the coroners office directly. They told me personally it could, I said could, take up to 12 weeks. By then any and all leads in the case will have become completely cold. Too bad for Gina's family & friends. A coroners report is paid for by public funds and therefore is public information. Tighter controls, yeah that helps everyone stay in the dark. Seriously, I am sure you are all for that. |
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I talked with a law enforcement official he said the labs are so backed up that this is a normal length of time. Believe me their is nothing more to the investigation, the investigation is over. This is how police handle suspected drug overdoses, accidental death end of investigation. Your right the traumatized family and friends of Gina and Gina deserve better. |
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