Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Idiot??
Friend....what else do you have to say???
You've been in here for what....YEARS????
LOL!!!
Is that your best attempt? Sad really.

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Actually ten countries currently allow gay marriage.
You are free to move to one of them.
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I'll tell ya dude.

We (people of colored minorities) have won by "Occupation".

We have mingled with your children.

They are now ours. We marry your daughters and sons. They have Our children. Then "WE" teach them to accept "US". We win again.

When "they" your children accept us, they also what we teach them. We win again.

Gringos are so "STUPID", they don't even know when they have lost their Country !

Your Government. Pays, Us billions of dollars to Occupy America. An "IT" your Government buys "US" groceries.

Your government pays "US" retirement,

Not only "THAT", "IT" (your Government) pays "US" Billions of dollars in a seperate Program for free medical, while "WE" (the minority) "Occupy",(your Land).

It is "Clear" the "Caucasions" (a group identified as white Humans) have "Lost".

We win again.

Problem "IS", "They" (the Caucasions) are so stupid "THEY" have not figured out,

that,

"THEY" have lost their "COUNTRY"...

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On topix This "TRUTH" is not their cup of Tea...
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He thinks it's just about the sex.....and it's not!!!
I would really like to spend some time in your household to see if what you claim is really true !! I'll sleep on a cott in your bedroom ok ???
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No, I truly don't believe you do.......and yes, Same-Sex Couples who are legally married are EXACTLY the same as any other legally married couple......THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY REASONING.......the ability to procreate is truly irrelevant.
NOT!!... Does your wife constantly tell you to put the toilet seat down ???? LMAO
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My wife guards my heart more than their her own and I like wise do the same for her:-)
We both are there through the good times and the bad, we don't make excuses for anything and we are constantly there for each other.
We have made a lifelong commitment again throughout our very life existence and because we are soul mates, our spirits are very much in tune with each other.
My wife is certainly very familiar with my soul's secrets as she has intimate knowledge of them through out our very existences.......we are soul mates and have vowed to be with each other through this lifetime and beyond.
The rest of your post will find the same response as the ones I've already made comments to........and yes, a "REAL" Marriage is not about my needs being met or fulfilled, but that we each are able to meet and fulfill the other's needs.....and we do.
Again, just because we are 2 women, we still have our own uniqueness and we still must learn what makes the other tick in order to take care all of the things that our spouse needs from us.
You believe that only a man and a woman have special uniqueness that the other doesn't have, but that is also just a small portion of what makes a marriage a marriage.
In my opinion one of the most important aspect of a marriage is to NEVER TAKE YOUR SPOUSE FOR GRANTED OR THE RELATIONSHIP......obviously that happens way to much in an opposite-sex marriage........possibly why the divorce rate is so high.
Oh and another thing.......many people search a lifetime for their soul mate......I was lucky enough to find mine and have the opportunity to marry her and make her my wife:-)
Your marriage is very unique; it sounds like a fairy tale. I believe even SSM has a high divorce rate or as equal to a heterosexual one. After such a nice story, yours is still NOT the same,and America sees it too, but keep on thinking it. What ever makes you happy
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Real good.
Broke & working my ass off and scratching lottery tickets when I can find a dollar in change but good.
You too - I'll have to call.
Do you serve Buttered pancakes some where in "old Sac" ?? It must be tough depending on tips from cheap ass politicians huh ??
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KiMare is sleeping.
SSSSHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
It took his momma this long to get enough cherry flavored Nyquil in the boy and under his Star Wars quilt to get the little man to stop ranting about why stop signs should be square, cat hair makes the best swaeaters and why gays should not blow kisses to each other.
It sounds like the butter went to your head
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Gotta go to sleep. Night peeps. Be good. Don't steal, pee on your neighbors daisies, scare old ladies into wetting their Depends or cheat on your taxes. For more than 4 years in a row. God loves us all.
And the people in here thing you are just being funny, you think you are just being funny, but in reality you are being honest about yourself, we see right through you. Hide in plain sight. If you can afford it go seek some medical help you need it

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Edgar wrote:
So you're saying that marriage's purpose is to reproduce? OKAY. Just a question, though. After taking a couple minutes to look on [URL deleted], I still have yet to find where they describe in explicit detail that reproduction is the main purpose of marriage. Can you find it? Because I sure can't.(Also, why can sterile people get married then?)
Not just reproduce, marriage also helps raise children.

How would Ed stop sterile people from getting married?

The left is just full of bad ideas.

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....yet, you tell me that my marriage is different from their based STRICTLY on their supposed ability to procreate....
Really? Where did I say that?

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That is quite nice. It also describes the relationship between the two ladies living next door.
It is clear you missed the essence of 'one'.

You thought I was referring to the other member of a marriage.

There was a moment in time when male and female first appeared from genderless life forms. Marriage models that earliest evolutionary existence, that pre-gender life form. The return to 'one' by a male and female.

A SS couple never can.

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My wife guards my heart more than their her own and I like wise do the same for her:-)
We both are there through the good times and the bad, we don't make excuses for anything and we are constantly there for each other.
We have made a lifelong commitment again throughout our very life existence and because we are soul mates, our spirits are very much in tune with each other.
My wife is certainly very familiar with my soul's secrets as she has intimate knowledge of them through out our very existences.......we are soul mates and have vowed to be with each other through this lifetime and beyond.
The rest of your post will find the same response as the ones I've already made comments to........and yes, a "REAL" Marriage is not about my needs being met or fulfilled, but that we each are able to meet and fulfill the other's needs.....and we do.
Again, just because we are 2 women, we still have our own uniqueness and we still must learn what makes the other tick in order to take care all of the things that our spouse needs from us.
You believe that only a man and a woman have special uniqueness that the other doesn't have, but that is also just a small portion of what makes a marriage a marriage.
In my opinion one of the most important aspect of a marriage is to NEVER TAKE YOUR SPOUSE FOR GRANTED OR THE RELATIONSHIP......obviously that happens way to much in an opposite-sex marriage........possibly why the divorce rate is so high.
Oh and another thing.......many people search a lifetime for their soul mate......I was lucky enough to find mine and have the opportunity to marry her and make her my wife:-)
Read my response to Winston.

A SS couple can never achieve the complexity and diversity of 'oneness' that a marriage creates. There is no comparison with any other relationship.

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Dude.
Homosexuality has been recorded in over 1500 species.
Homophobia has only been recorded in one.
Which one seems more logical to you?
Egor,

Same sex sexual behavior (SSSB) has been observed in over 1500 species and studied in about 500.

Learn the difference between SSSB and homosexuality.

Then we will talk about the 'logic' of comparing animal behavior to humans.

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Nah,
I just laid out the fundemental elements of marriage and advised gays can perform that trick too.
There's nothing in the Constritution about riding skateboards fast, taking a day off work to see the coast, dating more than three women in college or anal sex.
Have to call you a bold faced dumbass liar on that one...LOL!!!!
Gays can have intimate unions as well. Instead of under the cover moans of "Ohh SALLY...mixed with Ohhh Jerry!!!" you may get "Ooohhh GAAAWD TONY with a slice of YES! YES! YES George!!!!"
Gays can have unions, raiase puppy dogs and hold hands while they figure out a new diet to lose 30 pounds combined at the supermarket genius.
See....the reason I know this...is because THEY'VE ALREADY DONE IT Genius....LOL!!!
If you think gays marrying is sacrilege they hey....it's your opinion. Big wahoo. I bet there's some fool out there thinking painting an originally midnight blue 1965 Corvette fire eater red is a sacriledge as well....he too needs to get over himself and get some sleep.
LOL!!!
Lazy scoffing poorly trying to imitate reason.

Example; "I just laid out the fundemental elements of marriage..."

Really? Two people is the fundamental element of marriage? You dumbed that one down to about a thousand different relationships.
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I most certainly didn't waste my time on a worthless education like you liberals do! My BA is useful!!!
And you should be very thankful for that, because if it were not for people like me who WORK for a living! Your stupid socialism wouldn't work! Why??? Because I pay exorbitant taxes so that the dead beat cry baby liberals can have their worthless education paid for! And lets not forget about those liberals who believe that they should be paid by me / govt. just because they exist!!!
You pay "exorbitant" taxes so liberals can have their worthless education paid for?? I bet you didn't get your BA in finance.
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Read my response to Winston.
A SS couple can never achieve the complexity and diversity of 'oneness' that a marriage creates. There is no comparison with any other relationship.
Confusing opinion with facts, are you?
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Egor,
Same sex sexual behavior (SSSB) has been observed in over 1500 species and studied in about 500.
Learn the difference between SSSB and homosexuality.
Then we will talk about the 'logic' of comparing animal behavior to humans.
Oh? So now there's a difference between SSSB and homosexuality? This should be interesting....please, inform us.

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Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>Confusing opinion with facts, are you?
don't they ALWAYS?

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Voting rights and slavery were corrected by Amendment- those Amendments were ratified by States, not forced upon the States by the Federal Government. Why? Because the States are supreme in all matters which they have not given express control to the Federal Government over.
That is why the Federal Government must get permission from the States to Amend the Constitution while the States can Amend it without the consent of the Federal Government. Because they are SUPREME to the Fed.
And the 1st Amendment nor any Amendment in the Bill of Rights was ever intended by the founders to be binding on the State, this is a fabrication of the SCOTUS starting in the 1940's.
And as far as voting goes, the famed 14th Amendment which you all claim made EVERYONE equal, included gender discrimination right in it!!
The US Constitution is the law of the land. When each amendment is proposed its placed before each state and voted upon, upon ratification the Constitution is amended and then becomes law. I asked you if Utah could make Mormonism a " State Religion" and the citizens required to become members of the Mormon's. You said yes they could. Yet the first amendment says not. I asked if states where required to follow the Constitution, you said no.
Now you seem to change your point of view. See the Tenth Amendment. How can a state create a law or amend their Constitution if said law or amendment goes against the Constitution? They cant!

If the question of same sex marriage comes before SCOTUS, and SCOTUS determines that any ban against Same sex Marriage whether the ban is in a States Constitution or law is in fact Unconstitutional, then what recourse does that state have but to remove the law or amend their Constitution?

"And the 1st Amendment nor any Amendment in the Bill of Rights was ever intended by the founders to be binding on the State, this is a fabrication of the SCOTUS starting in the 1940's."

The first ten amendments to the Constitution are the " bill of rights", these amendments were ratified on December 15, 1791.

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Rights of the States under Constitution

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

This does not mean that any state can ignore the Constitution and do as they please.

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