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The days of heavily subsidized tuition for thousands of California college students who are illegal immigrants could be coming to an end.

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zeezil

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It is violation of law that illegal aliens are allowed into colleges at all. I would argue that it is in violation of the 'aiding and abetting' statute in the 1986 IRCA (Immigration Reform and Control Act).

Even if illegal aliens were to pay out of state tuition, it would not cover the entire cost of their education because of capital costs, often conveniently left out (or purposely lessened) in the total costs calculations. Therefore, taxpayer subsidization of illegal aliens would occur. Also, why would any legislator allow an illegal alien to take a seat in college from a deserving American citizen or legal immigrant?

Seats in colleges are a limited and highly coveted resource, why the hell would you put an illegal alien into one?

Also, why should we be in the business of educating and training a group of people who are illegally here and cannot legally be employed?
zeezil

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The fact is that things like college admittance and in-state tuition are just stepping stones to more things in the future. Just as giving a "free" primary and secondary education to all illegal alien kids was a stepping stone to them now demanding college admittance and in-state tuition, even at the detriment of Americans and legal residents who will lose their seat in the class in order to placate breakers of our laws.

The reality is that illegal aliens should receive no benefits, including admittance to college. Zip. Zero. Nothing. Nada.
zeezil

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The statements you hear from advocates for illegal aliens in favor of them having access to our colleges generally flow around their claim that better educated illegals will be more productive and will assimilate better into our society. This is not only fuzzy thinking, it is faulty logic. It’s very precept is that the illegal gets additional benefits to what they have already enjoyed by illegally remaining and operating here and gives a segment of them what they want – unfettered access to our higher education system (in addition to our primary education system that they have already utilized). This, of course, will be costly to the American taxpayer whether the illegal pays out of state tuition or not. It also deprives a deserving citizen or legal immigrant of the seat that the illegal would occupy. Another marketing campaign is that a child should not be penalized because of the ‘sins’ of their parents. Allowing access to higher education, however, allows the child to benefit from the fact their parents broke the law. Where does the rule of law fit into all of this? Actually, no where. The very act of allowing placement of an illegal alien into our colleges tears at the social fabric of our culture by favoritism to a group people who are out of compliance with our laws. These very same people would then be free to operate lawlessly living and working alongside of citizens and legal immigrants who have been required to abide by our laws. The dichotomy here is not only egregious, it is outrageous. It is anarchy.

Seats in colleges are a limited and highly coveted resource so why should we put an illegal alien into one?

Why should we be in the business of further educating and training a group of people who are illegally here and cannot legally be employed?
zeezil

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Illegal aliens and their advocates like to state that the college age illegals (young adults) should not be punished because it was their parents who broke the law. But, allowing these illegal alien young adults to attend college and remain in the U.S. rewards them for their parents breaking the law. Another claim you often hear is that prohibiting illegal aliens from attending college is “inhumane”. This argument presumes that obtaining a taxpayer-subsidized college degree is a basic human right. Basic human rights, however, are universal and unchanging and the need or desire for a college degree is neither. This is not to say that obtaining a college education is not important. But is it more important than the rule of law, which illegal immigration undermines, not to mention the will of the people?
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How would you feel if your son or daughter's seat in college was taken by an illegal alien?

How would your son or daughter feel if their seat in college was taken by an illegal alien?

How do you feel knowing that CA will allow illegal aliens to attend college with taxpayer resources used even if they are required to pay out of state tuition because of the capital costs involved?

How do you feel giving access to our institutions of higher learning to illegal aliens for further education and training to a group of people who are not even able to work in America legally?
zeezil

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The rule of law is one prime determining factor that differentiates first world and third world countries. It mandates that illegal behavior be punished and never rewarded. Granting benefits, such as entry into our colleges to those in our country illegally offends this principle. Worse, it perverts the law by punishing those who have or are in the process of entering legally and discriminates against citizens who would be negatively affected. Even if I agreed (which I don't) that illegals should be allowed to attend our colleges, who would be willing to state unequivocally that not one single tax dollar would be used and not one single citizen or LEGAL immigrant would be ever denied admittance because of space availability?
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Finally some is showing some Chutzpah and shoving it up the illegal's ass
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I can't begin to even put into words how sad I am to see the education of illegal aliens take a back seat to the education of Americans!

The unmitigated gall.
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Milt Smith

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Illegal immigrants shouldn't have any opportunities!!! The only opportunity should be a free deportation!!!
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Finally someone has taken a realistic and nessary step to take some of the burdon off the taxpayer. Now, deport the ILLEGALS and finish the job!!
Fred

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It should read court ruling increases Americans opportunities for college!
Lone Wolf

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Let's say vamanos illegals back to your mothership.
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This headline is wrong, illegal aliens from Mexican can go to college for free in Mexico, they have plenty of education opportunities there, their opportunities are not "diminshed".
Too little to late

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This is only ONE COURT HEARING THAT PASSED!
You can bet that the ACLU and SOUTHERN LAW CENTER and all the other immigrant rights groups will take this to the supreme court.
Look across our country, everytime a city takes back an inch from the illegals here comes these groups to change things!
We have won and lost so many times in california in our citys to the illegal immigrant activist it isnt funny anymore!
If you really want to stop this it has to be done at the voting booth!
You must know who you are voting into you assembly and senate here in California or anywhere else.
They have money that they lift eachother into our local county and state seats and they go up from there.
They will go through any amount of money and people to get the job done.
Be awate, this is very serious in California.
Look at what is happening in ALL OUR LOCAL ELECTIONS!
The Demo seats ARE OPEN BORDER ACTIVIST!
Why did Neil Soto hold that assembly seat for two years??
She held it until she could get Mayor Torres better known as a Mayor
Be careful who you vote for.
PSL

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College tuition for illegals?????
Dumbass government needs to be
deporting them NOT worrying about
their educations.
All Americans, use you imagination,
can you even guess at the amount of
moneys spent on illegals and their children
in the past 40 years?
All to the detriment OF EVERY SINGLE U.S.
CITIZEN!!!

Since: Jun 08

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I find it hard to believe we even have to have this conversation. ILLLEGAL is ILLEGAL by it's very difinition. They are breaking the law. I can't think of any other law that we reward the violator for breaking. It is a slap in the face of every taxpaying citizen and Legal Alien. And the very action of condoning it makes a criminal of everyone of us by aiding and abetting someone in the commission of a crime. I for one resent being dragged into participating.
Brittanicus

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One small win for American taxpayers and the US Constitution. A loss for the open-border globalists, and the corporate and business opportunists zealots. A little upheaval for the pro-illegal immigrant and guest worker politicians. A educational win for American citizen students and legal residents, who had been shoved to the back of the line. This was a disgusting and disturbing issue, when Americans should have first preference in all things.

THE FEDERAL SAVE ACT (H.R.4088) ENFORCEMENT ONLY LAW AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!

LAST CHANCE FOR AMERICA, BEFORE WE ARE OVERRUN.!

WE ARE HEADING FOR OVERPOPULATION! No help from Obama or McCain?

THE MAJORITY OF DEMOCRATS ARE HOLDING UP THIS IMMIGRATION LAW. IT WILL BUILD A TWO-TIER FENCE AS ORIGINALLY FUNDED. MANDATORY ENFORCEMENT AT THE EMPLOYER LEVEL. NO MORE CHAIN MIGRATION. WE ALREADY HAVE 27 GUEST WORKER PROGRAMS, NO MORE JOBS, ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONALS WILL LEAVE & GO HOME. THIS IS CALLED ATTRITION! READ THIS POTENTIAL LAW at http://www.numbersusa.com/PDFs/SAVEActSBS.pdf

JOIN 756.000 other American patriots at www.numbersusa.com , to stop the travesty of our immigration laws. Learn about Immigration governmental corruption at www.judicialwatch.org DEMAND YOUR DEMOCRATS SENATORS & CONGRESSMAN VOTE FOR THE FEDERAL SAVE ACT!
CITIZEN

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Who writes these headlines? Perhaps someone needs to check on their legal status.

The illegals have every opportunity to attend college, in the country they came from!!!

Why should we support them going to college here if they are illegal and they can't even get a job legally when they graduate? We should put an end to this farce as they try to enter kindergarten, illegally! I really think they need to show proof of citizenship before entering our public school system.
Jenny

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Jamiel Shaw was deprived of a college education, as well as the rest of his life. His little brother has had his much loved older brother taken from him. His parents lost their first child, and his mother, who was serving her country in Iraq, protecting the lives of Iraqis, aside from the loss of her first child, had her trust betrayed. All because of the sanctuary city policies of the city of Los Angeles and it's corrupt government officials.

What about the poor citizen children who are deprived of even a decent basic education, because city and state money is wasted on ESL, no arts and music education, fewer text books, less teachers, over crowded, violent and dangerous classrooms because of illegals swelling the classrooms. I wonder why the colleges and universities do not care about the futures of American citizen children?
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I think Hector say it all :
"I'm struggling to pay for everything as it is," said Hector Gonzalez, a 23-year-old Cal Poly Pomona student who entered the country illegally with his parents when he was 3. "If they were to triple or even double the tuition, it would pretty much make it impossible for me to continue my education."
The man has been an Adult for over 5 years- Has he tried to become an American Citizen.
Based upon the article - NO. Enough said...
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