Russian FM: Threats of Iran sanctions won't work

Two years ago, the U.S. had 110 nuclear facilities. Iran had two: Natanz and Buscher. Exactly who is guilty of nuclear power?

If the U.S. economically and politically sanction Iran, they can destroy their economy. If they accuse Iran of Nuclear Warfare they can disrepute Mohhamud and Iran. This is an easy method to wipe out Islam and replace it with what not Iraqi Freedom this time but Iranian Freed. Yeeah, U.S. that is all Iran needs is to freed from their own beliefs of Islam. Islam is beautiful. The whole purpose of Iraqi Freedom was to wipe out Islam and replace it with an American form of democracy? Does this sound familiar to you Russia? Does this sound familiar to you Japan? Does this sound familiar to you Iran? Does this sound familiar to you Pakistan and Afghanistan?

No, something needs to be done. Iran is just as much, in many ways more so, a threat to Russia than to Europe, let alone North America. Those shehab missiles can't hit Washington, DC; they can reach Moscow though (albeit Moscow has a belt of counter missiles around her to knock em down before they can do any real harm in such an event, but, still... the Ayatollah is nuts, and Iran is dangerous, who's to say they won't try to test those counter measures of ours...)

Stephany McDowell wrote:

Two years ago, the U.S. had 110 nuclear facilities. Iran had two: Natanz and Buscher. Exactly who is guilty of nuclear power?

The issue is not one of nuclear power generation. The issue is nuclear weapons in the hands of a nation that has threatened to wipe a neighbor from the mar. You want to defend the mullahs of Iran, go for it. I rather doubt Russia would b pleased with Iran having nukes as the inevitable result of that would be a major war right on their border.

Stephany McDowell wrote:

If the U.S. economically and politically sanction Iran, they can destroy their economy. If they accuse Iran of Nuclear Warfare they can disrepute Mohhamud and Iran. This is an easy method to wipe out Islam and replace it with what not Iraqi Freedom this time but Iranian Freed. Yeeah, U.S. that is all Iran needs is to freed from their own beliefs of Islam. Islam is beautiful. The whole purpose of Iraqi Freedom was to wipe out Islam and replace it with an American form of democracy? Does this sound familiar to you Russia? Does this sound familiar to you Japan? Does this sound familiar to you Iran? Does this sound familiar to you Pakistan and Afghanistan?

Islamism is the devil, and you are its spokes person. Islam in practice is beautiful? Will you defend the Taliban and its treatment of women as beautiful?

Iran is just as much, in many ways more so, a threat to Russia than to Europe, let alone North America. Those shehab missiles can't hit Washington, DC; they can reach Moscow though (albeit Moscow has a belt of counter missiles around her to knock em down before they can do any harm in such an event, but, still... the Ayatollah is nuts, and Iran is dangerous)

The real Islamic threat is Saudia Arabia, not Iran

Ronald Dumbsfeld wrote:

The real Islamic threat is Saudia Arabia, not Iran

I think not. The KSA has put away dozens of Islamists...far way and six feet down. The religious police are paid by the government, and the king has an entire elite military at his disposal, the SANG. The Saudi hierarchy is well educated, bright, and on top of things. That is not to say there are not Saudis who are nut-case Islamists, but not enough to worry much about. IMHO.

Kenhunt wrote:

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I rather doubt Russia would b pleased with Iran having nukes as the inevitable result of that would be a major war right on their border.

In this light, why is it such an issue for the US that Iran allegedly acquires nuclear capacity, when neither Russia, nor Europe make that a priority in their defense or their foreign policy?

America is the least likely target of a hypothetical Iranian nuclear missile: Russia is next door, and Europe within easy reach.

Yet, neither Russia, nor Europe have shown any worries about it, and none of them have been enthusiast about the US anti-missile shield.

Kenhunt wrote:

<quoted text>I think not. The KSA has put away dozens of Islamists...far way and six feet down. The religious police are paid by the government, and the king has an entire elite military at his disposal, the SANG. The Saudi hierarchy is well educated, bright, and on top of things. That is not to say there are not Saudis who are nut-case Islamists, but not enough to worry much about. IMHO.

Who do you think is bankrolling those brutal Chechen Islamists? Certainly, it isn't Shia Iran.

Ronald Dumbsfeld wrote:

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Who do you think is bankrolling those brutal Chechen Islamists? Certainly, it isn't Shia Iran.

Not the actual Saudi monarchy it seems, by the myriad of princes that benefit from the huge wealth generated by oil have financed the islamist jihad over the years.

Bin Laden himself was a Saudi businessman who received support from other rich Saudi when he launched his anti-Western crusade and created Al Qaeda.

For years, money has been pouring out of the KSA to finance Al Qeda operations. It's only lately that apparently the money has dried up - if we are to believe the US intelligence.

I wouldn't be so surprised either if the monarchy was playing both sides and had a hand in Al Qaeda. Some of the features of Al Qaeda resemble so much Saudi Wahabite culture. Al Qaeda could be seen as a medium for the KSA to extend its footprint in the region without showing its cards at any time, nor openly confronting the West.

Ronald Dumbsfeld wrote:

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Who do you think is bankrolling those brutal Chechen Islamists? Certainly, it isn't Shia Iran.

I would never even pretend to understand all the various factions of Islam, from state, sect, tribe, war lord, potentate, and family! I would point out that Iran is Persian, not Arab, and unlikely to have close Arab links. The Chechens may be brutal, as they were in Beslan, but brutality certainly is not unique to Chechean Muslims. It could be any Islamist from that region. Maybe you know the answer to your own question?

Robespierre wrote:

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In this light, why is it such an issue for the US that Iran allegedly acquires nuclear capacity, when neither Russia, nor Europe make that a priority in their defense or their foreign policy?
America is the least likely target of a hypothetical Iranian nuclear missile: Russia is next door, and Europe within easy reach.
Yet, neither Russia, nor Europe have shown any worries about it, and none of them have been enthusiast about the US anti-missile shield.

A nuclear Iran would be attacked by Israel, possibly with nuclear weapons. Once so attacked, Iran, if it were not reduced to glowing rubble, would attack any Western target, maybe you. As a minimum it would be a long time, if ever, before normal commerce in the oil industry would resume. And, yes, Kiss my Ass.

Kenhunt wrote:

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A nuclear Iran would be attacked by Israel, possibly with nuclear weapons. Once so attacked, Iran, if it were not reduced to glowing rubble, would attack any Western target, maybe you. As a minimum it would be a long time, if ever, before normal commerce in the oil industry would resume. And, yes, Kiss my Ass.

So, you demonstrate here that it's in fact Israel that could be the initiator of a nuclear war, and not Iran at all.

In fact, there is nothing to stop Israel to launch a nuclear attack now. Maybe the US should send some inspectors to visit Israel nuclear capacity and take sanctions against it too?

If ever Iran obtain the nuclear capability, which I seriously doubt they are really interested, it will only use it to defend itself, against an invasion or a nuclear attack: even the Mullahs aren't mad enough to think they would get away with it.

So, for them to obtain a defense weapon cancelling their opponents' superior arsenal (up to a point) is quite legitimate.

And by the way, Kiss my Arse too!!

Kenhunt wrote:

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A nuclear Iran would be attacked by Israel, possibly with nuclear weapons. Once so attacked, Iran,...

It's also quite indicative of the American mindset that, as soon as one speaks about Iran, you feel the need to mention Israel.
I mentioned Russia and Europe, but you Yanks are worried about Israel!!

I don't think many Europeans or Russians worry too much about the fate of Israel: they are doing a great job hasting their own fatal destiny it seems!!

It's quite symptomatic of the way you see the world: America and Israel like siamese twins help at the hip!! The zionist propaganda surely worked on you Kenhunt!!

And you wonder why America is resented? You can Kiss my Arse again!

The eunuch Robes is delusional. He actually thinks that if Iran got nukes, they'd just sit on them, and not be mad enough to use them! LOL! They might have to struggle with which target to hit, Tel Aviv, New York, London, or Berlin, but they would use them directly, or lose one and it would be used indirectly.

I think nukes have kept Israel from another invasion, but I'd buy into their dismantling them in exchange for an absolute guarantee from Russia of its military interventionalong with the USA on behalf of Israel if it is again invaded.

Yes, when one thinks of Iran, one thinks of radical Islam and of Israel. Only someone who is so delusional as to see Iran as not intent on wiping Israel off the map would not do likewise. Particularly one immersed in Islamist propaganda. And I do not wonder why America is resented, particularly not by you. Kiss my ass.

Kenhunt wrote:

The eunuch Robes is delusional. He actually thinks that if Iran got nukes, they'd just sit on them, and not be mad enough to use them! LOL! They might have to struggle with which target to hit, Tel Aviv, New York, London, or Berlin, but they would use them directly, or lose one and it would be used indirectly.
I think nukes have kept Israel from another invasion, but I'd buy into their dismantling them in exchange for an absolute guarantee from Russia of its military interventionalong with the USA on behalf of Israel if it is again invaded.
Yes, when one thinks of Iran, one thinks of radical Islam and of Israel. Only someone who is so delusional as to see Iran as not intent on wiping Israel off the map would not do likewise. Particularly one immersed in Islamist propaganda. And I do not wonder why America is resented, particularly not by you. Kiss my ass.

- For a relatively small country like Iran, a nuclear bomb can only be a deterrent, and never an attack weapon. Why? Because retaliation in kind would obliterate the country.
But this is the deterrent that the zionists want to deny to Iran.

- Iran has no ambition to attack Russia or Europe. The only countries it has problem with are the ones that have threatened or attacked it in the past. Their enemies Israel and America. It wish to be protected from them - a legitimate aim.

- Why would Russia fight to protect Israel? Why Rusia should be bothered with Israel? A country that has obviously always favoured the USA and opposed Russia's friends in the region.

- Isreal hasn't been invaded, but in the opposite has invaded neighbouring countries (contrary to international laws) and seized territories in the process. Israel itself was created by appropriation of Palestinian land!!

- One would be delusional for not seeing behind all the rethoric that preparations are in place for an attack against Iran. The peaceful nuclear research conducted by Iran will give the zionists the excuse to act before long. Just like for the WMDs in Iraq, the truth should not stand in the way of a good war for America.

- America and Israel are just conducting a scaremongering campain to get world public opinion behind them, so that they can, once again, use a sledgehammer to crack a wallnut! Kiss my Arse !!!

Robespierre wrote:

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- For a relatively small country like Iran, a nuclear bomb can only be a deterrent, and never an attack weapon. Why? Because retaliation in kind would obliterate the country.
Their enemies Israel and America. It wish to be protected from them - a legitimate aim.
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- Isreal hasn't been invaded,
- preparations are in place for an attack against Iran. The peaceful nuclear research conducted by Iran will give the zionists the excuse to act before long.

- America and Israel are just conducting a scaremongering campain Kiss my Arse !!!

Iran has 75 million people, ten times that of Israel, and is 17th most populous country on this planet. It is not small, not even relatively.

An Iranian nuke will not deter an attack; it will invite one. It will guarantee that when attacked there will be nothing left of Iran to retaliate with. If the USA wanted to destroy Iran, it could do so anytime. Recall that our new President extended his hand and had it slapped away.

Israel has been invaded.

To destroy Israel, Iran will accept whatever comes upon them afterwards because they believe it is Allah's will.

Of course such plans are in place. What would you do if a country said yours should be wiped off the map and the UN's head of the IAEA said that country now could become nuclear capable?

If you want to believe Iran is benign, go for it, you foolish pigdog. Kiss my ass.

Kenhunt wrote:

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Israel has been invaded.

Apart from stealing the land from the Palestinians, Israel has successively invaded Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon - all its neighbours!!

Israel is still occupying part of Jordan (the West Bank) and of Syria (the Golan Heights), on top of regular incursions in Lebanon.

This is the country the USA will go to war for!!

Kenhunt wrote:

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To destroy Israel, Iran will accept whatever comes upon them afterwards because they believe it is Allah's will.
Of course such plans are in place. What would you do if a country said yours should be wiped off the map and the UN's head of the IAEA said that country now could become nuclear capable?

Of course the zionists will cling to that stupid notion that all muslims want to die in martyrdom, since it suits their agenda and give them the perfect excuse to attack Iran.

Unless you know better, Iran has never attacked, invaded or occupied a country in modern times. It has, however, been attacked, bombed and partially occupied by forces supported by the West.

Amhnedijad what's-his-name may have vented his frustration in making threats regarding Israel, but that is just to echo the feelings in the region. Furthermore, there is no proof than Iran wants to develop a nuclear weapon, only that it wants to enrich its own nuclear fuel.

Strange that the US, that usually makes the most noise, haven't objected when India and Pakistan acquired nuclear capability. What does that say about its objectivity: after all the 2 contries are in a semi-permanent state of war, one with an unstable government and .... Muslim to boot!!

Also, why haven't the USA objected to Israel developing its own nuclear capability? It's an open secret that Israel has the bomb now, probably with US help too, but that doesn't seem to ring any alarm bells in Washington it seems.

Since you insist in using that form of greetings: Kiss my Arse too, Yankee pig!!