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#1 May 5, 2012
Because it follows the teachings of the Bible.
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#2 May 5, 2012
Sunrise77 wrote:
Because it follows the teachings of the Bible.
Please notice that it is NOT about the bible, it is all about keeping the 10 commandments and obeying the words of Jesus ONLY!(Matt. 19 and Rev. 12:17)

The words of Paul, Luke and Hebrews can't be trusted to be the real truth. The Adventists are the ONLY ones who fit the discription of the Ten Virgins and are now the ones spiritually sleeping.

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#3 May 5, 2012
If can't trust a part of the Bible how can you trust any of the Bible? If you (Rockroller) throw out part of the Bible then what is your basis of belief?

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#4 May 5, 2012
The Seventh-day Adventist church is a sister to fallen Babylon. Seventh-day Adventists profess to follow Scripture but they lie.
everythingimportant.org/gospel/7faces.htm
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#5 May 5, 2012
Sunrise77 wrote:
If can't trust a part of the Bible how can you trust any of the Bible? If you (Rockroller) throw out part of the Bible then what is your basis of belief?
The prophecy about the wheat and tares in Matt. 13 prove two things. 1) That Jesus knew about Paul planting the tares in the same place (NT) where His words would be found (John 14:26 and 17:17-21) and 2) that when the bond servants discovered the difference between the words of Jesus and Paul's,(at the time of the end only) that we are now living in the last generation of this world's history.

If Paul's words were NOT in the bible, then what Jesus prophesied about here would have been a lie--but Jesus did not lie! Jesus allowed Satan access to the bible just as He allowed access to the Garden of Eden and Job. Both, the words of truth, being the words of Jesus given to hus by ONLY His eyewitnesses, AND the words of Satan which caused many (MANY) to be deceived, can be found in the bible. It's your choice to believe in truth or fiction.

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#6 May 5, 2012
The Seventh-day Adventist churhc is about the Bible (to the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to that word, it is because there is no light in them [Isaiah 8:20]). Yes keeping the 10 Commandments is essential to Seventh-day Adventists, but isn't it essential to the whole rest of the Bible, as well? You may think that "obeying the words of Jesus ONLY" (as you said) is considered a part of Adventist dogmatics, but it is not (maybe I misunderstood you), ALL of scripture is essential, because "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" etc.

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#7 May 5, 2012
Shubee wrote:
The Seventh-day Adventist church is a sister to fallen Babylon. Seventh-day Adventists profess to follow Scripture but they lie.
everythingimportant.org/gospel/7faces.htm
In what ways do we lie when we say that we follow Scripture?

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#8 May 5, 2012
Rockroller wrote:
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The prophecy about the wheat and tares in Matt. 13 prove two things. 1) That Jesus knew about Paul planting the tares in the same place (NT) where His words would be found (John 14:26 and 17:17-21) and 2) that when the bond servants discovered the difference between the words of Jesus and Paul's,(at the time of the end only) that we are now living in the last generation of this world's history.
If Paul's words were NOT in the bible, then what Jesus prophesied about here would have been a lie--but Jesus did not lie! Jesus allowed Satan access to the bible just as He allowed access to the Garden of Eden and Job. Both, the words of truth, being the words of Jesus given to hus by ONLY His eyewitnesses, AND the words of Satan which caused many (MANY) to be deceived, can be found in the bible. It's your choice to believe in truth or fiction.
What basis do you have for this statement? You still haven't answered my first question.
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#9 May 5, 2012
Sunrise77 wrote:
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What basis do you have for this statement? You still haven't answered my first question.
I did but you just didn't understand. Also, what Paul wrote in 2Tim 3:16 was NOT abaout the whole bible as proven by the verse above it (verse 15) where you find that ONLY the "law and the prophts wer known as "Scripture" at that time.

NO WHERE will you ever find that the bible that we have today is the inspired word(s) of God. You are merely spitting into the wind attempting to do so. Constatine was an evil Pagan man who was the one who gave us the bible we now have. God was NOT in the process of choosing what went in or what was left out. God do your own research and you will see what I mean.

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#10 May 5, 2012
Shubee wrote:
The Seventh-day Adventist church is a sister to fallen Babylon. Seventh-day Adventists profess to follow Scripture but they lie.
everythingimportant.org/gospel/7faces.htm
Since the site you give uses Ellen White to say that the Seventh-day Adventist church has become Babylon, I'll use Ellen White to prove you otherwise she says “If you are teaching that the Seventh-day Adventist Church is Babylon, you are wrong. God has not given you any such message to bear.” Review and Herald, Sept. 12, 1893

"We should remember that the church, enfeebled and defective though it be, is the only object on earth on which Christ bestows His supreme regard." —Manuscript 155, 1902

I'm not sure if you're branch davidian or some other offshoot, but I hope that I've shown that the evidence points to the contrary of the assertions, aforementioned, against the Adventist church.

I would like to stick with the Bible and its relation with the doctrines openly espoused by the Seventh-day Adventist church organisation. I don't think any church or even any person on this earth is perfect, if anyone claims otherwise (that they're perfect) scripture states the contrary.

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#11 May 5, 2012
You all. I'm going to take a break from this discussion for a while. I'll be back.

God bless.

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#12 May 5, 2012
Rockroller wrote:
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I did but you just didn't understand. Also, what Paul wrote in 2Tim 3:16 was NOT abaout the whole bible as proven by the verse above it (verse 15) where you find that ONLY the "law and the prophts wer known as "Scripture" at that time.
NO WHERE will you ever find that the bible that we have today is the inspired word(s) of God. You are merely spitting into the wind attempting to do so. Constatine was an evil Pagan man who was the one who gave us the bible we now have. God was NOT in the process of choosing what went in or what was left out. God do your own research and you will see what I mean.
The Bible, man, the Bible... I think Peter somewhere classed Paul's writings with other scripture.
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#13 May 5, 2012
Sunrise77 wrote:
You all. I'm going to take a break from this discussion for a while. I'll be back.
God bless.
When you come back, read REv. 14:5 and you will see that the bondservants (144,000) will be perfect as they are blameless. So Sunrise, be still and listen (read the words of Jesus first) IF you really want to know the truth. Try it and see what happens!

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#14 May 5, 2012
I'm afraid that you're setting yourself up as a judge of what's inspired and what's not, beware O man, the ground on which you stand is holy ground. You're basically setting yourself above God, saying "He said this, but not that."
A Voice In The Wilderness

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#15 May 5, 2012
Sunrise77 wrote:
I'm afraid that you're setting yourself up as a judge of what's inspired and what's not, beware O man, the ground on which you stand is holy ground. You're basically setting yourself above God, saying "He said this, but not that."
What you say concerning the Word of God is correct. All 66 books of the Bible are equally inspired and are in perfect harmony with one another. To reject one is to reject the whole and the One who inspired holy men to write it.

Be careful with all on this forum friend. Sooner or later you will realize that there are more Jesuits here than genuine God-fearing believers.

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#16 May 5, 2012
Sunrise77 wrote:
In what ways do we lie when we say that we follow Scripture?
Seventh-day Adventists lie about their supposed righteousness precisely as the Pharisees did and as the Laodiceans did.

Revelation 3
17 Because you say,‘I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing’—and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked— 18 I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent.
everythingimportant.org/SDA/viewtopic.php...

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#17 May 5, 2012
Sunrise77 wrote:
Since the site you give uses Ellen White to say that the Seventh-day Adventist church has become Babylon,
You are wrong. The site listed didn't say that. However, EGW said elsewhere that "We must as a people arouse and cleanse the camp of Israel.... We are in danger of becoming a sister to fallen Babylon, of allowing our churches to become corrupted, and filled with every foul spirit, a cage for every unclean and hateful bird; and will we be clear unless we make decided movements to cure the existing evil?" 21MR 380.

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#18 May 5, 2012
Sunrise77 wrote:
In what ways do we lie when we say that we follow Scripture?
Unquestionably, you lied about everythingimportant.org/gospel/7faces.htm when you said, "the site you give uses Ellen White to say that the Seventh-day Adventist church has become Babylon".
humblepie

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#19 May 5, 2012
A Voice In The Wilderness wrote:
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What you say concerning the Word of God is correct. All 66 books of the Bible are equally inspired and are in perfect harmony with one another. To reject one is to reject the whole and the One who inspired holy men to write it.
Be careful with all on this forum friend. Sooner or later you will realize that there are more Jesuits here than genuine God-fearing believers.
I once again find my self agreeing totally with you
(you must have all my hats by now)

That being said I will Say Some Bibles appear to be better than Others,
I would HATE to have a New World Translation with its missing 88 Verses about Christ's Divinity.
(No wonder The JW's think Christ was just a Robot or something)
Or an NIV which which splits verses in half, throwing out the 1 of the halves completely

I stick with My Grandpas KJV tis sweet to listen to also
A Voice In The Wilderness

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#20 May 5, 2012
humblepie wrote:
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I once again find my self agreeing totally with you
(you must have all my hats by now)
That being said I will Say Some Bibles appear to be better than Others,
I would HATE to have a New World Translation with its missing 88 Verses about Christ's Divinity.
(No wonder The JW's think Christ was just a Robot or something)
Or an NIV which which splits verses in half, throwing out the 1 of the halves completely
I stick with My Grandpas KJV tis sweet to listen to also
I also. Personally I find the words of the KJV to be very peculiar in their format. They stand out from the common language of today and thus become engraved in the mind and heart with special significance.

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