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SGT

Orient, ME

#1 Mar 13, 2012

The new world order is important to understand the Bible's endtime events as the final head of Rome's empire

To properly identify the new world order it is first important to identify the old world order.

In most every town there is a Catholic Church; a few hundred years ago these churches were--in the old world--associated with the state. Some of the churches and cathedrals even had dungeons in them. This was the old world order.

Also found in most towns is the Freemasons' lodge (or temple). You may go down and knock on their door just as you would the Catholic Church.

The first of these Freemason lodges is said to have formed in London, 1717, although the do have roots earlier than this. The mother lodge was officially formed in 1717 London.

These Freemasons are quick to claim credit for the American Revolution, 1775, and point out George Washington and other founders of the federal district were Freemasons. This basic info about Freemasonry is found throughout history books about Washington DC..........

"The George Washington University, like much of Washington, D.C., traces many of its origins back to the Freemasons. The Bible that the presidents of the university use to swear an oath on upon inauguration is the Bible of Freemason George Washington. Freemasonry symbols are prominently displayed throughout the campus including the foundation stones of many of the university buildings."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washingto...

This was the beginning of the fledgling new world order, the declaration of which is on the back of the US dollar in Latin with Roman numeral 1776.

DANNO

London, UK

#2 Mar 13, 2012
SGT
Wot is the NEW COVENANT and wot does it mean to you?

Dan
SGT

Orient, ME

#3 Mar 13, 2012

The NWO masonic revolution next went into France (1789) then across Europe (1848)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_of_1...

Since that time they have swept across the world founding the United Nations with 190+ member states.

E.g.

sea beast - 1260 holy roman empire

earth beast - NWO

SGT

Orient, ME

#4 Mar 13, 2012

The two horns on this BEAST-kingdom in 1798 following the 1260 were the nations: USA & France.

DANNO

London, UK

#5 Mar 13, 2012
SGT wrote:
The two horns on this BEAST-kingdom in 1798 following the 1260 were the nations: USA & France.
SGT
You have NO idea what the NEW COVENANT is and wot it mean to you?

Dan
SamBee

Orlando, FL

#6 Mar 14, 2012
SGT wrote:
The new world order is important to understand the Bible's endtime events as the final head of Rome's empire
To properly identify the new world order it is first important to identify the old world order.
In most every town there is a Catholic Church; a few hundred years ago these churches were--in the old world--associated with the state. Some of the churches and cathedrals even had dungeons in them. This was the old world order.
Also found in most towns is the Freemasons' lodge (or temple). You may go down and knock on their door just as you would the Catholic Church.
The first of these Freemason lodges is said to have formed in London, 1717, although the do have roots earlier than this. The mother lodge was officially formed in 1717 London.
These Freemasons are quick to claim credit for the American Revolution, 1775, and point out George Washington and other founders of the federal district were Freemasons. This basic info about Freemasonry is found throughout history books about Washington DC..........
"The George Washington University, like much of Washington, D.C., traces many of its origins back to the Freemasons. The Bible that the presidents of the university use to swear an oath on upon inauguration is the Bible of Freemason George Washington. Freemasonry symbols are prominently displayed throughout the campus including the foundation stones of many of the university buildings."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washingto...
This was the beginning of the fledgling new world order, the declaration of which is on the back of the US dollar in Latin with Roman numeral 1776.
Shalum,

Albert Pike a 33rd degree Mason created the concept for the Three World Wars.
SGT

Normandy, TN

#7 Mar 14, 2012
SamBee wrote:
Shalum,
Albert Pike a 33rd degree Mason created the concept for the Three World Wars.

I'v seen this around
SGT

Normandy, TN

#8 Mar 14, 2012

To further biblically ID the NWO-Earth Beast as the 8th and final head of Rome's empire (Rev.17:10,11) it is important to understand the relation between Rev chapters 11, 13 & 17. The earth beast arises after the 1260, Rev 13. The beast arises from the pit after the 1260 in chapter 11. This beast from the pit is found in chapter 17 as the 8th head.

E.g.

7th head - 1260 holy roman empire

8th head - NWO

The seven headed beast is found earlier in Rev 13 where the babylonian symbolism comes from Daniel 7 (count the heads--total seven)

Babylon Empire--first head (1)

Med-Persian Empire-second head (2)

Greek Empire--four heads (3,4,5,6)

Roman Empire--seventh head (7)

Then we are told there will be an 8th head from the 7th (Rev 17:11) The 8th head arises after 1260.

SamBee

Orlando, FL

#9 Mar 14, 2012
SGT wrote:
To further biblically ID the NWO-Earth Beast as the 8th and final head of Rome's empire (Rev.17:10,11) it is important to understand the relation between Rev chapters 11, 13 & 17. The earth beast arises after the 1260, Rev 13. The beast arises from the pit after the 1260 in chapter 11. This beast from the pit is found in chapter 17 as the 8th head.
E.g.
7th head - 1260 holy roman empire
8th head - NWO
The seven headed beast is found earlier in Rev 13 where the babylonian symbolism comes from Daniel 7 (count the heads--total seven)
Babylon Empire--first head (1)
Med-Persian Empire-second head (2)
Greek Empire--four heads (3,4,5,6)
Roman Empire--seventh head (7)
Then we are told there will be an 8th head from the 7th (Rev 17:11) The 8th head arises after 1260.
After the 3 1/2 yrs Yahusha retruns Matthew 24:29-30
SGT

Normandy, TN

#10 Mar 14, 2012

The 1260 holy roman emjpire received the "wound" by the NWO in 1798. The HRE has since been dissolved and will never come back. Since 1798 the NWO-8th head has been ruling Rome's empire.

The "wound" to the 1260 HRE was very monumental and quite a bit of Bible has been devoted to it. It was the the 1260 HRE that persecuted God's people all those years. This is why we find more detail of the fall of the HRE by the 8th head-NWO in Rev 17 & 18.

17:16 And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. For God has put in their hearts to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

The HRE or Papal States were dissolved in 1870. Thus the NWO had ten nations in 1870.

Then Rev 18 goes on to describe the downfall of the HRE monarchies and merchant and commerce. This is not all a future event rather fulfilled at that time.

SamBee

Orlando, FL

#11 Mar 14, 2012
SGT wrote:
The 1260 holy roman emjpire received the "wound" by the NWO in 1798. The HRE has since been dissolved and will never come back. Since 1798 the NWO-8th head has been ruling Rome's empire.
The "wound" to the 1260 HRE was very monumental and quite a bit of Bible has been devoted to it. It was the the 1260 HRE that persecuted God's people all those years. This is why we find more detail of the fall of the HRE by the 8th head-NWO in Rev 17 & 18.
17:16 And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. For God has put in their hearts to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
The HRE or Papal States were dissolved in 1870. Thus the NWO had ten nations in 1870.
Then Rev 18 goes on to describe the downfall of the HRE monarchies and merchant and commerce. This is not all a future event rather fulfilled at that time.
Shalum,

Check out this...

World History according to the Bible p1 - Bro. Marlon

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Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#12 Mar 16, 2012
The last Beast known in Revelation as "Babylon the Harlot" is the NWO Zionist movement. This Beast existed before John under Salomon Kingdom of perversion. By the time John wrote Revelations the beast was no more but he said it was coming again. Obviously Catholic Rome wasn't there before Jonh.

Rev 17:8

" The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction."
SGT

Scranton, PA

#13 Mar 16, 2012

Mack there simply is no NWO "zionist" movement. Zionism is a theology or ideology to support the state of Israel, the end, has nothing to do with world gov't.

World gov't today is ran by the Freemason's NWO world revolution since 1776 as declared on the back of the US dollar. Freemasonry was founded by the Templars & Jesuits; the Jesuits themselves founded by crusading military knights--being military knights in a priest robe.

Mystery Babylon Mother of Harlots has to be a false Christian church as the bride of Christ is the true church.

This Roman Church and beast she rides did not have to exist in the day John received the prophecy from Jesus.

The 8th head of the beast or beast from the abyss is found earlier in Rev 11 following the 1260 years thus rising in 1798 at the time of France with two horns (Rev 13) the NWO.

Rome is the 4th and final beast of Daniel 2 & 7, not Israel, Jews or Zionism. The beast has seven heads alreads explained earlier.

Rev 17 is post 1260 or 1798 not written according to John's day. John's day was the first seal white horse.

There's a great deal of protocol propaganda to blame this world revolution on the very jews they try and exterminate, but this is just.. propaganda. The Freemasons & Jesuits are the Vatican's NWO.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#14 Mar 17, 2012
SGT wrote:
Mack there simply is no NWO "zionist" movement. Zionism is a theology or ideology to support the state of Israel, the end, has nothing to do with world gov't.
World gov't today is ran by the Freemason's NWO world revolution since 1776 as declared on the back of the US dollar. Freemasonry was founded by the Templars & Jesuits; the Jesuits themselves founded by crusading military knights--being military knights in a priest robe.
Mystery Babylon Mother of Harlots has to be a false Christian church as the bride of Christ is the true church.
This Roman Church and beast she rides did not have to exist in the day John received the prophecy from Jesus.
The 8th head of the beast or beast from the abyss is found earlier in Rev 11 following the 1260 years thus rising in 1798 at the time of France with two horns (Rev 13) the NWO.
Rome is the 4th and final beast of Daniel 2 & 7, not Israel, Jews or Zionism. The beast has seven heads alreads explained earlier.
Rev 17 is post 1260 or 1798 not written according to John's day. John's day was the first seal white horse.
There's a great deal of protocol propaganda to blame this world revolution on the very jews they try and exterminate, but this is just.. propaganda. The Freemasons & Jesuits are the Vatican's NWO.
Forget about the Vatican. It is not Biblical. The Biblical prostitute in the Bible is always been Israel not the Vatican. The 1798 date means that you still have adventism running through you blood. You have to flush it out.
SGT

Scranton, PA

#15 Apr 14, 2012

Setting EGW aside.

Since there is no proof Ellen White is a prophet of God there is no grounds to uphold the "spirit of prophecy" attributed to the writings attributed to Ellen White.

EGW also did not found the current views or beliefs of SDA. Most of the wonderful Bible truths found in SDA came from various other Bible expounders. Then sometimes Ellen would say: "thus says the lord this is truth".

Thus there is no need for these extra-biblical writings be quoted as scripture or they be called a "spirit of prophecy". Further the deification of Ellen White be reduced to that of any other Bible commentator, subject to errors.

After this is agreed upon the remainder of true believers of God can unite on doctrines from the Bible.

The people of the day gave creedence to someone who said "I had a thus says the lord vision." Utter nonsense. The Bible is the only rule we have. We have all heard the far out nonsense from people who also claim "thus says the lord".

Ellen White is not needed to keep the doctrines already found in SDA. There are however errors within Adventism--that comes directly from Ellen White writings. The deadly error of "wondering after the beast" is found throughout. This is not the sea beast rather the earth beast.

"And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast." (Revelation 13:3)

"...and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world,(Revelation 17:8)


SGT

Ashburn, VA

#16 Apr 14, 2012


• Blowing the Trumpets

Tuned into the sermons by 3ABN host James Rafferty, online about the Seven Trumpets.

www.lightbearers.org/resources

Someone posted those here a while back. Anyway, he is a wicked deceiver. I believe he knows exatcly what he's doing deceiving the masses, not merely confused and in error. He guides the viewers back to EGW Bible commentary. While it is true that is what she wrote, as he presents in the video, what she wrote is also departure from truth.

The 7 seals, trumpets and vials run as follows:

From the time given 2000 years ago ..

1 seal

2 seal

3 seal

4 seal

5 seal

6 seal

7th seal - opens the 7 trumpets

1 trumpet

2 trumpet

3 trumpet

4 trumpet

5 trumpet

6 trumpet

7th trumpet - opens the 7 vials, Rev 11 beginning 1789 at the French Revolution.

However, the SDA BRI has James Rafferty present the 7 seals & trumpets running parallel from 2000 years ago until the second coming, with the vials just before the end (futurist spin), as he explains in the first three videos on the trumpets.

Also, the previous historicist view of seals followed by trumpets are God's judgment upon Rome's empire (East & West), while Rafferty has the seals & trumpets as judgment upon God's church; where the white horse is said to be the church soon after the cross, the red horse was a time of persecution, and the pale horse the middle ages, ect.

SDA turns historicism on its head, all to protect the NWO-earth beast, and to have us believe Rome has not seen God's wrath.

These two Youtube channels present the correct historicist view:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist...
http://archive.org/details/RevelationIllustra...

• The NWO Earth Beast & Seven Vials
www.geocities.ws/pitbeast


humblepie

Sydney, Australia

#17 Apr 14, 2012
SGT wrote:
• Blowing the Trumpets
Tuned into the sermons by 3ABN host James Rafferty, online about the Seven Trumpets.
www.lightbearers.org/resources
Someone posted those here a while back. Anyway, he is a wicked deceiver. I believe he knows exatcly what he's doing deceiving the masses, not merely confused and in error. He guides the viewers back to EGW Bible commentary. While it is true that is what she wrote, as he presents in the video, what she wrote is also departure from truth.
The 7 seals, trumpets and vials run as follows:
From the time given 2000 years ago ..
1 seal
2 seal
3 seal
4 seal
5 seal
6 seal
7th seal - opens the 7 trumpets
1 trumpet
2 trumpet
3 trumpet
4 trumpet
5 trumpet
6 trumpet
7th trumpet - opens the 7 vials, Rev 11 beginning 1789 at the French Revolution.
However, the SDA BRI has James Rafferty present the 7 seals & trumpets running parallel from 2000 years ago until the second coming, with the vials just before the end (futurist spin), as he explains in the first three videos on the trumpets.
Also, the previous historicist view of seals followed by trumpets are God's judgment upon Rome's empire (East & West), while Rafferty has the seals & trumpets as judgment upon God's church; where the white horse is said to be the church soon after the cross, the red horse was a time of persecution, and the pale horse the middle ages, ect.
SDA turns historicism on its head, all to protect the NWO-earth beast, and to have us believe Rome has not seen God's wrath.
These two Youtube channels present the correct historicist view:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist...
http://archive.org/details/RevelationIllustra...
• The NWO Earth Beast & Seven Vials
www.geocities.ws/pitbeast
Thanks Some terrific Videos There!
KoalaGums

Sydney, Australia

#18 Apr 15, 2012
humblepie

Sydney, Australia

#19 Apr 21, 2012
humblepie wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks Some terrific Videos There!
I meant the ones about Walter Veith the Others I didn't have a Chance to watch yet, I do believe that Walter Veith endorses EGW as a Prophet and I do as well

The Books of Hers I have Read So far don't conflict with Bible at all
Actually she seems to magnify parts of it.

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#20 Jun 9, 2012
SGT wrote:
Setting EGW aside.
Since there is no proof Ellen White is a prophet of God there is no grounds to uphold the "spirit of prophecy" attributed to the writings attributed to Ellen White.
EGW also did not found the current views or beliefs of SDA. Most of the wonderful Bible truths found in SDA came from various other Bible expounders. Then sometimes Ellen would say: "thus says the lord this is truth".
Thus there is no need for these extra-biblical writings be quoted as scripture or they be called a "spirit of prophecy". Further the deification of Ellen White be reduced to that of any other Bible commentator, subject to errors.
After this is agreed upon the remainder of true believers of God can unite on doctrines from the Bible.
The people of the day gave creedence to someone who said "I had a thus says the lord vision." Utter nonsense. The Bible is the only rule we have. We have all heard the far out nonsense from people who also claim "thus says the lord".
Ellen White is not needed to keep the doctrines already found in SDA. There are however errors within Adventism--that comes directly from Ellen White writings. The deadly error of "wondering after the beast" is found throughout. This is not the sea beast rather the earth beast.
"And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast." (Revelation 13:3)
"...and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world,(Revelation 17:8)
Ellen White was a true prophet of God. Period.

So nothing you say will persuade me otherwise.

The Lamb-Like Beast is the United States. Period.

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