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Tim
Sydney, Australia
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When we wake up from our slumber and read the Bible for ourselves the spell is broken and the yoke of spiritual bondage is broken in the light of the beauty of the true gospel. where the Ij and defiled sanctuaries and ellen white have no place. the seal of God is the Holy Spirit so how does this work... The seal of God will never be placed upon the forehead of an impure man or woman. It will never be placed upon the forehead of the ambitious, world-loving man or woman. It will never be placed upon the forehead of men or women of false tongues or deceitful hearts. All who receive the seal must be without spot before God,-{CET 191.2} And shake the dust off your feet and go
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DANNO
London, UK
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Tim wrote: When we wake up from our slumber and read the Bible for ourselves the spell is broken and the yoke of spiritual bondage is broken in the light of the beauty of the true gospel. where the Ij and defiled sanctuaries and ellen white have no place. the seal of God is the Holy Spirit so how does this work... The seal of God will never be placed upon the forehead of an impure man or woman. It will never be placed upon the forehead of the ambitious, world-loving man or woman. It will never be placed upon the forehead of men or women of false tongues or deceitful hearts. All who receive the seal must be without spot before God,-{CET 191.2} And shake the dust off your feet and go Hi Tim [Tony] What do you say to those that believe in SALVATION by Faith & Grace concerning your point on the SEAL of GOD? Can they still be saved without accepting the SEAL? MOST already REJECT or refuse to accept the Holy 4th Commandment in favour of FAITH & GRACE??? Dan
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Tim
Sydney, Australia
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DANNO wrote: <quoted text> Hi Tim [Tony] What do you say to those that believe in SALVATION by Faith & Grace concerning your point on the SEAL of GOD? Can they still be saved without accepting the SEAL? MOST already REJECT or refuse to accept the Holy 4th Commandment in favour of FAITH & GRACE??? Dan it is as follows I am under the law of faith and not the law of sin and death the ten commandments...for that which as an Adventist i thought would bring life was death in me.... Rom 3:27-28 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. now I am under the spirit of the the law which is a magnification of the all of gods new covenant commandments as Christ came to show by his life. Eph 1:12-14 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. KJV That is the Gospel I follow not the Gospel of ellen that is led by the Spirit of manufactured decption God Bless KJV
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Rockroller
Yucaipa, CA
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Tim wrote: <quoted text> it is as follows I am under the law of faith and not the law of sin and death the ten commandments...for that which as an Adventist i thought would bring life was death in me.... Rom 3:27-28 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. now I am under the spirit of the the law which is a magnification of the all of gods new covenant commandments as Christ came to show by his life. Eph 1:12-14 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. KJV That is the Gospel I follow not the Gospel of ellen that is led by the Spirit of manufactured decption God Bless KJV Hey Tony, good luck with that! Of course it's your choice, but just remember that Jesus NEVER taught that the covenant was done away with and that anyone could be saved by grace or become righteous by faith. Just so you have been warned and can't blame anyone but yourself.
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DANNO
London, UK
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Tim wrote: <quoted text> it is as follows I am under the law of faith and not the law of sin and death the ten commandments...for that which as an Adventist i thought would bring life was death in me.... Rom 3:27-28 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. now I am under the spirit of the the law which is a magnification of the all of gods new covenant commandments as Christ came to show by his life. Eph 1:12-14 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. KJV That is the Gospel I follow not the Gospel of ellen that is led by the Spirit of manufactured decption God Bless KJV Tony. You forgot to quote the following from the same writer>>> ROM 2: 13 & ROM 7: 12 Any comments? Dan
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Tim
Sydney, Australia
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DANNO wrote: <quoted text> Tony. You forgot to quote the following from the same writer>>> ROM 2: 13 & ROM 7: 12 Any comments? Dan When we realise that the bible does not devide the law up into portions it is either all or none we keep the spirit of the law written in our hearts and that includes the Fullfillment of all in Christ in every sense ...we actually through the spirit have magnified the law of faith in our body having died to the flesh and move in the spirit..If The Adventist officials had this they would stop decieving people about inspiration and false doctrine. the problem is the word ten commandments is read where it only staes commandments..that is deception Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. KJV
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Rockroller
Yucaipa, CA
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Tim wrote: <quoted text> When we realise that the bible does not devide the law up into portions it is either all or none we keep the spirit of the law written in our hearts and that includes the Fullfillment of all in Christ in every sense ...we actually through the spirit have magnified the law of faith in our body having died to the flesh and move in the spirit..If The Adventist officials had this they would stop decieving people about inspiration and false doctrine. the problem is the word ten commandments is read where it only staes commandments..that is deception Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. KJV Interestingly Jesus never said anything about the "ten commandments" because everyone at that time KNEW that the Law and the covenant was in fact the covenant--it being TEN COMMANDMENTS. For your information, one can't seperate your body from your spirit without the soul being dead. Therefore, there is NO SUCH thing as 'dying' to Christ. That is utterly impossible to do and you know it in your heart. Paul was a Gnostic and taught that the flesh was evil and the spirit good--which is a lie! God NEVER made the flesh evil, nor did He ever make the spirit righteous. Each human has a choice to be either righteous or evil. It's just that simple. Your choice to be evil by following the teaching of Paul rather than Jesus is a choice. Sure, it is a bad choice but it is a choice non-the-less.
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Tim
Sydney, Australia
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Rockroller wrote: <quoted text> Interestingly Jesus never said anything about the "ten commandments" because everyone at that time KNEW that the Law and the covenant was in fact the covenant--it being TEN COMMANDMENTS. For your information, one can't seperate your body from your spirit without the soul being dead. Therefore, there is NO SUCH thing as 'dying' to Christ. That is utterly impossible to do and you know it in your heart. Paul was a Gnostic and taught that the flesh was evil and the spirit good--which is a lie! God NEVER made the flesh evil, nor did He ever make the spirit righteous. Each human has a choice to be either righteous or evil. It's just that simple. Your choice to be evil by following the teaching of Paul rather than Jesus is a choice. Sure, it is a bad choice but it is a choice non-the-less. so when Christ said he came to fullfill the law did everyone think of thats the ten commandments? you need to take a break
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Since: Aug 10
Pacific Northwest USA
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Tim wrote: <quoted text> When we realise that the bible does not devide the law up into portions it is either all or none we keep the spirit of the law written in our hearts and that includes the Fullfillment of all in Christ in every sense ...we actually through the spirit have magnified the law of faith in our body having died to the flesh and move in the spirit..If The Adventist officials had this they would stop decieving people about inspiration and false doctrine. the problem is the word ten commandments is read where it only staes commandments..that is deception Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. KJV Amen, and thank you, Tim, for boldly testifying to the True Gospel!
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birdman
Mattoon, IL
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GrammyJoanne wrote: <quoted text>Amen, and thank you, Tim, for boldly testifying to the True Gospel! You agree with those who reject the Law,
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Rockroller
Yucaipa, CA
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Tim wrote: <quoted text> so when Christ said he came to fullfill the law did everyone think of thats the ten commandments? you need to take a break "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law OR THE PROPHETS, I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill." Yes, Jesus did keep all of the ten commandments AND He fulfilled the "Prophets" too! You left that out on purpose, didn't you Tony? Go read Matt. 5:17-19 and you will see truth. If you are attempting to annul just ONE of the commandments and teach others to do the same, are going to be judged by those words at the time of judgment. Just saying.....
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His4everFriend
Medford, OR
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Tim wrote: When we wake up from our slumber and read the Bible for ourselves the spell is broken and the yoke of spiritual bondage is broken in the light of the beauty of the true gospel. where the Ij and defiled sanctuaries and ellen white have no place. the seal of God is the Holy Spirit so how does this work...
The seal of God will never be placed upon the forehead of an impure man or woman. It will never be placed upon the forehead of the ambitious, world-loving man or woman. It will never be placed upon the forehead of men or women of false tongues or deceitful hearts. All who receive the seal must be without spot before God,-{CET 191.2} And shake the dust off your feet and go Dear Tim: ... do you really want to be in heaven with "men or women of false tongues or deceitful hearts." Do you really believe that the Bible teaches they will be there? When you read the Bible perhaps you need to read Romans ch. 6 (8
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Rockroller
Yucaipa, CA
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His4everFriend wrote: <quoted text> Dear Tim: ... do you really want to be in heaven with "men or women of false tongues or deceitful hearts." Do you really believe that the Bible teaches they will be there? When you read the Bible perhaps you need to read Romans ch. 6 (8 Wow, talk about one who had a false tongue and deceitful heart...Paul was the master at deception and he knew it. He even admitted that he would say one thing to a Jew and the opposite to a Gentile. He said he would 'become all things' just to trick people into believing his gosple of lies--the one of grace, love and faith. Jesus never taught or said anything about being saved by grace or becoming righteous by faith or that God loves everyone. In fact, Jesus taught the opposite. He said that God loves those who show their love to God by keeping the commandments and abiding in the word of Jesus, not the words of Paul. He also said and taught that NO ONE COULD EVER become saved by grace! He also said and taught that NO ONE COULD EVER become righteous by faith! After all, read His last warnings to everyone in Rev. 22:12! Also: Rev. 21:8 and 22;15. So, if you now believe and practice the lies that Paul taught about grace, faith and love, then you will be thrown into the lake of fire! Nope, grace will not save one who foolishly rejects the truth of the words of Jesus!
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Tim
Sydney, Australia
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Rockroller wrote: <quoted text>"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law OR THE PROPHETS, I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill." Yes, Jesus did keep all of the ten commandments AND He fulfilled the "Prophets" too! You left that out on purpose, didn't you Tony? Go read Matt. 5:17-19 and you will see truth. If you are attempting to annul just ONE of the commandments and teach others to do the same, are going to be judged by those words at the time of judgment. Just saying..... you have it wrong about the doing away bit ...I am not saying that we dont keep the law just the letter of the law is void when living under the spirit of the LAW OF FAITH. Plus you left out the fact that Christ fullfilled the levitical law and that is the key to understanding the two covenants. God bless
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Tim
Sydney, Australia
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His4everFriend wrote: <quoted text> Dear Tim: ... do you really want to be in heaven with "men or women of false tongues or deceitful hearts." Do you really believe that the Bible teaches they will be there? When you read the Bible perhaps you need to read Romans ch. 6 (8 if we are sealed with the Holy Spirit when we believe in our Lord are you saying that in the Gutter of filth and desperation if one cries out to be saved ....they cannot be sealed because they must first be unspotted and pure ... think it through Ellen Whites theology was pertaining to a day not the indwelling spirit of the God of the universe It is madness Ellen White was a sick pathetic creature
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yoyo
San Diego, CA
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Thread title is false advertisement
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Tim
Sydney, Australia
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yoyo wrote: Thread title is false advertisement have you actually read the annual report of the SDA general conference statistics by 2020 95% of adventist will of been in the church less then 5 years if the trends continue... nothing false
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christine
Los Angeles, CA
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Tim have you ever heard of the expression. Don't cast your pearls before the swine.?????? Who on this forum rejects of Gospel of Christ??? Who eber believes in the words of Jesus and the God that sent Him into the world will have everlasting life. Who rejects this verse on this forum?? Who on this forum says you have to keep the commandments of God to order to be saved? What church teaches the sencond coming instead of Jesus Crusified buried and risen on the 3r day? What Chruch teaches that they are the only ones acceptable to God because they alone keep the commandments of God and are accepted by that instead of the blood of Chirst??? Those are the swine...These are the ones spreading a false Gospel.the worst thing is they don't realize it. Their prophetess is the false prophetess of Revalation 2 verse 20...God took her 2 children. She lead her God's servants astray by a false gospel. EGW 2 children were taken by God. Adventist deny 1st John 5 verse 24. And replace that with A secondary aspect "If you love me keep my commandments" lThis is added as ones works to be saved not by faith or the blood of christ but by their own struggle. Do you see how EGW perverted the gospel...What pig is behind this false gospel???
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yoyo
San Diego, CA
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Tim wrote: <quoted text> have you actually read the annual report of the SDA general conference statistics by 2020 95% of adventist will of been in the church less then 5 years if the trends continue... nothing false No I haven't read it..that is not my point. The postings do not match the thread title. The postings are on sealing etc. I do not counter that there is an exodus of some sort in the SDA denomination.
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Since: Aug 10
Pacific Northwest USA
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Tim wrote: <quoted text> Plus you left out the fact that Christ fullfilled the levitical law and that is the key to understanding the two covenants. God bless So profoundly TRUE, Tim!!! Question: How is it that so many of us here, from diverse geographic locations, who have never met or had any discussions on these topics, after searching the scriptures (SOLELY!) have arrived at precisely the same facts in which to believe? Because it's THE TRUTH, that's how! No more SDA/EGW sunglasses or veil to hide the truth from our eyes and hearts!!!
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