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Apr 28, 2008

31 of 53 teen girls at FLDS ranch are pregnant or had baby

More than half the teenage girls taken from a polygamist compound in west Texas have children or are pregnant, state officials said Monday.

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Apr 29, 2008
 

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The men just keep them knocked up and barefeet!!

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The men just keep them knocked up and barefeet!!
It's more liken to sex slavery in the name of religion. Shame on a society that knows this and lets it operate under the name of religion. P;ease keep Jesus name out of the mix...
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I guess those old men really WERE screwing those kids.
That's a shame.
When will America wake up to the dangers of un-fettered religion and the damage it causes every day?
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Apr 30, 2008
 
Some folks will make up anything nasty and call it a religion so the government/authorities will leave you alone and let the nasty perverts get away with molesting children, and have the law on their side. Why is this???? Something needs to be done about this crap!!!
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Some folks will make up anything nasty and call it a religion so the government/authorities will leave you alone and let the nasty perverts get away with molesting children, and have the law on their side. Why is this???? Something needs to be done about this crap!!!
Or just maybe, religion fosters such tawdry actions in people.
After all- religion is simply a system created by men to subjugate women.
It's a small step from there to abusing women.
Show me a religion where the women rule the men and I'll eat dirt.
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May 12, 2008
 
I can't believe people get so upset about "puppy mills", plus the ones that run them are arrested for abusing animals, and this goes on with human children and they think it is ok.
Ironic isn't it?

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I wish people would get informed before they blindly follow what the news and law enforcement say.

First off...

The original raid was spared by a warrant. That warrant included the warrant for the arrest of a man.

That warrant has now been thrown out as the claim was a prank phone call.

Secondly. The original claim of 31 teens has been shown to be false. The state lied to save face.

The number is 3.

One of those is a 24 year old woman that has shown proof she is 24 through her lawyert and the state still refuses to let her go.

Another is a 26 year old woamn who has a 10 year old kid. In 2005 the law changed and the legal age of consent was made 17. Before 2005 the legal age was 16 and it was 14 with the signature of a parent. Throw in her "husband" is only 3 years older than her.....

The last girl is believed to be 17. She is about 6 months pregnant and will not say who the dad is.

So at the worst... we have one girl who was raped by an adult, MAYBE!

So... since 250,000 girls under the age of 17 het pregnant in the US each year... it is clear that these people with the strange religion are being persecuted as we do not seize those 250,000 girls.

Throw in that it has been 41 days and nobody has been charged with a crime.... and clearly this is looking like persecution and a violation of civil rights no matter how wacky the rest of us see these people's religious beliefs.
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May 12, 2008
 
Time and DNA will tell the whole story.
I am sure that all the evidence hasn't made the news.
Why did the men run and not take the DNA??
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May 13, 2008
 
Prove anyone ran.

In fact the original warrant was for Dale E. Barlow.

He came forward and has been cleared and the warrant cancelled.

http://www.sltrib.com/News/ci_9133640

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May 13, 2008
 
By the way Joy... It must be nice to just say "time and DNA will tell".

After all.. it isn't your loved ones that have been taken based on a prank phone call and bogus claim of abuse.

42 days... NOBODY CHARGED WITH A CRIME!!!
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May 13, 2008
 
I guess so if you got 50 yr old pervs on niagra and pawing all over them. What do you expect! The 50 year old perverts are in heat!!! Just like dogs!!!
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May 13, 2008
 
4liberty1st wrote:
By the way Joy... It must be nice to just say "time and DNA will tell".
After all.. it isn't your loved ones that have been taken based on a prank phone call and bogus claim of abuse.
42 days... NOBODY CHARGED WITH A CRIME!!!
No one has to be charged with a crime to lose custody of their children. I know you have led a sheltered life, so I hate to be the one to break the news to you.
I hope this turns into 42 years before they are able to see the children again.
Yes, if I were an unfit parent in Ohio my children would be taken from me also. So don't feel so special.
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May 13, 2008
 
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Prove anyone ran.
In fact the original warrant was for Dale E. Barlow.
He came forward and has been cleared and the warrant cancelled.
http://www.sltrib.com/News/ci_9133640
Where are your fearless leaders and men? Hiding like chickens. Afraid of the big bad wolf?
come on out and give the DNA and face it like a man.
LOL Man. They are anything but a man.

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May 14, 2008
 
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No one has to be charged with a crime to lose custody of their children.
So the burden of proof is with the citizen and not the state and that's fine with you?

Well it isn't fine with me. Absolute power corrupts absolutely and goiving government that much power is historically proven to be disasterous.
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<quoted text>I know you have led a sheltered life, so I hate to be the one to break the news to you.[/quote]

I'm sure your opinion of me matter greatly to one of us. But it isn't me.

[QUOTE who="joy"]<quoted text>I hope this turns into 42 years before they are able to see the children again.
Then you are a nazi.
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<quoted text>Yes, if I were an unfit parent in Ohio my children would be taken from me also. So don't feel so special.
I hope they are. You deserve a dose of your own medicine.

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Where are your fearless leaders and men? Hiding like chickens. Afraid of the big bad wolf?
come on out and give the DNA and face it like a man.
LOL Man. They are anything but a man.
The men have not fled anywhere.

Try to actually look at the facts and not just your hate driven bigotry.

PS: Do you gay bash too? Burn crosses in black people's yards? Or are these women the only people you focus your hatemongering at?
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Some folks will make up anything nasty and call it a religion so the government/authorities will leave you alone and let the nasty perverts get away with molesting children, and have the law on their side. Why is this???? Something needs to be done about this crap!!!
Religion is man made. GOD is heavenly. Know the difference pal!

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May 14, 2008
 
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<quoted text>Religion is man made. GOD is heavenly. Know the difference pal!
The most intelligent post I have seen today. Well said.
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May 14, 2008
 
4liberty1st wrote:
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The men have not fled anywhere.
Try to actually look at the facts and not just your hate driven bigotry.
PS: Do you gay bash too? Burn crosses in black people's yards? Or are these women the only people you focus your hatemongering at?
I hate child rapist.
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May 14, 2008
 
4liberty1st wrote:
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The men have not fled anywhere.
Try to actually look at the facts and not just your hate driven bigotry.
PS: Do you gay bash too? Burn crosses in black people's yards? Or are these women the only people you focus your hatemongering at?
Then why won't they all come in and submit their DNA?
What are they afraid of?
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May 14, 2008
 
LDS must be protecting those men. Not FLDS, LDS. LDS is a very powerful church, they are embarrassed by this and want it swept under the rug, and they are getting their way. The Texas authorities are caving, no men will ever be arrested, or maybe one or two as scapegoats.

If you want to see the real guilty parties, look to Salt Lake City. Brigham Young in Salt Lake was the one who came up with the idea of LDS polygamy, which is all the FLDS folks are, "old-time" LDS religionists, following Young's dictates.
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