An Observer

Oxnard, CA

#103 Aug 22, 2012
PaulWroteToMe wrote:
<quoted text>Observer~

I would think studying prepared material and answering a set number of questions that each person has to do to be eligible for baptism would be a tradition.

BTW, is that biblical???

Corinthian
Nope, it sure isn't and yes, studying for baptism, making sure you go sit in a building once a year is also tradition. What's worse is not to receive the body and blood of Christ because they're blinded by the watchtower folks.
dee lightful

Piedmont, SC

#104 Aug 22, 2012
man711 wrote:
<quoted text>Again as foolish as being clean shaven is, it is not rooted in pagan false religion and traditions like Christmas, the trinity, hellfire , etc,etc,etc.
It is rooted in the arrogance of men who say you must believe whatever they say comes from God or you will be bird food. That's worse than paganism for that says they lies in the name of God.
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LEV {19:12} You shall not commit perjury in my name, nor shall you pollute the name of your God. I am the Lord.
That is what the WT/GB does---it pollutes Gods' name with all their lies., even by insisting on the wrong name.
UNchained

Maryville, TN

#105 Aug 22, 2012
Well MR JW PR rep, why didn't the producers of the New World Translation stick to the Kingdom Interlinear's rendering of John 14:14?
Aneirin wrote:
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Because John 14:14 is DISPUTED TEXT because there is more than one version of it in the original language manuscripts.
The NWT committee simply went with the version that does not contradict other scriptures. If you hold the Bible to be the word of God then so would you:
Is Jesus wrong?
*** John 16:23 "In that day you will ask me no questions. Truly I tell you, whatever you may ask of the Father in my name, he will give it to you.
The NWT committee contradicted other scriptures with that apostate Bible they produced which JW's willingly distribute.
man711

United States

#106 Aug 23, 2012
RedhorseWoman wrote:
<quoted text>
Pagan traditions allowed for JWs like bridesmaids, wedding flowers, bridal veils, luaus, and pinatas? All based on spiritism and pagan worship, but acceptable for JWs?
Again, what don't you people understand are these things integreted into their worship? NO! Compare apples to apples is that understandable?
man711

United States

#107 Aug 23, 2012
dee lightful wrote:
<quoted text> It is rooted in the arrogance of men who say you must believe whatever they say comes from God or you will be bird food. That's worse than paganism for that says they lies in the name of God.
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LEV {19:12} You shall not commit perjury in my name, nor shall you pollute the name of your God. I am the Lord.
That is what the WT/GB does---it pollutes Gods' name with all their lies., even by insisting on the wrong name.
I would say most religions do way worse in polluting God's name with their false beliefs rooted in pagan worship and attributing it to God.

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#108 Aug 23, 2012
man711 wrote:
<quoted text>No, when someone adresses a thought and says you. I take it as me personally. Most people would,.
Unless the person put in brackets that it means JW's, most people would understand it as meaning (JW's).

Since: Nov 09

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#109 Aug 23, 2012
PaulWroteToMe wrote:
<quoted text>
Karen~
OH MY GOD!!! This is so disturbing. OMG.
I'm really disturbed by how the JW's went from teaching that you don't have to be a part of a sect or organization or denomination to be baptized in the names of the Father/Son/Holy Spirit.....to teaching that people who NOW want to be baptized have to declare to an organization (excuse me, to declare to be associated with an organization).
This ranks right up there with the most shocking WT articles I've seen.
It makes me very worried for my beloved family members in this religion.:(
Corinthian
Yes it is very disturbing, and you should worry about your family that is still inside this religion.
Take all these things down and show them, many of them really don't understand what is happening unless someone points it out to them. Hopefully when or if you do, they will see how much this realize has changed over the years.

Since: Nov 09

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#110 Aug 23, 2012
man711 wrote:
<quoted text>
I would say most religions do way worse in polluting God's name with their false beliefs rooted in pagan worship and attributing it to God.
The trinity, hellfire, Christmas, Easter, believing in all these things will not save you, only the belief in Jesus Christ will save you.

This scripture does not say, you must confess that Jesus is a trinty to be saved..

Romans 10:9
That if you confess with your mouth,“Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
man711

United States

#111 Aug 23, 2012
The Real Karen wrote:
<quoted text>
Unless the person put in brackets that it means JW's, most people would understand it as meaning (JW's).
I missed it , sue me.
man711

United States

#112 Aug 23, 2012
The Real Karen wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes it is very disturbing, and you should worry about your family that is still inside this religion.
Take all these things down and show them, many of them really don't understand what is happening unless someone points it out to them. Hopefully when or if you do, they will see how much this realize has changed over the years.
Everyone should really worry about false doctrines and practises that offend God first.

Since: Nov 09

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#113 Aug 23, 2012
man711 wrote:
<quoted text> I missed it , sue me.
You didn't miss it.

Since: Nov 09

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#114 Aug 23, 2012
man711 wrote:
<quoted text> Everyone should really worry about false doctrines and practises that offend God first.
First they have to be PROVEN false TPMP, you cant do that as no one else can either. We will not know the truth about some of these things until Jehovah and Jesus are ready for us to know them. Just because some men say they are false, does not mean they are. Find the truth out for yourself about them, don't leave it up to men to tell you whether they are true or not.
man711

United States

#115 Aug 23, 2012
The Real Karen wrote:
<quoted text>
You didn't miss it.
So you are calling me liar? And you wonder wht I make comments after that such as what a Christian attitude.
man711

United States

#116 Aug 23, 2012
The Real Karen wrote:
<quoted text>
First they have to be PROVEN false TPMP, you cant do that as no one else can either. We will not know the truth about some of these things until Jehovah and Jesus are ready for us to know them. Just because some men say they are false, does not mean they are. Find the truth out for yourself about them, don't leave it up to men to tell you whether they are true or not.
Where you writing to me? You confused my screen name if you were.
man711

United States

#117 Aug 23, 2012
The Real Karen wrote:
<quoted text>
The trinity, hellfire, Christmas, Easter, believing in all these things will not save you, only the belief in Jesus Christ will save you.
This scripture does not say, you must confess that Jesus is a trinty to be saved..
Romans 10:9
That if you confess with your mouth,“Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
But if you believe in such false pagan inspired ideas and attribute them to"divine origin" you offend God just the same as when the Isrealites worshipped Baal. I'm personally absolute baffled that people can't get this simple point

Since: Nov 09

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#118 Aug 23, 2012
man711 wrote:
<quoted text> So you are calling me liar? And you wonder wht I make comments after that such as what a Christian attitude.
All I said is, you didn't miss it.:)

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#119 Aug 23, 2012
man711 wrote:
<quoted text>Where you writing to me? You confused my screen name if you were.
It may be man711 now, but it was Tpmp BEFORE. Why did you start out disliking me from the get go? If you are new, you had no idea what I believed, or anything else about me, yet you seem to know me pretty well. Just admit it, its better to be upfront about things.

Since: Nov 09

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#120 Aug 23, 2012
man711 wrote:
<quoted text>But if you believe in such false pagan inspired ideas and attribute them to"divine origin" you offend God just the same as when the Isrealites worshipped Baal. I'm personally absolute baffled that people can't get this simple point
OOPS you proved to me that you are TPMP with the spelling of Isrealites. ;)

I am personally baffled when people cant get that NOT ONE OF US know everything about God, or Jesus, or the trinity, or hellfire, or celebrating holidays. We are human, we make mistakes in our lives. Jehovah and Jesus know this, but they are going to judge us on how we lived our lives to them, not how we looked at things that we didn't understand. They are going to judge us by our hearts and how we loved people around us, on how we obeyed them. show me a scripture that tells me that hell fire is not real. Show me a scripture that says do not celebrate holidays. If Jesus had not meant for us to do those things I think he would have made it clear. This is something that your GB aka F&DS has made clear to 7 million JW's. You dont follow teachings of men, you follow teachings of the bible.
man711

United States

#121 Aug 23, 2012
The Real Karen wrote:
<quoted text>
It may be man711 now, but it was Tpmp BEFORE. Why did you start out disliking me from the get go? If you are new, you had no idea what I believed, or anything else about me, yet you seem to know me pretty well. Just admit it, its better to be upfront about things.
With both comments you have proved yourself to promote lies. I am no one but man711 never have posted here as anything else."If you are new, you had no idea what I believed," I read what you posted. I know nothing else about you."Why did you start out disliking me from the get go?" I didn't dislike you from the get go, I disagreed with your beliefs, nothing else. After YOU started attacking me personally I began to see you for what you are.

Since: Nov 09

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#122 Aug 23, 2012
man711 wrote:
<quoted text> With both comments you have proved yourself to promote lies. I am no one but man711 never have posted here as anything else."If you are new, you had no idea what I believed," I read what you posted. I know nothing else about you."Why did you start out disliking me from the get go?" I didn't dislike you from the get go, I disagreed with your beliefs, nothing else. After YOU started attacking me personally I began to see you for what you are.
Please show me where I have attacked you? I have only called you who you are, TPMP.

What exactly am I TPMP? And this is exactly what you have said to me before.

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